Re: [users] Re: Where's lame

2001-05-11 Thread Viral
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 11:00:01AM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote: > What about setting up a non-patent debian archive somewhere were the patent > don't apply. India could be a likely candidate, i think, but then maybe they > only don't like patent on medicine or such ? I'm in India. I'm not sure about

Re: [users] Re: Where's lame

2001-05-11 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 12:33:19AM +0200, Robert Bihlmeyer wrote: > Paul Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > The RSA patent was only valid in the USA, an oversight on RSA's part. > > That's the difference. > > But surely a sizable chunk the Debian usersbase lives in the US, there > were offi

Re: [users] Re: Where's lame

2001-05-11 Thread Viral
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 11:00:01AM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote: > What about setting up a non-patent debian archive somewhere were the patent > don't apply. India could be a likely candidate, i think, but then maybe they > only don't like patent on medicine or such ? I'm in India. I'm not sure abou

Re: [users] Re: Where's lame

2001-05-11 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 12:33:19AM +0200, Robert Bihlmeyer wrote: > Paul Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > The RSA patent was only valid in the USA, an oversight on RSA's part. > > That's the difference. > > But surely a sizable chunk the Debian usersbase lives in the US, there > were off

Re: [users] Re: Where's lame

2001-05-10 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Eric" == Eric Van Buggenhaut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Eric> : "it can't be included in debian, since it can't be legally Eric> redistributed in binary form." Eric> First part of the sentence might be correct, but not for *that* reason. Any package that cannot be distributed in t

Re: [users] Re: Where's lame

2001-05-10 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Eric" == Eric Van Buggenhaut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Eric> : "it can't be included in debian, since it can't be legally Eric> redistributed in binary form." Eric> First part of the sentence might be correct, but not for *that* reason. Any package that cannot be distributed in

Re: [users] Re: Where's lame

2001-05-10 Thread Eric Van Buggenhaut
On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 08:43:46AM -0500, Christian T. Steigies wrote: [...] > > > It can be debianised, but it can't be included in debian, since it can't > > > be legally redistributed in binary form. > > > > What do you mean ?? There are lots of packages included in debian in source > > for

Re: [users] Re: Where's lame

2001-05-10 Thread Eric Van Buggenhaut
On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 08:43:46AM -0500, Christian T. Steigies wrote: [...] > > > It can be debianised, but it can't be included in debian, since it can't > > > be legally redistributed in binary form. > > > > What do you mean ?? There are lots of packages included in debian in source > > fo

Re: [users] Re: Where's lame

2001-05-09 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Paul Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The RSA patent was only valid in the USA, an oversight on RSA's part. > That's the difference. But surely a sizable chunk the Debian usersbase lives in the US, there were official CDs sold in the US containing the software, etc. So the difference is only

Re: [users] Re: Where's lame

2001-05-09 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Paul Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The RSA patent was only valid in the USA, an oversight on RSA's part. > That's the difference. But surely a sizable chunk the Debian usersbase lives in the US, there were official CDs sold in the US containing the software, etc. So the difference is only

Re: [users] Re: Where's lame

2001-05-09 Thread Adam McKenna
On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 08:19:50PM +0100, Paul Martin wrote: > On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 08:09:51PM +0200, Robert Bihlmeyer wrote: > > > OTOH, isn't a license just required for *using* software that falls > > under the patent -- in contrast to just distributing it? How is > > distributing lame diffe

Re: [users] Re: Where's lame

2001-05-09 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 08:09:51PM +0200, Robert Bihlmeyer wrote: > Eric Van Buggenhaut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 09:53:44PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > > It can be debianised, but it can't be included in debian, since it can't > > > be legally redistributed

Re: [users] Re: Where's lame

2001-05-09 Thread Paul Martin
On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 08:09:51PM +0200, Robert Bihlmeyer wrote: > OTOH, isn't a license just required for *using* software that falls > under the patent -- in contrast to just distributing it? How is > distributing lame different from distributing implementations of RSA > one year ago? We did th

Re: [users] Re: Where's lame

2001-05-09 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Eric Van Buggenhaut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 09:53:44PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > It can be debianised, but it can't be included in debian, since it can't > > be legally redistributed in binary form. > > What do you mean ?? There are lots of packages includ

Re: [users] Re: Where's lame

2001-05-09 Thread Adam McKenna
On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 08:19:50PM +0100, Paul Martin wrote: > On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 08:09:51PM +0200, Robert Bihlmeyer wrote: > > > OTOH, isn't a license just required for *using* software that falls > > under the patent -- in contrast to just distributing it? How is > > distributing lame diff

Re: [users] Re: Where's lame

2001-05-09 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 08:09:51PM +0200, Robert Bihlmeyer wrote: > Eric Van Buggenhaut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 09:53:44PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > > It can be debianised, but it can't be included in debian, since it can't > > > be legally redistributed

Re: [users] Re: Where's lame

2001-05-09 Thread Paul Martin
On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 08:09:51PM +0200, Robert Bihlmeyer wrote: > OTOH, isn't a license just required for *using* software that falls > under the patent -- in contrast to just distributing it? How is > distributing lame different from distributing implementations of RSA > one year ago? We did t

Re: [users] Re: Where's lame

2001-05-09 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Eric Van Buggenhaut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 09:53:44PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > It can be debianised, but it can't be included in debian, since it can't > > be legally redistributed in binary form. > > What do you mean ?? There are lots of packages inclu

Re: [users] Re: Where's lame

2001-05-09 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 02:05:29AM +0200, Eric Van Buggenhaut wrote: > On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 09:53:44PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 03:19:21PM -0400, MaD dUCK wrote: > > > hi developers, > > > this is my first message, i hope it's appropriate. there's talk going > >

Re: [users] Re: Where's lame

2001-05-09 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 02:05:29AM +0200, Eric Van Buggenhaut wrote: > On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 09:53:44PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 03:19:21PM -0400, MaD dUCK wrote: > > > hi developers, > > > this is my first message, i hope it's appropriate. there's talk going > >

Re: [users] Re: Where's lame

2001-05-08 Thread Eric Van Buggenhaut
On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 09:53:44PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 03:19:21PM -0400, MaD dUCK wrote: > > hi developers, > > this is my first message, i hope it's appropriate. there's talk going > > on on the users mailing list about lame and its absence from the > > package

Re: [users] Re: Where's lame

2001-05-08 Thread Eric Van Buggenhaut
On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 09:53:44PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 03:19:21PM -0400, MaD dUCK wrote: > > hi developers, > > this is my first message, i hope it's appropriate. there's talk going > > on on the users mailing list about lame and its absence from the > > package

Re: [users] Re: Where's lame

2001-05-08 Thread Robert Woodcock
On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 05:49:06PM +1200, Michael Beattie wrote: > On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 09:53:44PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > It can be debianised, but it can't be included in debian, since it can't > > be legally redistributed in binary form. Which is why URL's to it aren't supposed to

Re: [users] Re: Where's lame

2001-05-08 Thread Robert Woodcock
On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 05:49:06PM +1200, Michael Beattie wrote: > On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 09:53:44PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > It can be debianised, but it can't be included in debian, since it can't > > be legally redistributed in binary form. Which is why URL's to it aren't supposed t

Re: [users] Re: Where's lame

2001-05-08 Thread Viral
> > It can be debianised, but it can't be included in debian, since it can't > > be legally redistributed in binary form. The lame tar.gz includes a debian/ directory. So its only a # dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot away. > deb http://lly.org/~rcw/private/lamer/ ./ This I didn't know of. > I

Re: [users] Re: Where's lame

2001-05-08 Thread Viral
> > It can be debianised, but it can't be included in debian, since it can't > > be legally redistributed in binary form. The lame tar.gz includes a debian/ directory. So its only a # dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot away. > deb http://lly.org/~rcw/private/lamer/ ./ This I didn't know of. > I

Re: [users] Re: Where's lame

2001-05-08 Thread Michael Beattie
On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 09:53:44PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > It can be debianised, but it can't be included in debian, since it can't > be legally redistributed in binary form. deb http://lly.org/~rcw/private/lamer/ ./ I believe rcw still maintains this, I have it commented out, since I do

Re: [users] Re: Where's lame

2001-05-07 Thread Michael Beattie
On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 09:53:44PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > It can be debianised, but it can't be included in debian, since it can't > be legally redistributed in binary form. deb http://lly.org/~rcw/private/lamer/ ./ I believe rcw still maintains this, I have it commented out, since I d

Re: [users] Re: Where's lame

2001-05-07 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 03:19:21PM -0400, MaD dUCK wrote: > hi developers, > this is my first message, i hope it's appropriate. there's talk going > on on the users mailing list about lame and its absence from the > package tree. i would like to adopt the lame mp3 encoder as a debian > package and

Re: [users] Re: Where's lame

2001-05-07 Thread MaD dUCK
hi developers, this is my first message, i hope it's appropriate. there's talk going on on the users mailing list about lame and its absence from the package tree. i would like to adopt the lame mp3 encoder as a debian package and was wondering if there are any objections? is there already a mainta

Re: [users] Re: Where's lame

2001-05-07 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 03:19:21PM -0400, MaD dUCK wrote: > hi developers, > this is my first message, i hope it's appropriate. there's talk going > on on the users mailing list about lame and its absence from the > package tree. i would like to adopt the lame mp3 encoder as a debian > package and

Re: [users] Re: Where's lame

2001-05-07 Thread MaD dUCK
hi developers, this is my first message, i hope it's appropriate. there's talk going on on the users mailing list about lame and its absence from the package tree. i would like to adopt the lame mp3 encoder as a debian package and was wondering if there are any objections? is there already a maint