Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-20 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Now, does the autobuilder get moved to another machine, or do I just put on my scary face when adding people to the authorised uploaders list? grin If you are using i386: umlbuilder That way you need an uml exploit and a root exploit to use the uml exploit.

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-20 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Now, does the autobuilder get moved to another machine, or do I just put on my scary face when adding people to the authorised uploaders list? grin If you are using i386: umlbuilder That way you need an uml exploit and a root exploit to use the uml exploit.

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-19 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 10:08:34AM +, Thomas Viehmann wrote: Matthew Palmer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: 2) Download tracking, both by count and yes I'll upload this via web browser. I'm still up in the air about whether there will be apt-getable resources, or whether pre-built binary debs

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-19 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Matthew Palmer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: 4) Automatically removing packages once they've been uploaded seems to be a general winner. Couldn't you just reference packages.d.o (or a local Packages/Sources file)? Sorry, I don't understand this. Are you suggesting that I scan an updated Packages

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-19 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 06:42:42PM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote: On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 10:08:34AM +, Thomas Viehmann wrote: Maybe you could also reuse / build upon rene from the dak suite. (Maybe it's not That's the problem with the FTP masters naming everything after women - nobody

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-19 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 08:23:05AM +, Thomas Viehmann wrote: It'll probably be more timely and less bandwidth intensive to track -changes... Well, I mostly have Packages/Sources for unstable available. In my book, I prefer parsing those over automatically processing email. Also, it doesn't

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-19 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 09:39:31AM +, Colin Watson wrote: On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 06:42:42PM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote: On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 10:08:34AM +, Thomas Viehmann wrote: Maybe you could also reuse / build upon rene from the dak suite. (Maybe it's not That's the

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-19 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 11:21:11PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: Matthew Palmer wrote: So, comments, brickbats, acclaim, whatever. Throw it at me. Well I don't think that this system as described would be of any use to me. I want to maintain a

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-19 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 08:23:05AM +, Thomas Viehmann wrote: It'll probably be more timely and less bandwidth intensive to track -changes... Well, I mostly have Packages/Sources for unstable available. In my book, I prefer parsing those over

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-19 Thread Joey Hess
Matthew Palmer wrote: package I sponsor. I want to know if they are not able to send me a package that will build properly. I want to work with them and be Since you only get packages for sponsorship which have built in a clean sid chroot out of my system, you can be fairly sure of that.

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-19 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 01:05:08PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: Matthew Palmer wrote: package I sponsor. I want to know if they are not able to send me a package that will build properly. I want to work with them and be Since you only get packages for sponsorship which have built in a clean

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-19 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 01:05:08PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: Matthew Palmer wrote: package I sponsor. I want to know if they are not able to send me a package that will build properly. I want to work with them and be Since you only get

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-19 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 11:21:11PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: Matthew Palmer wrote: So, comments, brickbats, acclaim, whatever. Throw it at me. Well I don't think that this system as described would be of any use to me. I want to maintain a close relationship with the people whose A worthy

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-19 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 10:08:34AM +, Thomas Viehmann wrote: Matthew Palmer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: 2) Download tracking, both by count and yes I'll upload this via web browser. I'm still up in the air about whether there will be apt-getable resources, or whether pre-built binary debs

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-19 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Matthew Palmer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: 4) Automatically removing packages once they've been uploaded seems to be a general winner. Couldn't you just reference packages.d.o (or a local Packages/Sources file)? Sorry, I don't understand this. Are you suggesting that I scan an updated Packages

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-19 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 06:42:42PM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote: On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 10:08:34AM +, Thomas Viehmann wrote: Maybe you could also reuse / build upon rene from the dak suite. (Maybe it's not That's the problem with the FTP masters naming everything after women - nobody

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-19 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 08:23:05AM +, Thomas Viehmann wrote: It'll probably be more timely and less bandwidth intensive to track -changes... Well, I mostly have Packages/Sources for unstable available. In my book, I prefer parsing those over automatically processing email. Also, it

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-19 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 09:39:31AM +, Colin Watson wrote: On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 06:42:42PM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote: On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 10:08:34AM +, Thomas Viehmann wrote: Maybe you could also reuse / build upon rene from the dak suite. (Maybe it's not That's the

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-19 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 08:23:05AM +, Thomas Viehmann wrote: It'll probably be more timely and less bandwidth intensive to track -changes... Well, I mostly have Packages/Sources for unstable available. In my book, I prefer parsing those

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-19 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 11:21:11PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: Matthew Palmer wrote: So, comments, brickbats, acclaim, whatever. Throw it at me. Well I don't think that this system as described would be of any use to me. I want to maintain a

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-19 Thread Joey Hess
Matthew Palmer wrote: package I sponsor. I want to know if they are not able to send me a package that will build properly. I want to work with them and be Since you only get packages for sponsorship which have built in a clean sid chroot out of my system, you can be fairly sure of that.

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-19 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 01:05:08PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: Matthew Palmer wrote: package I sponsor. I want to know if they are not able to send me a package that will build properly. I want to work with them and be Since you only get packages for sponsorship which have built in a clean

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-19 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 01:05:08PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: Matthew Palmer wrote: package I sponsor. I want to know if they are not able to send me a package that will build properly. I want to work with them and be Since you only get

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-18 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
On Tuesday 17 February 2004 19.52, Thomas Viehmann wrote: Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Having a new-maintainer keyring, to which keys could get added by any AM after it has been verified, and checking the signature on the dsc files against it sounds good to. And the keyring would be usefull

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-18 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: There are many people who got a signature by a DD's key who are not applying for DDship, probably never will, and who probably should not be able to upload to your queue. Getting a signature is just a confirmation of identity, after

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-18 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 08:45:00AM -0700, Jamin W. Collins wrote: The final question I'd like feedback on is this: how many sponsors would consider pointing their sponsees to this service, rather than whatever methods you're using now? The benefits are that other sponsors might

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-18 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 10:22:22AM +0100, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder wrote: On Tuesday 17 February 2004 19.52, Thomas Viehmann wrote: Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Having a new-maintainer keyring, to which keys could get added by any AM after it has been verified, and checking the

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-18 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Hi. Matthew Palmer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: 2) Download tracking, both by count and yes I'll upload this via web browser. I'm still up in the air about whether there will be apt-getable resources, or whether pre-built binary debs will be accessable. I don't particularly want to be a general

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-18 Thread Joey Hess
Matthew Palmer wrote: So, comments, brickbats, acclaim, whatever. Throw it at me. Well I don't think that this system as described would be of any use to me. I want to maintain a close relationship with the people whose package I sponsor. I want to know if they are not able to send me a package

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-18 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 11:21:11PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: Matthew Palmer wrote: So, comments, brickbats, acclaim, whatever. Throw it at me. Well I don't think that this system as described would be of any use to me. I want to maintain a close relationship with the people whose A worthy

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-18 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
On Tuesday 17 February 2004 19.52, Thomas Viehmann wrote: Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Having a new-maintainer keyring, to which keys could get added by any AM after it has been verified, and checking the signature on the dsc files against it sounds good to. And the keyring would be usefull

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-18 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: There are many people who got a signature by a DD's key who are not applying for DDship, probably never will, and who probably should not be able to upload to your queue. Getting a signature is just a confirmation of identity, after

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-18 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 08:45:00AM -0700, Jamin W. Collins wrote: The final question I'd like feedback on is this: how many sponsors would consider pointing their sponsees to this service, rather than whatever methods you're using now? The benefits are that other sponsors might

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-18 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 10:22:22AM +0100, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder wrote: On Tuesday 17 February 2004 19.52, Thomas Viehmann wrote: Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Having a new-maintainer keyring, to which keys could get added by any AM after it has been verified, and checking

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-18 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Hi. Matthew Palmer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: 2) Download tracking, both by count and yes I'll upload this via web browser. I'm still up in the air about whether there will be apt-getable resources, or whether pre-built binary debs will be accessable. I don't particularly want to be a general

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-18 Thread Joey Hess
Matthew Palmer wrote: So, comments, brickbats, acclaim, whatever. Throw it at me. Well I don't think that this system as described would be of any use to me. I want to maintain a close relationship with the people whose package I sponsor. I want to know if they are not able to send me a package

Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-17 Thread Matthew Palmer
Prompted by a comment made by one of my potential sponsees, I've been reworking my semi-automated sponsorship queue from a helps me thing to a could help lots of people thing. The comment was along the lines of wouldn't it be cool if we could remove the SPOF of sponsors, and have a group of

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-17 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 11:57:55PM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote: The final question I'd like feedback on is this: how many sponsors would consider pointing their sponsees to this service, rather than whatever methods you're using now? The benefits are that other sponsors might occasionally

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Prompted by a comment made by one of my potential sponsees, I've been reworking my semi-automated sponsorship queue from a helps me thing to a could help lots of people thing. The comment was along the lines of wouldn't it be cool if we could remove

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-17 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Having a new-maintainer keyring, to which keys could get added by any AM after it has been verified, and checking the signature on the dsc files against it sounds good to. And the keyring would be usefull for other purposes too. Why not just check if the key is

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Thomas Viehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Having a new-maintainer keyring, to which keys could get added by any AM after it has been verified, and checking the signature on the dsc files against it sounds good to. And the keyring would be usefull for other

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-17 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Thomas Viehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Having a new-maintainer keyring, to which keys could get added by any AM after it has been verified, and checking the signature on the dsc files against it sounds good to. And the keyring would

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-17 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 07:11:08PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Prompted by a comment made by one of my potential sponsees, I've been reworking my semi-automated sponsorship queue from a helps me thing to a could help lots of people thing. The comment was along the lines of wouldn't

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Thomas Viehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Thomas Viehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Having a new-maintainer keyring, to which keys could get added by any AM after it has been verified, and checking the signature on the dsc

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 07:11:08PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Prompted by a comment made by one of my potential sponsees, I've been reworking my semi-automated sponsorship queue from a helps me thing to a could help lots of people thing.

Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-17 Thread Matthew Palmer
Prompted by a comment made by one of my potential sponsees, I've been reworking my semi-automated sponsorship queue from a helps me thing to a could help lots of people thing. The comment was along the lines of wouldn't it be cool if we could remove the SPOF of sponsors, and have a group of

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-17 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 11:57:55PM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote: The final question I'd like feedback on is this: how many sponsors would consider pointing their sponsees to this service, rather than whatever methods you're using now? The benefits are that other sponsors might occasionally

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Prompted by a comment made by one of my potential sponsees, I've been reworking my semi-automated sponsorship queue from a helps me thing to a could help lots of people thing. The comment was along the lines of wouldn't it be cool if we could remove

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-17 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Having a new-maintainer keyring, to which keys could get added by any AM after it has been verified, and checking the signature on the dsc files against it sounds good to. And the keyring would be usefull for other purposes too. Why not just check if the key is

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Thomas Viehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Having a new-maintainer keyring, to which keys could get added by any AM after it has been verified, and checking the signature on the dsc files against it sounds good to. And the keyring would be usefull for other

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-17 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Thomas Viehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Having a new-maintainer keyring, to which keys could get added by any AM after it has been verified, and checking the signature on the dsc files against it sounds good to. And the keyring would

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-17 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 07:11:08PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Prompted by a comment made by one of my potential sponsees, I've been reworking my semi-automated sponsorship queue from a helps me thing to a could help lots of people thing. The comment was along the lines of wouldn't

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Thomas Viehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Thomas Viehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Having a new-maintainer keyring, to which keys could get added by any AM after it has been verified, and checking the signature on the dsc

Re: Multi-person sponsorship

2004-02-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 07:11:08PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Prompted by a comment made by one of my potential sponsees, I've been reworking my semi-automated sponsorship queue from a helps me thing to a could help lots of people thing.