Re: git-buildpackage and tarballs

2011-10-23 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 10:34:09PM -0700, Russ Allbery a écrit : I see those two issues as linked because of how version numbering works, which is the key difference in using the native format. With a native package, you only have a single version number, not a version with a Debian

Re: git-buildpackage and tarballs

2011-10-23 Thread Russ Allbery
Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org writes: I think that I am missing documentation on that topic. Yes, I seem to recall there's an open Policy bug for the fact that native and non-native packages aren't particularly well-documented. The Policy §3.2 mentions ‘remember that hyphen (-) cannot be

Re: git-buildpackage and tarballs

2011-10-22 Thread Arno Töll
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Charles, On 22.10.2011 03:36, Charles Plessy wrote: if as an upstream author you are not using tarballs, you can use the format ‘3.0 (native)’. It will make a source package where everything is included in a single tarball. that's not

Re: git-buildpackage and tarballs

2011-10-22 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 12:46:12PM +0200, Arno Töll a écrit : On 22.10.2011 03:36, Charles Plessy wrote: if as an upstream author you are not using tarballs, you can use the format ‘3.0 (native)’. It will make a source package where everything is included in a single tarball.

Re: git-buildpackage and tarballs

2011-10-22 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org, 2011-10-22, 20:09: if as an upstream author you are not using tarballs, you can use the format ‘3.0 (native)’. It will make a source package where everything is included in a single tarball. that's not quite what native packages are for. Native packages

Re: git-buildpackage and tarballs

2011-10-22 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 01:29:57PM +0200, Jakub Wilk a écrit : Just because some developers choose to abuse native source format, doesn't mean it's something that should be advocated to newcomers. So please stop. Thanks. Apart from the point I raised about translations (for which I never

Re: git-buildpackage and tarballs

2011-10-22 Thread Antonio Ospite
On Sat, 22 Oct 2011 20:41:34 +0900 Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org wrote: Le Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 01:29:57PM +0200, Jakub Wilk a écrit : Just because some developers choose to abuse native source format, doesn't mean it's something that should be advocated to newcomers. So please stop.

Re: git-buildpackage and tarballs

2011-10-22 Thread Arno Töll
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Antonio, On 22.10.2011 15:27, Antonio Ospite wrote: In a native package every changes you make to the debian packaging metadata translates into a new upstream release, and this is not nice if you think to other distributions too. Am I

Re: git-buildpackage and tarballs

2011-10-22 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 03:27:39PM +0200, Antonio Ospite a écrit : I am a newbie about debian development, but I think that you generally want to have the possibility to make multiple iteration for the package metadata for the _same_ upstream release. In a native package every changes you

Re: git-buildpackage and tarballs

2011-10-22 Thread Russ Allbery
Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org writes: This is excactly why I am limiting my recommendation to the case where there is no upstream release as tarball. In that sense, a new source package is still a downstream event that is not indicative of an upstream release. I am not sure that it is a

Re: git-buildpackage and tarballs

2011-10-22 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 07:08:45PM -0700, Russ Allbery a écrit : The same issue as with a tarball applies, though: unless the intention is to tag a new upstream release every single time a new version of the Debian package is uploaded (or unless the upstream doesn't even tag releases, but I

Re: git-buildpackage and tarballs

2011-10-22 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 10/22/2011 07:41 PM, Charles Plessy wrote: Le Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 01:29:57PM +0200, Jakub Wilk a écrit : Just because some developers choose to abuse native source format, doesn't mean it's something that should be advocated to newcomers. So please stop. Thanks. Apart from the

Re: git-buildpackage and tarballs

2011-10-22 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 10/23/2011 11:37 AM, Charles Plessy wrote: Hi Russ, I think that we are discussing two separate questions: whether a maintainer of his own software in Debian should release a new upstream version when updating the Debian package If the change in the software isn't located in the packaging,

Re: git-buildpackage and tarballs

2011-10-22 Thread Russ Allbery
Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org writes: I think that we are discussing two separate questions: whether a maintainer of his own software in Debian should release a new upstream version when updating the Debian package, and whether the the maintainer of a Debian package for which there is no

git-buildpackage and tarballs

2011-10-21 Thread Matt Zagrabelny
Hi, For those of you using git-buildpackage (gbp), I have a question I hope you can answer. I've got a source tree for which I am the upstream author, it is under version control using git. It seems like it should be possible to use gbp to build the package without having an actual tar ball.

Re: git-buildpackage and tarballs

2011-10-21 Thread David Paleino
On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 16:53:31 -0500, Matt Zagrabelny wrote: Hi, Hello Matt, (CCing you, I don't know whether you're subscribed or not). [..] It seems like it should be possible to use gbp to build the package without having an actual tar ball. However, it appears that it is not. I think

Re: git-buildpackage and tarballs

2011-10-21 Thread Antonio Ospite
On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 16:53:31 -0500 Matt Zagrabelny mzagr...@d.umn.edu wrote: Hi, For those of you using git-buildpackage (gbp), I have a question I hope you can answer. I've got a source tree for which I am the upstream author, it is under version control using git. Same situation as

Re: git-buildpackage and tarballs

2011-10-21 Thread Antonio Ospite
On Sat, 22 Oct 2011 00:22:37 +0200 Antonio Ospite osp...@studenti.unina.it wrote: On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 16:53:31 -0500 Matt Zagrabelny mzagr...@d.umn.edu wrote: [...] upstream-tag = v%(version)s ---[ END ]-- [...] Just run git-buildpackage and that's it, the gbp.conf

Re: git-buildpackage and tarballs

2011-10-21 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 04:53:31PM -0500, Matt Zagrabelny a écrit : For those of you using git-buildpackage (gbp), I have a question I hope you can answer. I've got a source tree for which I am the upstream author, it is under version control using git. It seems like it should be