Re: stripping binaries...must we?

2002-10-16 Thread Drew Parsons
On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 10:24:05AM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > Drew Parsons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-10-14 00:41:49 +1000]: > > OK, I'll try to remember to restrip for sarge :) > > Perhaps the BTS could be a help in remembering this? > > Bob Good idea :) Drew -- PGP public key available at ht

Re: stripping binaries...must we?

2002-10-15 Thread Drew Parsons
On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 10:24:05AM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > Drew Parsons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-10-14 00:41:49 +1000]: > > OK, I'll try to remember to restrip for sarge :) > > Perhaps the BTS could be a help in remembering this? > > Bob Good idea :) Drew -- PGP public key available at h

Re: stripping binaries...must we?

2002-10-15 Thread Bob Proulx
Drew Parsons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-10-14 00:41:49 +1000]: > OK, I'll try to remember to restrip for sarge :) Perhaps the BTS could be a help in remembering this? Bob pgpoGeZUVTmOR.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: stripping binaries...must we?

2002-10-15 Thread Bob Proulx
Drew Parsons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-10-14 00:41:49 +1000]: > OK, I'll try to remember to restrip for sarge :) Perhaps the BTS could be a help in remembering this? Bob msg07487/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: stripping binaries...must we?

2002-10-13 Thread Drew Parsons
On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 10:09:00AM -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > > But to answer your specific question, I don't see it as a big deal if > you ship unstripped binaries in a package in unstable for a while. I > think the important part is providing stripped binaries for sarge; so > just be sure to

Re: stripping binaries...must we?

2002-10-13 Thread Colin Walters
On Sat, 2002-10-12 at 23:19, Drew Parsons wrote: > Why does policy ask us to strip binaries anyway? Is it merely to reduce > storage and bandwidth costs? Right. I think there will be a point in the future (probably 2-3 years away at least though) though where we can just default to shipping uns

Re: stripping binaries...must we?

2002-10-13 Thread Drew Parsons
On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 10:30:35AM +0200, Bas Zoetekouw wrote: > > > Could someone please clarify if it's appropriate to respect upstream's > > wishes to leave the symbols in? > > Sure. It's only a "should" in policy, not a "must", so it's ok not to > strip. > OK, I guess I'll pack 'em back in

Re: stripping binaries...must we?

2002-10-13 Thread Drew Parsons
On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 10:09:00AM -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > > But to answer your specific question, I don't see it as a big deal if > you ship unstripped binaries in a package in unstable for a while. I > think the important part is providing stripped binaries for sarge; so > just be sure t

Re: stripping binaries...must we?

2002-10-13 Thread Colin Walters
On Sat, 2002-10-12 at 23:19, Drew Parsons wrote: > Why does policy ask us to strip binaries anyway? Is it merely to reduce > storage and bandwidth costs? Right. I think there will be a point in the future (probably 2-3 years away at least though) though where we can just default to shipping un

Re: stripping binaries...must we?

2002-10-13 Thread Drew Parsons
On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 10:30:35AM +0200, Bas Zoetekouw wrote: > > > Could someone please clarify if it's appropriate to respect upstream's > > wishes to leave the symbols in? > > Sure. It's only a "should" in policy, not a "must", so it's ok not to > strip. > OK, I guess I'll pack 'em back in

Re: stripping binaries...must we?

2002-10-13 Thread Jörg Sommer
Drew Parsons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > Could someone please clarify if it's appropriate to respect upstream's > wishes to leave the symbols in? Why you not provide a -dbg version of your package? If someone has an error and want to report this, he can install the -dbg version to get non st

Re: stripping binaries...must we?

2002-10-13 Thread Jörg Sommer
Drew Parsons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > Could someone please clarify if it's appropriate to respect upstream's > wishes to leave the symbols in? Why you not provide a -dbg version of your package? If someone has an error and want to report this, he can install the -dbg version to get non st

Re: stripping binaries...must we?

2002-10-13 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Drew! You wrote: > Why does policy ask us to strip binaries anyway? Is it merely to reduce > storage and bandwidth costs? Yes, afaik this is the only reason. > Could someone please clarify if it's appropriate to respect upstream's > wishes to leave the symbols in? Sure. It's only a "should

Re: stripping binaries...must we?

2002-10-13 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Drew! You wrote: > Why does policy ask us to strip binaries anyway? Is it merely to reduce > storage and bandwidth costs? Yes, afaik this is the only reason. > Could someone please clarify if it's appropriate to respect upstream's > wishes to leave the symbols in? Sure. It's only a "should

stripping binaries...must we?

2002-10-12 Thread Drew Parsons
Policy says binaries "should" (not "must") be stripped: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-files.html#s11.1 "Note that by default all installed binaries should be stripped, either by using the -s flag to install, or by calling strip on the binaries after they have been copied into debian/

stripping binaries...must we?

2002-10-12 Thread Drew Parsons
Policy says binaries "should" (not "must") be stripped: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-files.html#s11.1 "Note that by default all installed binaries should be stripped, either by using the -s flag to install, or by calling strip on the binaries after they have been copied into debian/