Re: Bug#62378: Redundant directory and package name

2000-08-22 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
> > Think this: Do the docs document the docs? /usr/share/doc/mutt documents > > mutt, but /usr/share/doc/mutt-doc... documents... what? mutt-doc? Is a > > nonsensical place for documentation, I think. It only has some sense from a > > package management perspective, but that's not ok, package man

Re: PLEASE: standard package README file/orientation

2000-08-22 Thread Steve Greenland
On 22-Aug-00, 23:12 (CDT), Daniel Barclay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Some packages don't have a documentation directory at all. Then they are in violation of the Debian policy. Current policy requires that /usr/doc/ exist (possibly as a symlink to /usr/share/doc/). > Some others do but their f

Re: PLEASE: standard package README file/orientation

2000-08-22 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 12:12:47AM -0400, Daniel Barclay wrote: > Why? Because of all the times I've needed such information and it > wasn't there or was hard to find. What's insufficient about dpkg -L ? (Or, if you've forgotten why you wanted to install the package, dpkg -s to look at the descr

Re: PLEASE: standard package README file/orientation

2000-08-22 Thread Daniel Barclay
> From: Rogerio Brito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Aug 19 2000, John Ackermann wrote: > > I heartily agree with Daniel's plea. Eveb a simple listing of what > > configuration files the package uses (and where they are), and where it > > stores data (i.e., does it use space in /var) would be a bi

Re: there are different variables mentioned in the footnote about debugging and stripping binaries

2000-08-22 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Josip" == Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Josip> I don't get it. Which is it, then, BUILD_DEBUG=yes or Josip> DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=debug ? Footnotes are not part of the policy, so we should prefer the actual policy to the footnote. However, this is indeed a bug, and it shall b

Re: Bug#62378: Redundant directory and package name

2000-08-22 Thread Steve Greenland
On 22-Aug-00, 21:02 (CDT), Nicol?s Lichtmaier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Think this: Do the docs document the docs? /usr/share/doc/mutt documents > mutt, but /usr/share/doc/mutt-doc... documents... what? mutt-doc? Is a > nonsensical place for documentation, I think. It only has some sense from

Re: Bug#62378: Redundant directory and package name

2000-08-22 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 11:54:43AM -0700, Chris Waters wrote: > An excellent idea! And, in order to avoid potential conflicts or > abuse, any proposed all-upper-case names should be discussed on > -policy first. With that addition, I think we have the makings of a > fine proposal here. If someon

Re: Bug#62378: Redundant directory and package name

2000-08-22 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
> > > 1. I subtly avoided those by specifying doc- rather than -doc :-) > > > FWIW, I think we ought to come to agreement about the proper behaviour: > > > right now I don't know *where* to look after installing foo-doc. > > > > Here the solution is clear to me. A package mutt-doc docume

Re: Bug#62378: Redundant directory and package name

2000-08-22 Thread Steve Greenland
On 22-Aug-00, 18:27 (CDT), Nicol?s Lichtmaier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 1. I subtly avoided those by specifying doc- rather than -doc :-) > > FWIW, I think we ought to come to agreement about the proper behaviour: > > right now I don't know *where* to look after installing foo-doc. >

Re: Bug#62378: Redundant directory and package name

2000-08-22 Thread Chris Waters
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 08:27:37PM -0300, Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote: > Sounds good, I would agree with this Let's save the game here (doom > metaphor). Now: What about other kind of specs? Would it be useful to have > a /usr/share/doc/specs/RFC? together with a /usr/share/doc/specs/w3 and > such?

Re: Bug#62378: Redundant directory and package name

2000-08-22 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
> > That's a half true. Many packages install files in the doc directory of the > > package being documented. /usr/share/doc/doc-rfc/ should only have a > > changelog and a README. > > 1. I subtly avoided those by specifying doc- rather than -doc :-) > FWIW, I think we ought to come to

Processed: Re: Bug#68981: dpkg: runs ldconfig way too often

2000-08-22 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > severity 68981 wishlist Bug#68981: dpkg: runs ldconfig way too often Severity set to `wishlist'. > reassign 68981 dpkg Bug#68981: dpkg: runs ldconfig way too often Bug reassigned from package `debian-policy' to `dpkg'. > thanks Stopping processing her

Bug#68981: dpkg: runs ldconfig way too often

2000-08-22 Thread Manoj Srivastava
severity 68981 wishlist reassign 68981 dpkg thanks >>"Josip" == Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Josip> On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 03:44:08PM -0600, Dwayne C. Litzenberger wrote: >> Post-install ldconfigs should be taken over by dpkg. ldconfig >> should only be run once at the end of an

Bug#69311: PROPOSAL] Finishing the /usr/doc -> /usr/share/doc transition.

2000-08-22 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Santiago" == Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Santiago> On 20 Aug 2000, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> What is wrong with the plan currently in place? Santiago> It will slow down the goal of FHS compliance (inclusing an empty Santiago> /usr/doc) even more. Umm, speed of conf

Re: Bug#62378: Redundant directory and package name

2000-08-22 Thread Chris Waters
On Mon, Aug 21, 2000 at 10:16:09PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > Since package names must be all-lower-case, perhaps all-upper-case names > (like the existing /usr/share/doc/{HOWTO,HTML}) could be reserved for > "particularly useful" documentation packages? An excellent idea! And, in order to avo

Re: .desktop files on GNOME

2000-08-22 Thread Chris Waters
On Mon, Aug 21, 2000 at 03:11:57PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > [ Background: Sergio has written support for gnome .desktop files into > debhelper. ] > Sergio Rua wrote: > > > Are .desktop files actually useful on Debian systems? Doesn't the menu > > > system take care of it? > > Yes if you us

Bug#69229: PROPOSED 2000/08/16] Free pkgs depending on non-US should go into non-US/{main,contrib}

2000-08-22 Thread Anthony Towns
severity 69229 normal retitle 69229 [AMENDMENT 2000/08/22] Free pkgs depending on non-US thanks This has been seconded by Santiago Vila, Joseph Carter and Josip Rodin. It seems pretty uncontroversial and straightforward, so ten days for any further discussion seems reasonable. Cheers, aj -- Ant

Re: Bug#62378: Redundant directory and package name

2000-08-22 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Steve Greenland wrote: > On 21-Aug-00, 15:56 (CDT), Nicol?s Lichtmaier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Besides, it would be nice to have many rfc packages: doc-rfc-mail, > > doc-rfc-web, all of them puting packages in /usr/share/doc/rfc. And > > there could be symlinkf pointing to the most recent

Re: Bug#62378: Redundant directory and package name

2000-08-22 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Greenland) wrote on 21.08.00 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > right now I don't know *where* to look after installing foo-doc. /var/lib/dpkg/info/foo-doc.list. > (Yes, both of the above points are rather facetious...) Me too. > > Besides, it would be nice to have many rfc pa