debian-policy_3.5.5.0_i386.changes INSTALLED

2001-06-07 Thread Debian Installer
Installing: debian-policy_3.5.5.0.tar.gz to pool/main/d/debian-policy/debian-policy_3.5.5.0.tar.gz policy-process.txt.gz byhand libc6-migration.txt byhand fhs.txt byhand debian-policy_3.5.5.0_all.deb to pool/main/d/debian-policy/debian-policy_3.5.5.0_all.deb perl-policy.txt.gz byhand menu-poli

[russell@coker.com.au: Re: Adding device file to /dev.]

2001-06-07 Thread Julian Gilbey
Discussing the question of making device files in a postinst, and how to go about doing so. I'd really like it if someone could draft a proposal which says how it ought to be done (Russell?). Thanks, Julian - Forwarded message from Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Date: Mon, 4 Ju

Bug#99324: Lots of UTF-8 pointers...

2001-06-07 Thread Cesar Eduardo Barros
A pretty good FAQ about UTF-8 and Unicode in general, which has lots of info about UTF-8 and Linux: - http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/unicode.html -- UTF-8 and Unicode FAQ A recent slashdot.org article about Unicode (with the usual flammage, but a few insightful posts): - http://slashdot.org/art

Re: RFC: default encoding of documentation and debian control files

2001-06-07 Thread Radovan Garabik
On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 09:20:50PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Jun 04, Radovan Garabik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> >If, for whatever reason (such as upstream author's or maintainer's > >> >names, foreign language package description and similar), you need to > >> >use characters ou

Re: RFC: default encoding of documentation and debian control files

2001-06-07 Thread Raul Miller
Seconded, with this change. -- Raul On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 12:54:13PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > Radovan Garabik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Given the recent discussion about UTF-8 support in debian, > >I would like to come forth with following proposal. > >Any comments, suggestions, and g

Fixed in NMU of debian-policy 3.5.5.0

2001-06-07 Thread Julian Gilbey
tag 66023 + fixed tag 89473 + fixed tag 89674 + fixed tag 91249 + fixed tag 91252 + fixed tag 91257 + fixed tag 91259 + fixed tag 91260 + fixed tag 91261 + fixed tag 92744 + fixed tag 94995 + fixed tag 95906 + fixed tag 97072 + fixed tag 98712 + fixed quit This message was generated automatically

Re: Bug#99871: sendmail should depend on logrotate

2001-06-07 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 10:16:30AM -0400, Richard A Nelson wrote: > My inclination is to close this, but I'm cc:ing -policy for further > comments. > > The issue is providing files for use of another package, without > depending upon the package. There are two issues: (1) Log files must be rotat

Re: RFC: default encoding of documentation and debian control files

2001-06-07 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jun 04, Radovan Garabik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >If, for whatever reason (such as upstream author's or maintainer's >> >names, foreign language package description and similar), you need to >> >use characters outside 7 bit ASCII range in control files, these >> >characters must be

Re: RFC: default encoding of documentation and debian control files

2001-06-07 Thread Radovan Garabik
On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 02:12:37AM +0300, Adi Stav wrote: > On Sun, Jun 03, 2001 at 10:20:38PM +0200, Radovan Garabik wrote: > ...snip... > > > > *Addition to 13.3 Additional documentation: > > > > Documentation of debian packages in text format, if written in language > > requiring characters ou

Re: RFC: default encoding of documentation and debian control files

2001-06-07 Thread Radovan Garabik
On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 12:54:13PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > Radovan Garabik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >3.3 Default charset of control files > > [...] > > >*Addition to 13.5 Preferred documentation formats: > > > >HTML documents, if in encoding other than us-ascii, must > >have in their

The state of policy

2001-06-07 Thread Julian Gilbey
Dear all, Version 3.5.5.0 of policy has just been installed into unstable, closing a significant number of bugs [0]. I do not intend uploading another new version before policy goes into freeze, unless there are important changes or bugfixes necessary before that time. [1] I therefore recommend

Re: [russell@coker.com.au: Re: Adding device file to /dev.]

2001-06-07 Thread Arthur Korn
Hi > > On Sun, Jun 03, 2001 at 02:37:19PM +0200, Russell Coker wrote: > > > Also make the package check for the presence of the character device > > > /dev/.devfsd first, if that device exists then your script must not > > > attempt to create the device node and it should be left for the kernel to

obsolete information in debian-policy 3.5.5.0

2001-06-07 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
[Please cc me on replies, I'm not subscribed to the list.] Apologies for sending this here but the BTS is still down. The current policy manual says in footnotes.html#19 Usual urgency values are low, medium, high and critical. They have an effect on how quickly a package will be considered for i

Re: obsolete information in debian-policy 3.5.5.0

2001-06-07 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: > However according to /usr/lib/dpkg/parsechangelog/debian, the acceptable > values for urgency are: And that list isn't correct either iirc. > This change seems to have happened around dpkg 1.9 but isn't in the > changelog. That's because that list was never th

Re: obsolete information in debian-policy 3.5.5.0

2001-06-07 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 10:55:36AM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: > Apologies for sending this here but the BTS is still down. > > The current policy manual says in footnotes.html#19 > > Usual urgency values are low, medium, high and critical. They have an > effect on how quickly a package will be

Re: obsolete information in debian-policy 3.5.5.0

2001-06-07 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Julian Gilbey wrote: > In ftp-master.debian.org:~ajt/testing/update_out.pl (which I assume is > the script which is used; Anthony, please could you confirm?), the > line which defines waiting days is: > > my %mindays = ("low" => 10, "medium" => 5, "high" => 2, "critical" => 0);

Re: obsolete information in debian-policy 3.5.5.0

2001-06-07 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 12:56:48PM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: > Interesting. The reason this came up is a couple of days ago I had an > extremely important upload to make for webmin. I put critical in the > changelog but dpkg-parsechangelog bombed out. That's when I did some > investigation a

Re: obsolete information in debian-policy 3.5.5.0

2001-06-07 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Julian Gilbey wrote: > Wichert, Anthony, any chance of resolving this one soon? For what value of `soon'? Given that noone has noticed that even though this inconsistency has been there for years means it's not very high on my todo-list. We'll get around to it before a 1.10 release thou

Re: obsolete information in debian-policy 3.5.5.0

2001-06-07 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 12:06:45AM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Julian Gilbey wrote: > > Wichert, Anthony, any chance of resolving this one soon? > > For what value of `soon'? Given that noone has noticed that even > though this inconsistency has been there for years means it's > no

Re: obsolete information in debian-policy 3.5.5.0

2001-06-07 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Julian Gilbey wrote: > This inconsistency has only been relevant since testing came into > being. Which is months ago now and still nobody noticed, probably since the priorities for testing were never documented. Wichert. -- _

Re: obsolete information in debian-policy 3.5.5.0

2001-06-07 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 12:17:23AM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Julian Gilbey wrote: > > This inconsistency has only been relevant since testing came into > > being. > > Which is months ago now and still nobody noticed, probably since > the priorities for testing were never document

Re: obsolete information in debian-policy 3.5.5.0

2001-06-07 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 10:46:51PM +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote: > AFAIK, Wichert and Anthony have been privately discussing how to > resolve it. I was not aware of the dpkg-parsechangelog issue, > though. Wichert, Anthony, any chance of resolving this one soon? Changed to emergency. These should

CVS jdg: * Change footnote about urgency values to the now-current list: low,

2001-06-07 Thread debian-policy
CVSROOT:/cvs/debian-policy Module name:debian-policy Changes by: jdg Thu Jun 7 00:45:47 PDT 2001 Modified files: . : policy.sgml debian : changelog Log message: * Change footnote about urgency values to the now-current list: low, mediu

[PROPOSAL]: encourage use of utf-8 in documentation and clarify encoding issues

2001-06-07 Thread Radovan Garabik
submitted to BTS but since master is down, I am posting a copy to debian-policy as well Package: debian-policy Version: 3.5.5.0 Severity: wishlist Following proposed addition to policy clarifies encoding issues and prepares for eventual later migration to utf-8 (see Bug#99324). Note the use of wo

Re: [PROPOSAL]: encourage use of utf-8 in documentation and clarify encoding issues

2001-06-07 Thread Sam TH
On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 04:58:31PM +0200, Radovan Garabik wrote: > + language such as ISO-8859-2 for some central- and easter Think that should be easterN. sam th --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://www.abisource.com/~sam/ OpenPGP Key: CABD33FC --- http://samth.dyndns.org/key De

Re: [PROPOSAL]: encourage use of utf-8 in documentation and clarify encoding issues

2001-06-07 Thread Roland Mas
Radovan Garabik (2001-06-07 16:58:31 +0200) : > submitted to BTS but since master is down, I am posting a copy to > debian-policy as well With the exception of the already mentioned typo, I second this proposal. -- Roland Mas Using a big hammer without caution can cause big damage. -- Postgre

Bug#98712: marked as done (Obscure Perl Policy)

2001-06-07 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug#97072: marked as done ([ACCEPTED 2001/05/18] correct policy's comments on standards-version)

2001-06-07 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug#95906: marked as done ([PROPOSAL] Mention the packaging-manual merge)

2001-06-07 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug#94995: marked as done ([ACCEPTED 16/05/2001] Clarifying instructions on linking man pages)

2001-06-07 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug#92744: marked as done ([TYPO] Section 10.1.2, example for group-writable directories)

2001-06-07 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug#91261: marked as done ([ACCEPTED 07/04/2001] modernized rewording of X/Motif policy)

2001-06-07 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug#91260: marked as done ([ACCEPTED 05/04/2001] reclarifying the policy about X and the FHS)

2001-06-07 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug#91259: marked as done ([ACCEPTED 05/04/2001] minor changes to app-defaults policy)

2001-06-07 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug#91257: marked as done ([ACCEPTED 2001-05-22] changes to X font policy)

2001-06-07 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug#91252: marked as done ([ACCEPTED 2001-05-17] enhanced x-terminal-emulator policy, second try)

2001-06-07 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug#91249: marked as done ([ACCEPTED 05/04/2001] bring X support policy into line with must/should/may usage)

2001-06-07 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug#89674: marked as done ([PROPOSAL] Clarify ldconfig usage)

2001-06-07 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug#89473: marked as done ([PROPOSAL] dpkg-statoverride and Conflicts: suidmanager (<< 0.50))

2001-06-07 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug#66023: marked as done ([ACCEPTED 22/05/2001] Treat plugins and shared libraries differently)

2001-06-07 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Re: Bug#98291: being truthful about the FHS and us

2001-06-07 Thread Chris Waters
Picking this back up where I left it after a brief hiatus... With the BTS currently down, I can't really do a lot to move this proposal forward, but I thought I'd at least post the final version that aj and I hammered out. This meets our goals of being simple, direct, and addressing the actual pr

Bug#99324: Default charset should be UTF-8

2001-06-07 Thread Radovan Garabik
On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 08:44:21PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: > Radovan Garabik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> immo vero scripsit > > > On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 02:09:28PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 01:58:37PM +0200, Radovan Garabik wrote: > > ... > > > > > > > There has to be

Bug#99324: Default charset should be UTF-8

2001-06-07 Thread Radovan Garabik
On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 09:02:12PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: > Radovan Garabik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> immo vero scripsit > Hi, > > I would object severely to this proposal, because there are currently many > documentation in Japanese, which is in EUC. > > Usually Japanese text is identified with

Bug#99324: Default charset should be UTF-8

2001-06-07 Thread Radovan Garabik
On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 08:42:28PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: > Radovan Garabik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> immo vero scripsit > > > > utf8 in the current state does not cover everything we had in other > > > encodings. > > > > utf8 is just a _multibyte_ encoding, not _character_ encoding, > > it can

Bug#99324: Default charset should be UTF-8

2001-06-07 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Radovan Garabik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> immo vero scripsit > > I would not go against making programs utf-8-aware, > > but I don't think that changing all the documentation to utf-8 > > is going too far. > > not yet - it will be just recommendation so far Nice to hear that. regards, junichi

Bug#99324: Default charset should be UTF-8

2001-06-07 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Radovan Garabik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> immo vero scripsit > > utf8 in the current state does not cover everything we had in other > > encodings. > > utf8 is just a _multibyte_ encoding, not _character_ encoding, > it can represent whatever character encoding is used in UCS-4 UCS4 is not a satisfac

Bug#99933: [PROPOSAL]: encourage use of utf-8 in documentation and clarify encoding issues

2001-06-07 Thread Radovan Garabik
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.5.5.0 Severity: wishlist Following proposed addition to policy clarifies encoding issues and prepares for eventual later migration to utf-8 (see Bug#99324). Note the use of word "should" - these are not strict requirements. --- policy.sgml-old Fri Jun 1 11: