Re: Vcs-* and Other Fields

2009-06-25 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 11:33:12PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > I often have branches for: > - unstable > - experimental > - stable > - backports > and there may be others of course. Each of these may be branched > off the upstream stable/development branches at the appropriate > points. This allo

Re: Architectures (Operating Systems and CPU Architectures)

2009-06-25 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 07:23:58PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > > My question is, does anyone know of cases where a given operating > > system and architecture does not constitute a valid platform (ie, > > Architecture in the d/control file sense). > armel and lpia are special cases and don't comb

linux-i386 == i386 Clarification in Section 7.1 (Package Relationships)

2009-06-25 Thread Jonathan Yu
Hi all: If the architecture-restricted dependency is part of a set of alternatives using |, that alternative is ignored completely on architectures that do not match the restriction. For example: Build-Depends: foo [!i386] | bar [!amd64] is equivalent to bar on the i386 architecture, to foo

Re: Architectures (Operating Systems and CPU Architectures)

2009-06-25 Thread Russ Allbery
Jonathan Yu writes: > Does that mean we should be able to just pick something from both > lists, and turn that into a valid string to put in the Architecture > field? > > solaris-armel, for example. I think you have to distinguish between syntax and semantics here. Syntactically, such as from th

Architectures (Operating Systems and CPU Architectures)

2009-06-25 Thread Jonathan Yu
Hi everyone: I'm mailing this to both debian-policy and debian-devel, because I'd like to get the perspective from both sides -- the policy one, and the "in practice" thinking. Currently architectures are defined as a string which contains two parts, an operating system name, and a microprocessor

Bug#534638: debian-policy: Section about Info documents needs to be updated

2009-06-25 Thread Bill Allombert
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 01:04:49AM +0200, Raphaël Hertzog wrote: > Package: debian-policy > Version: 3.8.2.0 > Severity: normal > > Since the upload of install-info to sid, packages installing info > documentation should no more call install-info in their postinst. > It is now automatically done b

Bug#534638: debian-policy: Section about Info documents needs to be updated

2009-06-25 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Fri, 26 Jun 2009, Bill Allombert wrote: > > Since the upload of install-info to sid, packages installing info > > documentation should no more call install-info in their postinst. > > It is now automatically done by the file trigger provided by the > > install-info package. > > What about parti

Processed: Lintian and debhelper need changes too

2009-06-25 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > clone 534638 -1 -2 Bug#534638: debian-policy: Section about Info documents needs to be updated Bug 534638 cloned as bugs 534639-534640. > reassign -1 debhelper 7.2.16 Bug#534639: debian-policy: Section about Info documents needs to be updated Bug

Bug#534638: debian-policy: Section about Info documents needs to be updated

2009-06-25 Thread Raphaël Hertzog
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.8.2.0 Severity: normal Since the upload of install-info to sid, packages installing info documentation should no more call install-info in their postinst. It is now automatically done by the file trigger provided by the install-info package. You should however ex

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Re: Vcs-* and Other Fields

2009-06-25 Thread Roger Leigh
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 01:49:17PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Thu, 25 Jun 2009, Julien Cristau wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 09:20:51 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > > > > As far as branches are concerned, the default branch should point to > > > the debian packaging branch and that

Re: Vcs-* and Other Fields

2009-06-25 Thread Russ Allbery
Steve Langasek writes: > On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 01:06:54AM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: >> If one is using a tool such as git-buildpackage, the "debian" and >> "upstream" branches are the *minimum* required information however. > That sounds to me like a defect in git-buildpackage, then. All git-

Re: Vcs-* and Other Fields

2009-06-25 Thread Russ Allbery
Raphael Hertzog writes: > As far as branches are concerned, the default branch should point to > the debian packaging branch and that's it. Then if you have the need > to encode more about how the repo is used, it should be somewhere in a > supplementary file in debian/source/. And that's what I

Bug#534408: debian-policy: Installed-Size is defined as "kilobytes" but dpkg-gencontrol fills it in with kibibytes

2009-06-25 Thread Russ Allbery
Steve Langasek writes: > On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:56:58AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: >> I don't much like the word either, but at this point it's an IEEE and >> ISO standard (IEEE 1541-2002). My feeling is that standards are more >> important than aesthetics and we should generally follow esta

Re: Vcs-* and Other Fields

2009-06-25 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 01:49:17PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > On Thu, 25 Jun 2009, Julien Cristau wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 09:20:51 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > > > > As far as branches are concerned, the default branch should po

Re: Vcs-* and Other Fields

2009-06-25 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 01:49:17PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Thu, 25 Jun 2009, Julien Cristau wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 09:20:51 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > > As far as branches are concerned, the default branch should point to > > > the debian packaging branch and that's i

Re: Vcs-* and Other Fields

2009-06-25 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009, Julien Cristau wrote: > On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 09:20:51 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > > As far as branches are concerned, the default branch should point to > > the debian packaging branch and that's it. > > And how do you do that, when the debian and upstream repos are

Re: Vcs-* and Other Fields

2009-06-25 Thread Julien Cristau
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 09:20:51 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > As far as branches are concerned, the default branch should point to > the debian packaging branch and that's it. And how do you do that, when the debian and upstream repos are the same? That seems to be a fairly arbitrary limitatio

Re: Vcs-* and Other Fields

2009-06-25 Thread sean finney
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 01:04:59AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 01:06:54AM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > > If one is using a tool such as git-buildpackage, the "debian" and > > "upstream" branches are the *minimum* required information however. > > That sounds to me like a

Re: Vcs-* and Other Fields

2009-06-25 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 01:04:59AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 01:06:54AM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > > If one is using a tool such as git-buildpackage, the "debian" and > > "upstream" branches are the *minimum* required information however. > > That sounds to me like

Re: Vcs-* and Other Fields

2009-06-25 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 01:06:54AM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > If one is using a tool such as git-buildpackage, the "debian" and > "upstream" branches are the *minimum* required information however. That sounds to me like a defect in git-buildpackage, then. -- Steve Langasek Gi

Re: Vcs-* and Other Fields

2009-06-25 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009, Jonathan Yu wrote: > I don't really think that each version control system should have its > own field, like Vcs-Mtn, Vcs-Svn, Vcs-Git etc, because it's simply not > very future proof in my opinion. On the other hand we've got > situations where there are lots of Version Contro

Bug#534408: debian-policy: Installed-Size is defined as "kilobytes" but dpkg-gencontrol fills it in with kibibytes

2009-06-25 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:56:58AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Bill Allombert writes: > > I would prefer if the word kibibyte was not used in policy, so I would > > strike '(in other words, the size in kibibytes)'. > I don't much like the word either, but at this point it's an IEEE and > ISO st