he vast majority of packages build with
-O0 just fine. But where it fails it fails spectacularly :)
As for me personally, I have made peace with -O2 code. stepi is your friend ;)
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reworked in dpkg.
For dpkg-architecture, fixing the GNU names is good enough.
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On Tue, May 07, 2002 at 04:18:13AM -0500, Chris Lawrence wrote:
> On May 07, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> > The LSB is necessary to avoid diversity among GNU/Linux distributions.
> > There is only one GNU system, as such no diversity, and all of what the LSB
> > specifies as far
merry mix of early Debian
members, new members of Debian, and fresh blood.
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> On Sat, May 04, 2002 at 10:08:51AM -0400, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> > I don't care about now, I care about the next release, or the release
> > after that.
>
> Then how about you spend a moment t
On Sat, May 04, 2002 at 06:34:32PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> Think about it for a while from any perspective but a hurd hacker's for
> heavens sake.
I have thought about it from all perspectives, from the release managers
perspective specifically.
> Think about what should get the highest pr
On Sat, May 04, 2002 at 04:05:39PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 05:27:30PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> > On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 08:16:32PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> > > On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 07:15:09PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> > >
On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 09:32:25AM -0700, Grant Bowman wrote:
> * Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020503 09:21]:
> > On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 08:16:32PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> > > There may be subtle differences between the meanings of the various
> &g
above
by making a finer distinction.
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example.
If you want such wild fantasies to become true, you should take another look
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[1] You can't boot yet from a shadowed filesystem, and the shadowfs
implementation is not yet ready for prime time. But all the ground has been
cleared and cultivated.
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he restriction to 24 lines makes any sense, but it
should print the help output at stdout, so you can easily pipe it to your
pager. GNU programs also print usage (--usage) information at error
(to stderr) or at --usage (to stdout).
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[1] Such an example existed, some binutils-* package did this.
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ss compilation. I am
not sure about the wording, and how much technical details it should
contain. (But I can't make a better suggestion right now).
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On Fri, Jul 27, 2001 at 09:09:55PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> Previously Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> > Can you elaborate on the advantage of letting everyone generate their own
> > checksums for the installed files? Seems to me a waste of cpu cycles.
>
> We process a
g part is
> implemented already, the second is not currently.
Can you elaborate on the advantage of letting everyone generate their own
checksums for the installed files? Seems to me a waste of cpu cycles.
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> >>>>> "Marcus" == Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Marcus> We could make it bail out with an error if something is
> Marcus> requested which isn't implement
of calling ldconfig is).
It's really just a clean up of one of the many things that are slightly
broken.
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On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 11:03:14AM -0700, Zack Weinberg wrote:
> On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 04:43:11AM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> > On Sat, May 19, 2001 at 09:13:31PM -0700, Zack Weinberg wrote:
> > > I'd like to tighten this up a bit by requiring that /bin/sh adhere to
erstandable motivation to specify what POSIX doesn't, your proposal
leaves a lot to be wished for.
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s (bug-hurd@gnu.org) gnumach
> GNU Hurd Maintainers (bug-hurd@gnu.org) hurd
> GNU Hurd Maintainers (bug-hurd@gnu.org) mig
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hs at build time, I would support such a proposal, but I have no time to
work the details out myself.
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ay: this is linux-all, hurd-all,
linux-any, hurd-any. I think everybody can agree to that ;)
I wrote something about arch depends in more detail:
http://master.debian.org/~brinkmd/arch-handling.txt
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> message.
I don't know. If it is, then you can scratch my messages instead.
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ess I am very mistaken, we must have one such rule for autobuilders and
maintainers to follow.
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On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 09:00:02PM +1100, Herbert Xu wrote:
> Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > IMHO, the fundamental and unavoidable reason why we have this problem
> > is the following:
>
> > We don't know in which Packages files (=dis
his is not a lot of work. The release manager needs to
look at this place of course, instead in the upload queue. It's just a
matter of how to communicate it to the release manager. Do you think
this is a workable compromise?
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On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 01:05:32AM -1000, Brian Russo wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 12:55:16PM +0200, Moshe Zadka wrote:
> > On Wed, 28 Feb 2001 01:38:09 +0100 (CET), Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
> > >
> > > > There has not
On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 09:57:51AM +, Julian Gilbey wrote:
> Policy says compress it "unless it is small". 4k is an arbitrary
> choice AFAIK.
Not quite so. It is based on the common block size of the file system.
If you have a block size of 4 kb, all files between 1 and 4096 bytes will
occupy
lved ages ago in ldconfig :)
>
> Maybe so, but then Debian packages shouldn't include the symlink in
> the runtime library package.
Note that the Hurd does not have ldconfig doing anything (its a link to
/bin/true to make postinsts happy).
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Or /100 of the full archive. What a deal.
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On Sun, Nov 12, 2000 at 07:09:19PM +0200, Aigars Mahinovs wrote:
> My idea is that every DD's skills in should be recorded.
That's counter productive, inprecise and unsocial.
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installed, a hurd partition with libs and headers mounted on /gnu, and the
package is prepared for it.
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Am Son, 05 Nov 2000 22:24:35 schrieb Jason Gunthorpe:
>
> On Sun, 5 Nov 2000, Ben Collins wrote:
>
> > 1) Non-FHS ports have problems concering the directories where things
> >get installed (they may not match linux directories). Darwin, FreeBSD,
> >Hurd and many others fall into this cat
utput
at all, verbose == everything) and leaves the medium levels to the package
maintainers.
The level should be passed to the install script by dpkg (or via
environment, also by dpkg or by user).
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ven help, as the Hurd will have its own init
scheme as well, and we need to strengthen the update-inet.d abstraction, not
weaken it, for compatibility. Diversion is good :)
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On Mon, Oct 16, 2000 at 07:04:44PM -0300, Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote:
>
> Debian does not ship any other kernel...
Eh, so what?
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>
> The processes to restart could be taken from ps AND /etc/init.d/*.
This only works under Linux (/proc usage).
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having a conflict?)
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hich probably needs to be in Build-Depends then). They can
even compile a debian/rules2 program and use that for further processing.
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king for seconds for this proposal.
Seconded.
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On Sun, Jul 09, 2000 at 01:15:19AM +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 08, 2000 at 04:17:18PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> > > > That is ld.so(8) on my system.
> > >
> > > Ditto. Actually, since we basically only use ELF nowadays, that
> > > s
"ld-linux.so(8)".
I don't know what ld-linux.so is. Please don't use it.
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Thanks for paying attention. The Hurd can and will have a kernel logger,
too, so please use the generic name.
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On Sat, Mar 04, 2000 at 05:30:56PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote:
> Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> > I agree with the idea in general, but the wording is extremely poor.
> > "Reference" is not a computer-technical term.
>
> It's the same wording that's already used
On Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 06:01:14PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote:
> A proposal to limit the files that are placed in /usr/share/doc to those
> that are not referred to by any programs on the system.
I agree with the idea in general, but the wording is extremely poor.
"Reference" is not a computer-technic
On Tue, Jan 25, 2000 at 12:30:24AM +, Julian Gilbey wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 24, 2000 at 03:56:52PM +0100, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
>
> > GNU (read: the Hurd) is using /libexec (we don't have /usr) as well.
> > It is a good idea for some stuff IMHO.
> > The FHS should
On Tue, Jan 25, 2000 at 06:15:43PM +1100, Brian May wrote:
> >>>>> "Marcus" == Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Marcus> GNU (read: the Hurd) is using /libexec (we don't have
> Marcus> /usr) as well. It is a good idea for som
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> Instead of being slammed for inventing conspiracies where none would exist,
> I would be perfectly happy to be proven wrong by someone providing
> a link to such archives. As so many of you
On Tue, Jan 11, 2000 at 03:21:36PM +, Julian Gilbey wrote:
> I like this! (Read: seconded) At long last, we may be able to do
> away with the regular /usr/X11R6/bin vs. /usr/bin debate!
Seconded as well. At one time we will be able to drop /usr/X11R6.
(I am certain that this will happen at
o conclusions.
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after the package build. Is this what you mean?
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This is not a good idea. To me it shows that trying to be overly clever with
automagically depends generation backfires too easily.
Well, all IMNSHO,
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I think this is obvious.
Forget what I said about it. I didn't grok what you said. Actually, what you
say above makes perfectly sense.
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specially for people who
work offline most of the time. Also, updating this with dpkg is preferred.
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On Sat, Sep 11, 1999 at 02:45:50PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote:
> On 10-Sep-99, 08:04 (CDT), Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Raul suggested to mention core dumps, which is indeed a good idea.
> > I extended this to give a
too.) i would like to hear
other peoples opinion on that.
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),
+ or testing and developing the software. Therefore it is
+ recommended to support building the package with
+ debugging information through the following interface:
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On Fri, Sep 10, 1999 at 04:28:08AM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
>
> I have written down what I think to be a better proposal
Of course, because I am utterly stupid, I forgot to attach the beast.
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n think of for (c) are: don't use =debug or somehow rename
> the package at build time.
In case of (c), I would say the above suggestion (strip being default),
addresses it. OTOH, we never can prevent random errors/failure conditions.
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On Thu, Sep 09, 1999 at 11:48:48AM -0400, Ben Collins wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 09, 1999 at 08:14:36PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 09, 1999 at 11:20:48AM -0400, Ben Collins wrote:
> > > "You have to implement debugging this way if you are going to
> &g
a great proposal of you, that accomplishes such
a difficult goal.
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On Thu, Sep 09, 1999 at 11:32:17PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 09, 1999 at 02:45:19PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 08, 1999 at 09:24:06PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
> > > (2) You want some way to prevent the executables from being stripped
&g
Hi,
On Wed, Sep 08, 1999 at 09:24:06PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 09, 1999 at 02:19:36AM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> > Raul, how hard do you want to make it for users to build with debugging
> > info? Activating a gcc wrapper, changing install and strip. This is
pe this is possible some day. But this is
not achievable currently, I know. Still, I think we should at least try.
I hpoe my point is now more clear.
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Raul Miller wrote:
>
> On Wed, Sep 08, 1999 at 02:52:59PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> > This is why I think a suggestion is too weak. You can equally well remove
> > the suggestion, because I can't rely on it and have to check always if a
> > package follows the
On Tue, Sep 07, 1999 at 03:14:56PM -0700, Chris Waters wrote:
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> > On Tue, Sep 07, 1999 at 01:11:33PM -0700, Chris Waters wrote:
> > > If the binaries can be debugged in the build directories, then there's
> >
estion or does it differently.
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Am I exaggerating? Probably. But as E.W. Heine said, you have sometimes to
aim higher to hit the middle of the target.
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lems with sloppy parts of the policy in the past (look at the conffile vs
configuration file mess, for example). A few days more or less now don't
matter.
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gs are filed against the package.
I think this note is unnecessary and can be deleted without substitute.
The rest is fine.
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the dark: proposing random
> constitutional ammendments isn't going to make me feel any easier.
If this is the other main point of you we should ask the DPL for approval of
our work.
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stitution is needed.
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an be compiled with the available tools (useful
for bootrstapping, see Dale Scheetz thread :) of course, those options will
be in other proposals. If you don't like this example, ignore it and make up
your own.
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ryone that it's not important that you change from
> to just yet if you don't feel like it; even if you think my
I agree, but this is not what I say. What I say is:
"You can do either or , but we'd prefer "
is worse than
"You must do , and if you don't
elieve that introducing major changes in the policy manual and having a
smooth transition is not a contradiction, even if all packages suddenly
don't comply to policy any longer.
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