Re: Supported models

2001-11-03 Thread Laurent de Segur
If the real goal is finding out if the machine you bought can install and run Debian, you should make that task really simple. Something is the line of using a list of machines given by what they show under the Apple System Profiler (running on the OS pre-installed on the machine) associated with

Re: woody boot-floppies

2001-11-03 Thread Colin Walters
Joseph Fannin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So I bootable CD for oldworld machines isn't possible, eh? S'funny, I have one right here. Apparently it requires proprietary software to create; read the list archives.

Re: woody boot-floppies

2001-11-03 Thread Chris Tillman
On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 07:05:04PM -0800, ozymandias G desiderata wrote: I downloaded a prebuilt 2.4.12-benh0 kernel from http://www.ppckernel.org/benh-devel/ and added it to my tftp-bootable yaboot configuration. The kernel loaded and booted just fine, only hanging when it hit the place

Re: Supported models

2001-11-03 Thread sloopy malibu
i have an idea on this... how about a small Mac OS application that you could d/l and run and it would read the gestalt id and report weather the machine will run and what dist minimum to use (i.e Beige G3 would report something like 'This machine would need bootx to startup and Dist 2.2r2 or

Re: woody boot-floppies

2001-11-03 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sat, Nov 03, 2001 at 12:54:04AM +, Bastien Nocera wrote: FFS ! RTFM ! ;) well i presume benh knows what he is doing, so i usually refrain from telling him to rtfm! ffs! foad! Hmm, actually just passing video=ofonly makes the Debian 2.2r2 CD boot alright, that's how I installed the

Re: woody boot-floppies

2001-11-03 Thread Ethan Benson
On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 07:51:46PM -0700, Chris Tillman wrote: On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 03:47:23PM -0800, ozymandias G desiderata wrote: On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 03:32:25PM -0800, ozymandias G desiderata wrote: Hi! I'm trying to install woody onto a G4 Cube using Ethan's current

Re: woody boot-floppies

2001-11-03 Thread Ethan Benson
On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 09:02:32PM -0700, Chris Tillman wrote: potato has the same kernel if I'm not mistaken. correct, its the exact same source, only difference is woody has one with a few different config options, none remotly relevant to booting. -- Ethan Benson

Re: woody boot-floppies

2001-11-03 Thread Ethan Benson
On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 11:31:40PM -0500, Joseph Fannin wrote: So I bootable CD for oldworld machines isn't possible, eh? S'funny, I have one right here. rtfla. it requires proprietary software and expensive distribution licences. unacceptable for debian, period. -- Ethan Benson

Re: Recent PPC Reiser support Reiser strategy

2001-11-03 Thread Ethan Benson
On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 09:03:07PM -0500, Jean-Francois Landry wrote: Sure it wasn't the drive? The controller? Cosmic rays flipping bits in your (non-ECC) RAM? OK, maybe I put just a little too much trust into if that were so the corruption would affect all filesystems, XFS has been

Re: Need 2.4.9-benh0 snapshot or diff

2001-11-03 Thread Ethan Benson
On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 08:02:56PM -0800, Anthony Lau wrote: I guess I will have to wait and see if 2.4.14-pre6 is better since Linus Torvald wrote that he had fixed the OOM-killer. I know that the snapshot of 2.4.14-pre5 I have appears to kill processes that I want up, but were idling.

Re: Supported models

2001-11-03 Thread Andreas Wüst
Hi Chris Here's a revision. [snip] Amiga Power-UP Systems (APUS) UMAX A1200, A3000, A4000apus Uuuhh, did not know, Phase5 boards are now manufactured by UMAX? ;) Just to clean up some confusion, Amiga Power-UP Systems (aka APUS) have nothing to do with UMAX at

Re: Supported models

2001-11-03 Thread Andreas Wüst
Hi i have an idea on this... how about a small Mac OS application that you could d/l and run and it would read the gestalt id and report weather the machine will run and what dist minimum to use (i.e Beige G3 would report something like 'This machine would need bootx to startup and Dist 2.2r2

Re: woody boot-floppies

2001-11-03 Thread benh
well until someone donates an ibook2 to me i can't be sure what the deal is, all i know is a report from benh that he simply could not get debian's 2.2.19 to boot his ibook2 period, and i am pretty sure he hacked around on it for awhile. Heh, well, don't assume to much about me :) I don't think

Re: Need 2.4.9-benh0 snapshot or diff

2001-11-03 Thread benh
i have diffed ben's and Linus' tree and the differences are almost entirely due to i2o (sound hardware you don't have) and iSeries (something else you don't have any use for, its some embedded arch i think). penguinppc.org has been running pure Linus since 2.4.8, its currently on 2.4.12 with no

boot-floppies 3.0.16 + kernel 2.4.12-ben0 = success + bugs

2001-11-03 Thread ozymandias G desiderata
After much fiddling around, I managed to make the 2.4.12-ben0 kernel work with the root.bin from boot-floppies. I had no idea that would actually work. I had to build the partition table, initialize and mount the drives, configure the network, and write yaboot.conf from a shell, but I now have

Re: Supported models

2001-11-03 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sat, Nov 03, 2001 at 11:58:44AM +0200, Andreas Wüst wrote: Hi i have an idea on this... how about a small Mac OS application that you could d/l and run and it would read the gestalt id and report weather the machine will run and what dist minimum to use (i.e Beige G3 would report

Re: Need 2.4.9-benh0 snapshot or diff

2001-11-03 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sat, Nov 03, 2001 at 12:52:18PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With a few exceptions... The power management is definitely not up to date in Linus tree, as are a few Mac specific drivers. I would recomment using the Linus tree (or bk _2_4 which is supposed to be very close to linus as

Re: woody boot-floppies

2001-11-03 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sat, Nov 03, 2001 at 12:47:48PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, given the current status of 2.4.x, I think I will take some time next week to backport most of this to 2.2.20 so at least a reliable 2.2.x can be used for people who don't want to fight with the various 2.4.x problems

Re: boot-floppies 3.0.16 + kernel 2.4.12-ben0 = success + bugs

2001-11-03 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sat, Nov 03, 2001 at 04:12:20AM -0800, ozymandias G desiderata wrote: of you can help me. Due to the insanely cheap prices of memory, I picked up 3 512MB PC133 CAS2 DIMMS for the Cube. MacOS has no problem with them, and I get a warm and fuzzy feeling from seeing Largest Unused Block:

Re: woody boot-floppies

2001-11-03 Thread Bastien Nocera
Ethan Benson wrote: On Sat, Nov 03, 2001 at 12:47:48PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, given the current status of 2.4.x, I think I will take some time next week to backport most of this to 2.2.20 so at least a reliable 2.2.x can be used for people who don't want to fight with the

Re: Supported models

2001-11-03 Thread Andreas Wüst
Hi This would of course be a fine tool, though I am wondering why not to just put an up-to-date model list up to http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/inst/install.en.html in a first step. This list looks extremly outdated to me (no to talk about the 'tested' column). because that comes

headless G4 Cube with serial console

2001-11-03 Thread Eric C. Cooper
I've set up a G4 Cube as a headless server with a serial console. In case it's useful to others, here's what I did. I got a CubePort from Griffin Technology (http://www.griffintechnology.com). This replaces the internal modem with a standard Mac serial connector on the panel, connected to the

Re: headless G4 Cube with serial console

2001-11-03 Thread Laurent de Segur
Eric, Thanks for the info. A small, quite, and cute server for the living room is how I imagined Apple would market this thing when I heard about it thru the rumors sites. Good move! I'm heading to eBay as we speak... LdS From: Eric C. Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 12:17:17

Re: boot-floppies 3.0.16 + kernel 2.4.12-ben0 = success + bugs

2001-11-03 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Sat, 2001-11-03 at 13:12, ozymandias G desiderata wrote: does that 'idebus=66' do anything except satisfy my more compulsive urges? Unlikely. It should reflect the PCI bus speed, which is apparently 33 Mhz for most if not all recent Macs, and is normally autoprobed correctly anyway. Is

Re: Recent PPC Reiser support Reiser strategy

2001-11-03 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Sat, 2001-11-03 at 03:03, Jean-Francois Landry wrote: On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 11:03:21PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: Okay, here goes (again): I'd just like to add that I've been running most of my (x86) box on Reiserfs for over a year now, and I've yet to see it even hiccup.

Re: Need 2.4.9-benh0 snapshot or diff

2001-11-03 Thread benh
yes, i forgot to mention power management. when do you think that will be stable enough to start sendint to linus and merging with the stable branch? The problem isn't really stability, but more various tweaks I had to do to non-PPC specific code that will be difficult to merge. I will try to

Re: Recent PPC Reiser support Reiser strategy

2001-11-03 Thread Jean-Francois Landry
On Sat, Nov 03, 2001 at 07:27:45PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: On Sat, 2001-11-03 at 03:03, Jean-Francois Landry wrote: Sure it wasn't the drive? The controller? Nope, they're both still working fine, both in Linux with ext3 and in MockOS. Alright. Cosmic rays flipping bits in your

Re: Supported models

2001-11-03 Thread Chris Tillman
On Sat, Nov 03, 2001 at 02:16:24AM -0500, sloopy malibu wrote: i have an idea on this... how about a small Mac OS application that you could d/l and run and it would read the gestalt id and report weather the machine will run and what dist minimum to use (i.e Beige G3 would report something

Re: Supported models

2001-11-03 Thread Tom Rini
On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 08:56:06PM -0700, Chris Tillman wrote: Here's a revision. [snip] Motorola Firepower, PowerStack Series E, PowerStack II prep MPC 7xx, 8xxprep MTX, MTX+ prep

install guide for ppc-mac

2001-11-03 Thread sloopy malibu
not sure where to report this but this link: http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-powerpc/3.0.16-2001-1 0-27/powermac/install.txt has a echo problem with the section headings... sloopy. i.e. 11..11.. IInnttrroodduuccttiioonn Apple (and briefly a few other

Re: Supported models

2001-11-03 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sat, Nov 03, 2001 at 05:32:36PM +0200, Andreas Wüst wrote: OK, I now see why they are outdated, but I would not consider this as an excuse to not set up a page with proper, current, up-to-date information about supported models, and which distro/boot-floppies would be best to start with

Re: headless G4 Cube with serial console

2001-11-03 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sat, Nov 03, 2001 at 12:17:17PM -0500, Eric C. Cooper wrote: and the kernel boot messages appear there, but the yaboot prompt still appeared on the monitor. I fixed this by replacing the ofboot this is because i had to force it in the ofboot script, otherwise apple's braindamaged OF happily

Re: install guide for ppc-mac

2001-11-03 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sat, Nov 03, 2001 at 06:23:29PM -0500, sloopy malibu wrote: not sure where to report this but this link: http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-powerpc/3.0.16-2001-1 0-27/powermac/install.txt has a echo problem with the section headings... its generated from sgml, i

Re: Supported models

2001-11-03 Thread Chris Tillman
On Sat, Nov 03, 2001 at 01:32:15PM -0700, Tom Rini wrote: On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 08:56:06PM -0700, Chris Tillman wrote: Here's a revision. [snip] Motorola Firepower, PowerStack Series E, PowerStack II prep MPC 7xx, 8xx

Re: install guide for ppc-mac

2001-11-03 Thread Chris Tillman
On Sat, Nov 03, 2001 at 05:35:18PM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote: On Sat, Nov 03, 2001 at 06:23:29PM -0500, sloopy malibu wrote: not sure where to report this but this link: http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-powerpc/3.0.16-2001-1 0-27/powermac/install.txt has