I see where powerpc support has been _removed_ from avian on Apr 30:
https://github.com/ReadyTalk/avian/commit/41adb74eb1895c662920fdfb7467ce415d9fa0b7
This would explain why it doesn't run for us. It looks like powerpc is a dying
architecture ...
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I tried your suggested tests on a PowerPC G4 with jessie installed, up-to-date.
Avian is only available in unstable ... it didn't work for me either, same
result you got.
For Zero,
clojure ... 70 sec to first prompt, 2 sec on first operation, fast on repeat.
scala ... 5 sec to first prompt, 55
I downloaded one on Aug 8 from the weekly-builds folder, it looks like
daily-builds is out of business.
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/powerpc/iso-cd/
It didn't have that problem, but still had the iso-scan problem I reported
earlier. I did get an install after working around t
iags
> diag-file
> input-devicekbd
> output-device screen
> oem-banner
> oem-logo
> nvramrc
> boot-commandbegin ['] boot catch 500 ms cr again
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> >AFAIK, /dev/input/mice is the correct node for
> all powerpc mice. You
> >
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the correct node for all powerpc mice. You
might try
cd /dev
./MAKEDEV input
That should at least create the device. Hopefully, someone else will
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On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 07:10:26AM -0500, Media 100 wrote:
> Chris Tillman wrote:
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> > Use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 -- although I'm not sure that was
> > available in potato. Also, woody's xfree 86 has much better support
> > for powerpc hardware, so
promt: install-safe
> /dev/hda: hda=noautotune but nothing again
> can anybody help me?
> Thank's
I think the kernel you are using can't see the hard drive. The kernels
available in Debian right now don't work on the most recent G4's. The
kernel tree has been
though I'm not sure that was
available in potato. Also, woody's xfree 86 has much better support
for powerpc hardware, so it might be a better idea to just upgrade
now. That will straighten out a lot of problems.
When you do configure the mouse, you want the /dev/input/mice device, and
imPS/2 should work as the protocol.
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in keyboard_sends_linux_keycodes mode, you'd have to recompile it to
put it back into ADB mode. Using ADB keycodes is deprecated.
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, that would be great.
For the keyboard issue,
http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/keycodes
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aboot.conf to /target/etc/yaboot.conf
for your future workign system.
You can use mkofboot with the -b option to tell it exactly where your
bootstrap partition is. That should avoid any worries with the drive
letters. If mkofboot doesn't complain, you should be in good shape.
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network? (using my ethernet port)
There is a section in the install manual on installing from
an existing Linux system, using debootstrap.
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It will boot a MacOS system CD; the boot-floppies CDs are not
bootable on this machine.
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initialized:
cd /dev
mknod hda21 b 3 21
chgrp disk hda21
chmod 660 hda21
Booting into the new system will fail unless proper devices are present
on the target system. After installing the kernel and modules, execute:
cd /target/dev
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set your Linux
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I didn't see any map= entries in man quik.conf, so probably that
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The cdrom drive may actually be
all gnome 2.4 from unstable but I don't really
> want to do that yet.
I had the same problems when I upgraded my testing system recently. It
was unusable. I tried upgrading the gnome components to unstable, and
that didn't help. This really wrecked gnome on my machine, I have yet
to g
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On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 02:40:43PM +0100, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote:
> Am Son, den 16.11.2003 schrieb Bob Hentges um 11:57:
> > On Nov 16, 2003, at 4:18 AM, Chris Tillman wrote:
> > >>> Try copying the ofboot.b file from the CD's install/powermac folder
> > >>
> On Nov 15, 2003, at 9:17 PM, Chris Tillman wrote:
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> >On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 12:10:03PM +0100, Bob Hentges wrote:
> >>Howdy all,
> >>I took the decision little more than a week ago to install Debian on
> >>my
> >>iMac 17''. Now with
y copying the ofboot.b file from the CD's install/powermac folder
onto your hard drive partition. Then in OpenFirmware, type
boot hd:xx,ofboot.b
(Use your partition number in place of xx). This will cause the
Mac to boot from the CD, I hope.
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ytes. After it was finished, I
re-checked with dpkg -s and it was _still_ not installed.
What's going on here?
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> >I'm not sure; but how about using the r command in mac-fdisk to swap
> >some partitions around so the important ones are 15 and under?
> >Or are some of the partitions us
#x27;m not sure; but how about using the r command in mac-fdisk to swap
some partitions around so the important ones are 15 and under?
Or are some of the partitions useless Apple_Driver partitions?
You could delete them.
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Your best bet is
dpkg-reconfigure xfree86-xserver
When you do that, make sure you enter the correct BusID when asked.
If it still doesn't work, then post /var/log/XFree86.0.log.
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Thanks, David! I don't think I've seen this possibility mentioned
anywhere, nor thought of it myself either. For some reason I thought
miBoot wouldn't work from the hard drive.
Basically, you copy the floppy contents into a bootable HFS partition
on the disk. One could also do this from Linux, even in the installer
environment, I think:
dd if=/dev/fd0 of=/dev/hda2 bs=1024
I'll play around with it a bit on my machines, and then add the idea
in the manual as an option.
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> Any help would be great
Here is the answer:
http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/keycodes
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On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 09:27:28AM +0100, eric b wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Récemment Sun, 26 Oct 2003 20:24:01 -0700
> "Chris Tillman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit:
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> >
> > Does the cdrom seem to mount correctly?
>
> Excuse me, I've forgoten to g
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> Some stranges things are that cdrom is /dev/hda and hard disk /dev/hdc
Does the cdrom seem to mount correctly? Try mounting it ahead of time
using the 'Mount an already initialized partition' item, or check in
console 2 during the install attempt to see if _you_ can see files
under /instmnt .
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On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 10:41:13PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 07:53:56AM -0700, Chris Tillman wrote:
> > The reduced kernel does not seem to boot on the 9500. It
> > produces the small penguin icon and loads from the floppy,
> > then blanks the screen
gt; (it now contains Debain, but I want to repartition it anyway), and try
> booting from there.
>
> I don't have a README or INSTALL file, so am I correct in the above steps to
> take, or do I miss anything?
There's a bunch of stuff in the powerpc install manual you can refer to,
The reduced kernel does not seem to boot on the 9500. It
produces the small penguin icon and loads from the floppy,
then blanks the screen and stops.
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It should ask for a root disk, at which point you'll just have
to reboot for now. We'll need help testing the debian-installer very
soon! Thanks for your contributions.
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de to pick individual
packages.
If you have dpkg running, but it's not registered, yo can use
dpkg --install dpkg
The same logic works with
apt-get --reinstall install apt-get
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#
# CONFIG_CRC32 is not set
CONFIG_ZLIB_INFLATE=y
-CONFIG_ZLIB_DEFLATE=m
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# Kernel hacking
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>
> Could you have a look at this this evening.
I'll see, not too likely to succeed I'm afraid. Any ideas what
options might get me around the ramdisk prompt where it doesn't
accept the Enter key?
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On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 11:03:46AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 09:01:25PM -0700, Chris Tillman wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 05:14:21AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> > > "Chris Tillman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 07:54:37AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
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> > On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 05:14:21AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> > > "Chris Tillman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
&g
(If I'm not mistaken.) Anyway, I don't know if it runs under emulation mode;
probably not, because it never was a 68k app. It _does_ boot the computer,
into Linux ... not sure what you were after.
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On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 05:14:21AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> "Chris Tillman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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> > However, it didn't get much farther when I tried a kernel that did
> > have drivers ... it read the partitions OK, but failed soon
pose this is just because quik doesn't load the ram up ahead of
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should work in
> theory. zImage.initrd or zImage plus a separate initrd (if this is
> possible on your arch) over bootp/dhcp/tftp/whatsoever works.
We definitely need testing in this area.
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rnel to get it to work:
> > CONFIG_NFS_V3=y
> > CONFIG_ROOT_NFS=y
>
> Mmm, making the kernel bigger, not smaller :((
BTW, the quik patch that Ben sent to the list takes away our
quik size worries.
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ibly even many of them,
> one of them being specialized for miboot and its 1.3Mo kernel size
> requirement, and build the kernel udebs from that.
This is the solution that prep used in boot-floppies. It was
problematic to be building kernels within the installer build. I don't
have an
> bootstrap-partition's type from macos or anywhere/anyhow else X^\
>
> Thanks for patience and help/hints in advance.
Yes, probably pdisk for MacOS would let you do this. It is, or was,
available from Eryk Vershun's (sp?) website, or if you can't find it
that way, it
Try OSX. You are correct in suspecting that the OSX upgrade did you
in. There is not a clear idea of how to recover yet, although at
least one person has recovered.
You could also just look at all posts for the last month in a threaded
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> New patch, let me know how it works:
It says,
Starting at 50
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> On 16 Oct, this message from Chris Tillman echoed through cyberspace:
> >> Chris, since you're rebuilding quik :-), maybe you can give this a
> >> try as well?
> >
> > I can; I need to hook up a
= partno + '0';
> +partno &= 0xf;
> +sprintf(bogusdev, "/dev/sda%d", partno);
> filebuffer = buffer;
> filelimit = limit;
> decompress = dogunzip & 1;
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> Chris, since you're rebuilding quik :-), maybe you can give this a tr
On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 03:59:08PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
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> > On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 10:32:35PM -0700, Chris Tillman wrote:
> > > I tested d-i using BootX.
>
> Greate. Your destined to test disk boots f
On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 08:40:13AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
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> > I tested d-i using BootX.
>
> Cool. Tell me again though, there are some oldworld pmacs which can't do
> this and need miboot, right ?
>
Th
On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 09:45:17PM -0700, Chris Tillman wrote:
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> > On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 21:57, Rogério Brito wrote:
> > > On Oct 14 2003, David Röhr wrote:
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> > > I would like to test the ne
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&prom_stdout, sizeof(prom_stdout));
> getpromprop(prom_chosen, "stdin", &prom_stdin, sizeof(prom_stdin));
> +getpromprop(prom_chosen, "mmu", &prom_mmu, sizeof(prom_mmu));
> prom_options = call_prom("finddevice", 1, 1, "/options");
> }
>
> diff -urN quik-2.0e/second/prom.h quik-2.0e-hacked/second/prom.h
> --- quik-2.0e/second/prom.h 2000-03-10 21:59:28.0 +0100
> +++ quik-2.0e-hacked/second/prom.h2003-10-15 21:54:53.0 +0200
> @@ -22,6 +22,6 @@
> int nbgetchar(void);
> void prom_get_chosen(char *name, char *buf, int buflen);
> void prom_get_options(char *name, char *buf, int buflen);
> -void prom_map(unsigned char *addr, unsigned len);
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> void prom_pause(void);
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loppies code is in
http://cvs.debian.org/boot-floppies/utilities/dbootstrap/bootconfig.c
(and a quik mention in partition_config.c also)
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call it with `quik` rather than `mkofboot`.
The scripts are still there in boot-floppies; the piece we haven't
mentioned is using ofpath to figure out how to set the nvram
parameters. What's there works for most people.
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and use hformat to
put a file system on it, maybe MacOS will try to mount it and offer to
initialize it. Then you can just drag the System Folder over to install
MacOS 9.
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t in the right way, otherway I am sorry!)
What is the contents of your yaboot.conf? Do you also have the root.bin
next to yaboot and linux.bin on your disk?
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in /proc/cpu/device-tree
or some similar path to see what your video card path is, and try other
options.
I don't think you need to reformat; I have been able to install Linux
on an external SCSI disk with MacOS on the internal, so you ought to
be able to do vice versa.
> Any suggestions on which strategy to pick are welcome. (Or if you know
> another option, please let me know as well).
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can see what's on it. There are menus for mounting; or in the shell
use mount -t hfs.
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d i havent yet
> found.
I don't think there are many gentoo users around here ... but
you might want to take the dive and just install debian, on which
gentoo is based.
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual
After you get the installer booted, one of the first few steps is
post on this list less than a week ago
(didn't you already search the archives?), the kernel "hasn't survived
contact witha G5 yet". Also, the powerpc kernel developer BenH hasn't
gotten access to a G5 yet, so it's unlikely to work until he does.
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re is a link there to the mac-fdisk help file at penguinppc.org.
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual
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ng time. If we don't have any users out there, we can't support
it. I believe the prep build has been broken in boot-floppies for more
than a year, with no one stepping up to fix it.
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> On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 10:10:52AM -0700, Chris Tillman wrote:
> > On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 01:31:55PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > >
> > > Anyway, please test and give feedback, before i upload, so we can h
On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 07:01:58PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 09:10:59AM -0700, Chris Tillman wrote:
> > On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 01:31:55PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > > Anyway, please test and give feedback, before i upload, so we can have
>
a "Linux Kernel folder"?
When using BootX, the available kernels are stored in the
MacOS System Folder:Linux Kernels: folder.
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and the uname of the kernel is also 2.4.22-powerpc, so they didn't
get loaded. In /boot, the file name is vmlinux-2.4.22-powerpc-pmac .
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orld pmac,
using BootX. I needed to un-check the no-video-driver checkbox,
as I have noted before with other 2.4 kernels.
I will try booting it with quik, but I rather doubt it will
work, because of its size.
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> Errors were encountered while processing:
> base-config
> libtextwrap1
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> AmigaONE:~#
>
Sometimes you get these kind of errors if your disk is full.
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I'm planning to set this up in a cron job, because otherwise my
mailbox fills up as you said. I also gave my ISP an earfull for
not affering any server side solutions.
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7; down the cable a bit to make sure the pins are solidly
> connected; no good.
Weighting is probably not the way to go. But it's quite likely
there could be some oxidation on the 6500's connector pins. This
might be helped by simply plugging and unplugging the cable, say
100 times, to rub through the oxidation layer.
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ix-speak. :)
This is the hard way to go for your first installation. Do have a few
hundred meg available on an ide drive?
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quik; but
the situation is explained in the install manual:
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/powerpc/install
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If you see a must-have in unstable, install it using apt-get -t unstable,
and it will draw in only the dependencies it needs without making your
whole system 'unstable'.
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manually booting directly
from the hard disk. If that works and direct booting still doesn't, at
least you have a way to get in to your system. Instead of booting the
root.bin ramdisk, you might be able change that yaboot.conf to boot
your kernel on hda11, or still boot the kernel from the hfs
On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 08:36:45AM +1000, Michael Lake wrote:
> Chris Tillman wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 09:27:19PM +1000, Michael Lake wrote:
> >>ummm about reconfiguring yaboot?? How does one do that when you are in a
> >>shell from booting from an insta
-t proc proc /proc
ybin -v
exit
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, yaboot, yaboot.conf, net-initrd.gz) on an hfs partition
and then pointing OpenFirmware to them directly:
boot hd:10,yaboot
Will the net-initrd.gz work in this case?
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y?
>
> (MacOS is known to do weird things to the aty PCI config at least. Maybe
> there's some other issues ...)
The Debian floppy is a simulated MacOS floppy which loads Linux
instead of MacOS. I'd bet PCI configs are not set up by the MacOS
simulation, but I'm not positive.
ple here, but have not heard the results.
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ssue for a fileserver.
The only other ones I can think to try is video=ofonly,
or no video= at all.
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ting however, I could have used nvsetenv
> much earlier to reset the output and input device.
We stayed away from nvsetenv because we couldn't attempt to cover all
the ways it could be used. But I agree, a mention would be useful; I
added one in CVS.
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On Tue, Sep 16, 2003 at 08:16:43PM +0200, Joachim Franek wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 16. September 2003 15:22 schrieb Chris Tillman:
>
> > I have also had another machine (a 604;9500) boot without video
> > output, when trying to boot a 2.4 kernel, but have not heard of
> > a
604e
> clock : 170MHz
> revision 2.2
> maschine: Power Macintosh
> motherboard: AAPL, MacRISC
> L2 cash: 512k unified
> memory: 208MB
> mac-generation: OldWorld
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Is there someone who uses a pulsar with linux?
>
> Greetings,
> Joachim
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irculate through the list
of images defined in the conf file.
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d also be helpful to know what model machine this is,
like the output of cat /proc/pci and cat /proc/cpuinfo from
within an installer shell.
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