Re: AmigaOne or Pegasos for a smallish server?

2003-06-19 Thread Claas Langbehn
hello! the ibook 500 is also kind of fanless. it has one, but it was never on wihin the last 2 years And I also had one ibook 700, which only used it twice (for about 4-5 seconds) within 10 days. Not so bad. But the 800/900 machines do use it quite often , i think. Maybe that's also related to

Fan on Macs (was: Re: AmigaOne or Pegasos for a smallish server?)

2003-06-19 Thread Rogério Brito
On Jun 19 2003, Claas Langbehn wrote: the ibook 500 is also kind of fanless. it has one, but it was never on wihin the last 2 years Wow. You mean the iBook has a fan? Where is it? I have an iBook 600, late 2001 and I think that I have never heard any fan, even when

Re: Fan on Macs (was: Re: AmigaOne or Pegasos for a smallish server?)

2003-06-19 Thread Jesús Roncero
On Friday 20 June 2003 00:21, Rogério Brito wrote: Wow. You mean the iBook has a fan? Where is it? I have an iBook 600, late 2001 and I think that I have never heard any fan, even when decoding things in xine (and dropping frames :-( ). I have a 800Mhz ibook and it certanly has

Re: AmigaOne or Pegasos for a smallish server?

2003-06-18 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 07:34:31PM +0200, Ole-Egil Hvitmyren wrote: Sven Luther wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 10:37:32PM +0200, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra wrote: I don't expect it to do any graphics: what I want is a free (as in speech), silent, energy-efficient,

Re: AmigaOne or Pegasos for a smallish server?

2003-06-18 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 08:42:31PM +0200, Rose Humphrey wrote: Le mar 17/06/2003 à 10:44, Sven Luther a écrit : Do you think it production-stable for a server? Don't know about the Pegasos, but the AmigaOne has and is being fairly rigourously tested as a server : Samba, web, mail etc,

Re: AmigaOne or Pegasos for a smallish server?

2003-06-18 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 10:12:51PM +0200, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra wrote: On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 10:44:28 +0200, Sven Luther wrote: crossbar memory architecture. That said, some of the pegasos boards may still be findable in some retailer as i heard. Tried Relec.ch, no

Re: AmigaOne or Pegasos for a smallish server?

2003-06-18 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra
On Wed, 18 Jun 2003 11:52:17 +0200, Sven Luther wrote: Yep, the G3 600MHz is fanless :))), too bad it is only a 750Cxe, and not the better 750Fx, which should run cooler yet at higher speeds. Yet the Apple Cube was a fanless G4... granted it had a special non-standard physical layout,

Re: AmigaOne or Pegasos for a smallish server?

2003-06-18 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra
On Wed, 18 Jun 2003 11:58:43 +0200, Sven Luther wrote: Anyway one of my partners here in Switzerland has a strong prejudice against relying on French companies, as he had bad enough experiences in the near past. And that's not chauvinism, as he is French himself. Well, Genesi is a

Re: AmigaOne or Pegasos for a smallish server?

2003-06-18 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Wed, 18 Jun 2003, [iso-8859-1] Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra wrote: On Wed, 18 Jun 2003 11:58:43 +0200, Sven Luther wrote: Well, Genesi is a Luxembourgian companies, and the boards are manufactured in Germany by ex Phase5 people. Great, that will be an argument!

Re: AmigaOne or Pegasos for a smallish server?

2003-06-18 Thread Rogério Brito
On Jun 18 2003, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra wrote: Yet the Apple Cube was a fanless G4... granted it had a special non-standard physical layout, but after so much time it should be possible to make a fanless G4. I would be the first in the queue for such a system -- if I had

Re: AmigaOne or Pegasos for a smallish server?

2003-06-17 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 10:37:32PM +0200, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra wrote: On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 09:44:43 +0200, Sven Luther wrote: Well, the pegasos boards are mostly outsold Too bad. Or too good? Well, there were not that many produced, due to the before mentioned

Re: AmigaOne or Pegasos for a smallish server?

2003-06-17 Thread Ole-Egil Hvitmyren
Sven Luther wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 10:37:32PM +0200, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra wrote: I don't expect it to do any graphics: what I want is a free (as in speech), silent, energy-efficient, beautiful server. It will do Samba Well, a G3 altough somewhat slower than

Re: AmigaOne or Pegasos for a smallish server?

2003-06-17 Thread Rose Humphrey
Le mar 17/06/2003 à 10:44, Sven Luther a écrit : Do you think it production-stable for a server? Don't know about the Pegasos, but the AmigaOne has and is being fairly rigourously tested as a server : Samba, web, mail etc, all apps which Sven accurately points out as being perfectly happy

Re: AmigaOne or Pegasos for a smallish server?

2003-06-17 Thread Ole-Egil Hvitmyren
Rose Humphrey wrote: Le mar 17/06/2003 à 10:44, Sven Luther a écrit : They will survive, at least the chances are greater for Genesi to survive than for Amiga. Tssst tssst, what were you saying about FUD? (I'd still like to see the Pegasos II tested for a while before recommending one

Re: AmigaOne or Pegasos for a smallish server?

2003-06-17 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 10:44:28 +0200, Sven Luther wrote: crossbar memory architecture. That said, some of the pegasos boards may still be findable in some retailer as i heard. Tried Relec.ch, no answer yet. Try contacting Genesi directly. No need, Relec answered. Now it is

Re: AmigaOne or Pegasos for a smallish server?

2003-06-17 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 21:48:12 +0200, Ole-Egil Hvitmyren wrote: Rose Humphrey wrote: And I'll still be selling them :-p Even to Swiss people, right? ;-) Or rather Brazilians in Switzerland... if I do get my visa renewed! -- _ / \ Leandro Guimares Faria Corsetti Dutra +41

Re: AmigaOne or Pegasos for a smallish server?

2003-06-16 Thread Rose Humphrey
Le lun 16/06/2003 à 01:02, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra a écrit : I want to setup a server with Debian and Samba for a dozen MS Windows 95 to XP clients. Would like to have some growth space as the clients might become X terminals in the future, and use other services as web

Re: AmigaOne or Pegasos for a smallish server?

2003-06-16 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 01:02:35AM +0200, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra wrote: I want to setup a server with Debian and Samba for a dozen MS Windows 95 to XP clients. Would like to have some growth space as the clients might become X terminals in the future, and use other

Re: AmigaOne or Pegasos for a smallish server?

2003-06-16 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 09:12:44AM +0200, Rose Humphrey wrote: Le lun 16/06/2003 à 01:02, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra a écrit : I want to setup a server with Debian and Samba for a dozen MS Windows 95 to XP clients. Would like to have some growth space as the clients

Re: AmigaOne or Pegasos for a smallish server?

2003-06-16 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 09:12:44 +0200, Rose Humphrey wrote: Le lun 16/06/2003 01:02, Leandro Guimares Faria Corsetti Dutra a crit : Currently your best bet is the AmigaOne (Teron PX), simply because there's a lot more emphasis on making it into a viable Linux server/desktop. Plus Yet

Re: AmigaOne or Pegasos for a smallish server?

2003-06-16 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 10:59:11AM +0200, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra wrote: On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 09:12:44 +0200, Rose Humphrey wrote: Le lun 16/06/2003 à 01:02, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra a écrit : Currently your best bet is the AmigaOne (Teron PX), simply

Re: AmigaOne or Pegasos for a smallish server?

2003-06-16 Thread Ole-Egil Hvitmyren
Leandro Guimares Faria Corsetti Dutra wrote: On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 09:12:44 +0200, Rose Humphrey wrote: Le lun 16/06/2003 01:02, Leandro Guimares Faria Corsetti Dutra a crit : Currently your best bet is the AmigaOne (Teron PX), simply because there's a lot more emphasis on making it into a

Re: AmigaOne or Pegasos for a smallish server?

2003-06-16 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 09:44:43 +0200, Sven Luther wrote: Well, the pegasos boards are mostly outsold Too bad. Or too good? and the new pegasos II boards arriving in september should be much better Too late (I hope, for the good of my project). crossbar memory

AmigaOne or Pegasos for a smallish server?

2003-06-15 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra
I want to setup a server with Debian and Samba for a dozen MS Windows 95 to XP clients. Would like to have some growth space as the clients might become X terminals in the future, and use other services as web cache, fax server etc. Obviously I'd like to have a small SCSI RAID