On Fri, 10 Jun 2005, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
On Thu, 2005-06-09 at 21:04 +0200, Jrmy Bobbio wrote:
On Thursday 09 June 2005 07:55, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
It would be definitely useful for others to start grasping a bit
about how the PowerMac hardware works ;) I could use help in
On Thu, 09 Jun 2005 09:14:20 +1000
Benjamin Herrenschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No, I'm not. First of all, this kit is only a lease, you have to send
it back, then, it's only a ordinary peecee, probably very different
from whatever apple will come up ultimately, and finally, I'm not
sure
Mike S wrote:
I am totally confused on this, is the new mac gonna have an x86 chip
in it, or is intel going to make a newly designed chip?
They'll use x86 chips.
And for people who also run the mac os (like me) by a universal
binary, is that code that is not dependent on the processor, but
Hi Johannes,
I am totally confused on this, is the new mac gonna have an x86 chip
in it, or is intel going to make a newly designed chip?
They'll use x86 chips.
Steve Jobs was talking about the future Intel roadmap. Probably you
mean that they will use chips within the x86 family, even if
Johannes Berg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Mike S wrote:
And is this basically going to be like when mac switched from the
68k to the PowerPC Chip, where the PPC chip ran stuff from 68k,
I don't think they'll add a ppc emulator, so probably no.
There is an emulator.
On Thu, 9 Jun 2005, Johannes Berg wrote:
Mike S wrote:
And for people who also run the mac os (like me) by a universal binary, is
that code that is not dependent on the processor, but on the os? So like it
would run on either a ppc mac or the new one, as long as they have the mac
os?
No.
On Thu, 2005-06-09 at 13:33 +0200, Alex Fernandez wrote:
Steve Jobs was talking about the future Intel roadmap. Probably you
mean that they will use chips within the x86 family, even if the chips
themselves are new. I guess Apple will not go back to 32 bits now, so
I would bet for the x86_64
On Thursday 09 June 2005 07:55, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
It would be definitely useful for others to start grasping a bit
about how the PowerMac hardware works ;) I could use help in many
places there.
Do you have any pointers, reference pages or books to recommend?
Most OS websites are
On Thu, 9 Jun 2005, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
It would be definitely useful for others to start grasping a bit about
how the PowerMac hardware works ;) I could use help in many places
there.
regarding this, some time ago I sent you an email, but got no reply... is
your email [EMAIL
On Thu, 2005-06-09 at 16:21 -0400, Rolando Abarca wrote:
On Thu, 9 Jun 2005, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
It would be definitely useful for others to start grasping a bit about
how the PowerMac hardware works ;) I could use help in many places
there.
regarding this, some time ago I
On Thu, 2005-06-09 at 21:04 +0200, Jrmy Bobbio wrote:
On Thursday 09 June 2005 07:55, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
It would be definitely useful for others to start grasping a bit
about how the PowerMac hardware works ;) I could use help in many
places there.
Do you have any pointers,
On Thu, 2005-06-09 at 13:33 +0200, Alex Fernandez wrote:
Hi Johannes,
I am totally confused on this, is the new mac gonna have an x86 chip
in it, or is intel going to make a newly designed chip?
They'll use x86 chips.
Steve Jobs was talking about the future Intel roadmap. Probably
And, even though Macs are quite possibly the most visible use of PPC chips,
the embedded market uses it, AFAIK. Understanding how the architecture
works would be mostly welcome and a brand new kind of developers could be
created to help you with smaller issues where you won't want to waste
On Jun 10 2005, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
I suppose I could still try to write a document giving an overview of how
the thing is setup.
I suppose that a document would have a much more long-lasting effect than a
talk and would also be able to reach people that aren't able to attend
Hi,
http://developer.apple.com/transitionkit.html
Looks like hackers can get an x86 Apple machine right now, if they fork
$999.
I guess Ben's employer may not really want to provide that to him :-/
Maybe we users can re-do a distributed donation to Benh, if he's
interested in making Linux work
IBM, hopefully. Otherwise we will be left to hacking XBoxes and Playstations. :(
On 6/8/05, Gabriel Paubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 11:53:32AM +0200, Colin Leroy wrote:
Hi,
http://developer.apple.com/transitionkit.html
Looks like hackers can get an x86 Apple
OoO En cette fin de matinée radieuse du mercredi 08 juin 2005, vers
11:53, Colin Leroy [EMAIL PROTECTED] disait:
Looks like hackers can get an x86 Apple machine right now, if they fork
$999.
I guess Ben's employer may not really want to provide that to him :-/
Maybe we users can re-do a
On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 11:56:52 +0200
Vincent Bernat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The hardware may just be a classic PC and differ from what Apple will
really ship in one year.
Right, that's possible. Perhaps people getting it will tell more about
the hardware soon...
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Colin
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On Wednesday 08 June 2005 11:53, Colin Leroy wrote:
Looks like hackers can get an x86 Apple machine right now, if they fork
$999.
Well, I'd personally pay the full amount to get everything working on my
current powerbook. If there's any funding, we should maybe concentrate on the
current
Hi Colin
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 11:53:32AM +0200, Colin Leroy wrote:
Hi,
http://developer.apple.com/transitionkit.html
Looks like hackers can get an x86 Apple machine right now, if they fork
$999.
I guess Ben's employer may not really want to provide that to him :-/
Maybe we users
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 12:28:13PM +0200, Alex Fernandez wrote:
IBM, hopefully. Otherwise we will be left to hacking XBoxes and Playstations.
:(
I will only believe it when I see it. And the critical word
in my question is affordable, not at $1 a pop. I don't
have very high hopes.
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 03:15:17PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
Hi Colin
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 11:53:32AM +0200, Colin Leroy wrote:
Hi,
http://developer.apple.com/transitionkit.html
Looks like hackers can get an x86 Apple machine right now, if they fork
$999.
I guess
On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 11:53 +0200, Colin Leroy wrote:
Hi,
http://developer.apple.com/transitionkit.html
Looks like hackers can get an x86 Apple machine right now, if they fork
$999.
I guess Ben's employer may not really want to provide that to him :-/
Maybe we users can re-do a
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 11:53:32AM +0200, Colin Leroy spake thus:
[...]
http://developer.apple.com/transitionkit.html
Looks like hackers can get an x86 Apple machine right now, if they fork
$999.
[...]
Be aware:
1.) You have to return this unit at the end of 2006; it has not been
Barry Hawkins wrote:
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 11:53:32AM +0200, Colin Leroy spake thus:
[...]
http://developer.apple.com/transitionkit.html
Looks like hackers can get an x86 Apple machine right now, if they fork
$999.
[...]
Be aware:
1.) You have to return this unit at the end of
On Jun 09 2005, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
I'm not sure at all that I will continue maintaining linux support on x86
based Macs. I'm not really motivated at this point.
Ok, the next question then: are you still motivated to maintain the PPC
based Macs or did you loose the interest given the
On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 23:59 -0300, Rogrio Brito wrote:
On Jun 09 2005, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
I'm not sure at all that I will continue maintaining linux support on x86
based Macs. I'm not really motivated at this point.
Ok, the next question then: are you still motivated to maintain
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