Re: mozilla - 5 processes using 149Mb

2001-06-20 Thread Andrew Sharp
Alan Macdougall wrote: > > On 17/6/01 at 1:45 AM, Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Typing "mozilla" at the command line seems to > > > cause 5 separate processes to be started, > > > taking in total 149Mb of memory (accorting to > > > gtop). Given that I only have 64Mb of real RAM

Re: mozilla - 5 processes using 149Mb

2001-06-19 Thread Adam C Powell IV
Ethan Benson wrote: On Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 09:18:21PM +1200, Alan Macdougall wrote: Vital stats: Pwer Macintosh 7600/200MHz/64Mb running Woody. Mozilla 0.9 seems a bit of a hog. (This is build 2001052403 downloaded from Ethan's penguinppc repository.) Typing "mozilla" at the command line s

Re: mozilla - 5 processes using 149Mb

2001-06-19 Thread Michael Schmitz
> >You seem to be building a lot of stuff anyway, how about applying as > >Debian maintainer so your work can go into the distribution proper? > > > > Well, I've been thinking about it, but I don't have a clue where to > begin, and I don't have gpg configured. I'll probably be meeting some http

Re: mozilla - 5 processes using 149Mb

2001-06-19 Thread Bastien Nocera
Michael Schmitz wrote: galeon is in sid/non-US now. For i386 anyway, I'll probably build it on my Pismo soon but I can't upload until my new key is signed and in the ring. They'll also be there in a second, built from Robot101's official Galeon packages: http://hadess.net/debian/galeon/ Yo

Re: mozilla - 5 processes using 149Mb

2001-06-19 Thread Josh Huber
Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> That said, there are unofficial debs available from the galeon site, i think >> i >> remember, you could build those if you really needed to. > > they suck, those WILL pollute your clean debian install. > > a crappy .deb is far worse then a make ins

Re: mozilla - 5 processes using 149Mb

2001-06-19 Thread Ethan Benson
On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 01:13:46PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote: > > ./configure > > make > > su -c 'make install' > > And pollute my clean debian install, on way, ... bullshit, read me message again, galeon installs cleanly into /usr/local <- see the local part? it will not interfere with the p

Re: mozilla - 5 processes using 149Mb

2001-06-19 Thread Michael Schmitz
> > galeon is in sid/non-US now. For i386 anyway, I'll probably build it on my > > Pismo soon but I can't upload until my new key is signed and in the ring. > > > They'll also be there in a second, built from Robot101's official Galeon > packages: > http://hadess.net/debian/galeon/ You seem to be

Re: mozilla - 5 processes using 149Mb

2001-06-19 Thread R.
On 19 Jun 2001 13:36:59 +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: > Sven LUTHER wrote: > > > > On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 02:46:41PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 04:30:15PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote: > > > > > > > > But there is no galeon debian package, isn't it ? I know there are > > >

Re: mozilla - 5 processes using 149Mb

2001-06-19 Thread Michel Dänzer
Michel Dänzer wrote: > > Sven LUTHER wrote: > > > > galeon is in sid/non-US now. For i386 anyway, I'll probably build it on > > > my Pismo soon but I can't upload until my new key is signed and in the > > > ring. > > > > Wasn't there yesterday ... or else i must be going blind. > > Yesterday is

Re: mozilla - 5 processes using 149Mb

2001-06-19 Thread Michel Dänzer
Sven LUTHER wrote: > > galeon is in sid/non-US now. For i386 anyway, I'll probably build it on my > > Pismo soon but I can't upload until my new key is signed and in the ring. > > Wasn't there yesterday ... or else i must be going blind. Yesterday is past, and I get sid directly from http.us.deb

Re: mozilla - 5 processes using 149Mb

2001-06-19 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 01:36:59PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: > Sven LUTHER wrote: > > > > On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 02:46:41PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 04:30:15PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote: > > > > > > > > But there is no galeon debian package, isn't it ? I know ther

Re: mozilla - 5 processes using 149Mb

2001-06-19 Thread Michel Dänzer
Sven LUTHER wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 02:46:41PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 04:30:15PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote: > > > > > > But there is no galeon debian package, isn't it ? I know there are > > > unnofficial packages though, the galeon guys distribute them i

Re: mozilla - 5 processes using 149Mb

2001-06-19 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 01:16:03PM +0200, Eric Deveaud wrote: > On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, Sven LUTHER wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 02:46:41PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 04:30:15PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote: > > > > there should be a galeon package in non-US any tim

Re: mozilla - 5 processes using 149Mb

2001-06-19 Thread Eric Deveaud
On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, Sven LUTHER wrote: > On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 02:46:41PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 04:30:15PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote: > > there should be a galeon package in non-US any time now that mozilla > > is packaged. having said that you don't NEED a deb

Re: mozilla - 5 processes using 149Mb

2001-06-19 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 02:46:41PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 04:30:15PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote: > > > > But there is no galeon debian package, isn't it ? I know there are > > unnofficial > > packages though, the galeon guys distribute them i think, but no official > >

Re: mozilla - 5 processes using 149Mb

2001-06-19 Thread Michael Schmitz
> > But there is no galeon debian package, isn't it ? I know there are > > unnofficial > > packages though, the galeon guys distribute them i think, but no official > > debian packages. skipstone is nice though. (Still eating 20MB though, if i > > read top correctly, but then ram is cheap :))) > >

Re: mozilla - 5 processes using 149Mb

2001-06-18 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 09:31:48AM -0600, Jason E. Stewart wrote: > Thanks Ethan for the debs, they are a pretty significant improvement > over 0.9. > > Only thing I've found that ticks me off, is I can't log into > SourceForge. When I get to http://sourceforge.net/account/login.php > and type my

Re: mozilla - 5 processes using 149Mb

2001-06-18 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 04:30:15PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote: > > But there is no galeon debian package, isn't it ? I know there are unnofficial > packages though, the galeon guys distribute them i think, but no official > debian packages. skipstone is nice though. (Still eating 20MB though, if i >

Re: mozilla - 5 processes using 149Mb

2001-06-18 Thread Michel Dänzer
Josh Huber wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason E. Stewart) writes: > > > Aww, man, what a drag. PSM was in the 0.9 debs, wasn't it? Is there a > > separate non-us package that makes them available? > > it's just been split: > > apt-get install mozilla-psm > > :) Oh my... that's what I get for

Re: mozilla - 5 processes using 149Mb

2001-06-18 Thread Jason E. Stewart
"Josh Huber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason E. Stewart) writes: > > > Aww, man, what a drag. PSM was in the 0.9 debs, wasn't it? Is there a > > separate non-us package that makes them available? > > it's just been split: > > apt-get install mozilla-psm > > :) Oh thanky

Re: mozilla - 5 processes using 149Mb

2001-06-18 Thread Josh Huber
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason E. Stewart) writes: > Aww, man, what a drag. PSM was in the 0.9 debs, wasn't it? Is there a > separate non-us package that makes them available? it's just been split: apt-get install mozilla-psm :) -- Josh Huber | [EMAIL PROTECTED] |

Re: mozilla - 5 processes using 149Mb

2001-06-18 Thread Jason E. Stewart
"Michel Dänzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "Jason E. Stewart" wrote: > > > > Thanks Ethan for the debs, they are a pretty significant improvement > > over 0.9. > > > > Only thing I've found that ticks me off, is I can't log into > > SourceForge. When I get to http://sourceforge.net/account/lo

Re: mozilla - 5 processes using 149Mb

2001-06-18 Thread Michel Dänzer
"Jason E. Stewart" wrote: > > Thanks Ethan for the debs, they are a pretty significant improvement > over 0.9. > > Only thing I've found that ticks me off, is I can't log into > SourceForge. When I get to http://sourceforge.net/account/login.php > and type my login/password, and hit the 'Login wi

Re: mozilla - 5 processes using 149Mb

2001-06-18 Thread Jason E. Stewart
Thanks Ethan for the debs, they are a pretty significant improvement over 0.9. Only thing I've found that ticks me off, is I can't log into SourceForge. When I get to http://sourceforge.net/account/login.php and type my login/password, and hit the 'Login with SSL' button, nothing happens Anyo

Re: mozilla - 5 processes using 149Mb

2001-06-18 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 05:07:47AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 02:49:22PM +0200, David N. Welton wrote: > > > I think the missing information this person wants to know is that > > under linux, threads get seperate pid's. It's in the manual, but > > finding the right manua

Re: mozilla - 5 processes using 149Mb

2001-06-18 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 02:49:22PM +0200, David N. Welton wrote: > I think the missing information this person wants to know is that > under linux, threads get seperate pid's. It's in the manual, but > finding the right manual might not always be easy. So anyway, to > answer the question, yes, t

Re: mozilla - 5 processes using 149Mb

2001-06-18 Thread David N. Welton
Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > The Gnome System Monitor help docs say: "No two processes will > > have the same number." Therefore my assumption that the five lines > > I was seeing in gtop were separate processes was perhaps > > reasonable, given that they all had different PIDs. T

Re: mozilla - 5 processes using 149Mb

2001-06-18 Thread Steven Hanley
On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 10:29:38PM +1200, Alan Macdougall wrote: > On 17/6/01 at 1:45 AM, Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Typing "mozilla" at the command line seems to > > > cause 5 separate processes to be started, > > > taking in total 149Mb of memory (accorting to > > > gtop). G

Re: mozilla - 5 processes using 149Mb

2001-06-18 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 10:29:38PM +1200, Alan Macdougall wrote: > > I'm still confused, even after RTFM (very old-skool). There's obviously > no hope. :-) read the mozilla FAQ. people only ask this question every time they look at some linux process viewer and not understand what they are looki

Re: mozilla - 5 processes using 149Mb

2001-06-18 Thread Alan Macdougall
On 17/6/01 at 1:45 AM, Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Typing "mozilla" at the command line seems to > > cause 5 separate processes to be started, > > taking in total 149Mb of memory (accorting to > > gtop). Given that I only have 64Mb of real RAM > > and 50Mb of swap it doesn't take m

Re: mozilla - 5 processes using 149Mb

2001-06-18 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 09:56:54AM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: > Ethan Benson wrote: > > > > On Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 11:09:11AM -0700, Taro Fukunaga wrote: > > > > > > As for Flash, I'm not sure... > > > > there is a free software flash plugin that works with mozilla on > > freshmeat, just do a s

Re: mozilla - 5 processes using 149Mb

2001-06-18 Thread Michel Dänzer
Ethan Benson wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 11:09:11AM -0700, Taro Fukunaga wrote: > > > > As for Flash, I'm not sure... > > there is a free software flash plugin that works with mozilla on > freshmeat, just do a search for `flash' and you should find it. Define 'works'. I've only seen it ki

Re: mozilla - 5 processes using 149Mb

2001-06-17 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 11:09:11AM -0700, Taro Fukunaga wrote: > > As for Flash, I'm not sure... there is a free software flash plugin that works with mozilla on freshmeat, just do a search for `flash' and you should find it. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpZcpXIIh3r3.pg

Re: mozilla - 5 processes using 149Mb

2001-06-17 Thread Taro Fukunaga
Hi, Use the JDK from here: http://penguinppc.org/usr/java/ I built mozilla 0.9.1 myself and put a symlink to /usr/local/j2sdk1.3.0/jre/plugin/ppc/javaplugin.so in /usr/local/mozilla-0.9.1/bin/plugins As for Flash, I'm not sure... -- Taro Artur Gorniak wrote: is there java-vm for mozill

Re: mozilla - 5 processes using 149Mb

2001-06-17 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 09:18:21PM +1200, Alan Macdougall wrote: > Vital stats: Pwer Macintosh 7600/200MHz/64Mb running Woody. > > Mozilla 0.9 seems a bit of a hog. (This is build 2001052403 downloaded > from Ethan's penguinppc repository.) > > Typing "mozilla" at the command line seems to cause

Re: mozilla - 5 processes using 149Mb

2001-06-17 Thread Artur Gorniak
is there java-vm for mozilla? I'm trying to use kaffe. Just started.. Tried to use java-2 from netscape but it's not installing.. Of course I do this in next few hours diffrent way but first I want to know if there is flash, java aso. for this platform. Artur Górniak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- ADV:

mozilla - 5 processes using 149Mb

2001-06-17 Thread Alan Macdougall
Vital stats: Pwer Macintosh 7600/200MHz/64Mb running Woody. Mozilla 0.9 seems a bit of a hog. (This is build 2001052403 downloaded from Ethan's penguinppc repository.) Typing "mozilla" at the command line seems to cause 5 separate processes to be started, taking in total 149Mb of memory (accorti