On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 01:24:17 +0200
Frank Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Could you send me what you have? (Just reply this time. :) I'd be
interested to see it.
You did receive my messages, didn't you ?
(Because most of the time when people have a list name in their address,
they also filter
On Monday 25 August 2003 11:23, Simon Vallet wrote:
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 01:24:17 +0200
Frank Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Could you send me what you have? (Just reply this time. :) I'd be
interested to see it.
You did receive my messages, didn't you ?
(Because most of the time when
Le Sat, Aug 23, 2003 at 01:34:08 +0200, Michel Dänzer a écrit:
On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 09:55, Frank Murphy wrote:
This should be interesting to anyone with an Apple laptop with the
mimized
keyboard apple(laptop). It's also mildly interesting to anyone with an
Apple desktop keyboard
Le Sat, Aug 23, 2003 at 18:25:08 +0200, Michel Dänzer a écrit:
On Sat, 2003-08-23 at 13:49, Frank Murphy wrote:
On Saturday 23 August 2003 1:34, Michel Dänzer wrote:
On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 09:55, Frank Murphy wrote:
[...] the attached patch. Tell me what you think about it, it works
Le Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 00:53:27 +0100, Ken Moffat a écrit:
On Sat, 23 Aug 2003, Frank Murphy wrote:
On Saturday 23 August 2003 6:25, Michel Dänzer wrote:
Don't (some) international Mac keyboards have specific modifications vs.
their PC counterparts though?
I don't think there
Le Sat, Aug 23, 2003 at 20:20:21 +0200, Frank Murphy a écrit:
On Saturday 23 August 2003 7:56, Simon Vallet wrote:
Michel Dänzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But you're saying that the Insert key is also Help? Does that mean that
both are engraved on it, or what is?
Yes : it says inser
On Saturday 23 August 2003 1:34, Michel Dnzer wrote:
On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 09:55, Frank Murphy wrote:
This should be interesting to anyone with an Apple laptop with the
mimized keyboard apple(laptop). It's also mildly interesting to anyone
with an Apple desktop keyboard (though it only
Speaking of bugs, fn+command generates the same keycode as the eject key
in X here, but not in console (showkey shows several keycodes for the
eject key) - maybe related to the keypad equal bug you fixed recently?
Actually, what does fn+command/logo say for you with showkey (-k -s)? It
On Sat, 2003-08-23 at 13:49, Frank Murphy wrote:
On Saturday 23 August 2003 1:34, Michel Dnzer wrote:
On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 09:55, Frank Murphy wrote:
[...] the attached patch. Tell me what you think about it, it works with
I haven't tried it yet, but just looking at it, I have a couple
[Cc'ing to the list]
On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 13:49:58 +0200
Frank Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
to increse that convergence. The keycode/key symbol mapping doesn't look
totally consistient (INS = Help), but I blame that on the PC-keyboard bias.
:)
I'm not sure what you meant here, but on my
On Saturday 23 August 2003 6:25, Michel Dnzer wrote:
On Sat, 2003-08-23 at 13:49, Frank Murphy wrote:
However, I don't want to move the 'extended' or 'laptop' into a
specific macintosh keymap, like you've done here in us.
Why, what's the problem with that? macintosh/us is the basis for all
On Sat, 2003-08-23 at 18:58, Simon Vallet wrote:
[Cc'ing to the list]
On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 13:49:58 +0200
Frank Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The keycode/key symbol mapping doesn't look totally consistient
(INS = Help), but I blame that on the PC-keyboard bias. :)
I'm not sure what
On Saturday 23 August 2003 7:42, Frank Murphy wrote:
On Saturday 23 August 2003 6:25, Michel Dnzer wrote:
BTW, where do you get the Multi_key definition from? Can't seem to
find it here.
What do you mean? Where do I define it (in the apple file)?
No, you don't. Maybe you get it
On 23 Aug 2003 19:27:53 +0200
Michel Dänzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BTW, you probably mean i.e. (latin abbreviation for 'id est', 'that
is'), not e.g. ('exempli gratia', 'for example').
I did ;-)
But you're saying that the Insert key is also Help? Does that mean that
both are engraved on
On Saturday 23 August 2003 6:58, Simon Vallet wrote:
Frank Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
to increse that convergence. The keycode/key symbol mapping doesn't look
totally consistient (INS = Help), but I blame that on the PC-keyboard
bias.
I'm not sure what you meant here, but on my
On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 19:57:28 +0200
Frank Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does your keyboard actually say Insert on the key? If so, we may have to
reconsider what this key should be mapped to.
Yes it does : it says inser and aide (french keyboard)
Mode_switch is used to generate the third-
On Saturday 23 August 2003 7:56, Simon Vallet wrote:
Michel Dänzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But you're saying that the Insert key is also Help? Does that mean that
both are engraved on it, or what is?
Yes : it says inser and aide (french keyboard). inser is smaller and
at the top of the
On 23 Aug 2003 20:06:48 +0200
Michel Dänzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ugh, this gets messier the deeper you dig. My motivation is on a sharp
decline again. You seem to have a good understanding though, care to fix
it once and for all? :)
I was thinking I did, but a recent message made me doubt
On Sat, Aug 23, 2003 at 06:58:44PM +0200, Simon Vallet wrote:
to increse that convergence. The keycode/key symbol mapping doesn't
look totally consistient (INS = Help), but I blame that on the
PC-keyboard bias.
I'm not sure what you meant here, but on my keyboard (Apple extended
II),
On Sat, 2003-08-23 at 19:56, Simon Vallet wrote:
On 23 Aug 2003 19:27:53 +0200
Michel Dnzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just another thought : why bother with the Mode_Switch / Multi-Key ;
you could get a perfectly working keyboard with the ISO_Level3_Shift
First time I hear of this.
On Saturday 23 August 2003 8:08, Simon Vallet wrote:
what I got here is :
key AE01 {type=THREE_LEVEL, [ ampersand, 1, EuroSign ] };
(BTW, X doesn't seem very happy with the 'EuroSign' : what is the correct
alias ?) (and this last mapping is arbitrary : I don't have a third symbol
On Sat, 2003-08-23 at 19:42, Frank Murphy wrote:
On Saturday 23 August 2003 6:25, Michel Dnzer wrote:
On Sat, 2003-08-23 at 13:49, Frank Murphy wrote:
Long-term, I'd actually like to increase the similarities between PC
and Apple keyboards,
macintosh/us could be changed to include
On Saturday 23 August 2003 8:06, Michel Dnzer wrote:
Ugh, this gets messier the deeper you dig. My motivation is on a sharp
decline again. You seem to have a good understanding though, care to fix
it once and for all? :)
We're really close, I think. Someone can deal with ISO_Shift when she
[Sorry again, I'll have to learn how to click Reply all :) ]
On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 20:20:21 +0200
Frank Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Saturday 23 August 2003 7:56, Simon Vallet wrote:
Michel Dänzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But you're saying that the Insert key is also Help? Does that
On Saturday 23 August 2003 8:20, Michael Heironimus wrote:
On Sat, Aug 23, 2003 at 06:58:44PM +0200, Simon Vallet wrote:
As far as an Apple keyboard that has an Insert key beneath the
Delete key, I don't know. Who on this list has an extended keyboard
and can share?
I do :-). Again
On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 20:29:11 +0200
Frank Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Saturday 23 August 2003 8:08, Simon Vallet wrote:
what I got here is :
key AE01 {type=THREE_LEVEL, [ ampersand, 1, EuroSign ] };
(BTW, X doesn't seem very happy with the 'EuroSign' : what is the correct
On Saturday 23 August 2003 8:14, Michel Dnzer wrote:
I'm curious what those rules will look like though, given the problem
below.
...
I think @ is in different places as well, e.g. it's on G on the Swiss
German keyboard.
Yeah. I haven't looked at all the combinations yet. After we've resolved
On Sat, Aug 23, 2003 at 08:44:22PM +0200, Frank Murphy wrote:
My Micro Connectors USB extended keyboard is the same way. Several of
the keys have Mac-standard labels in normal type and PC-standard labels
in small print at the top, just like the Option keys on my PowerBook
have alt in small
On Sat, 23 Aug 2003, Frank Murphy wrote:
On Saturday 23 August 2003 6:25, Michel Dänzer wrote:
Don't (some) international Mac keyboards have specific modifications vs.
their PC counterparts though?
I don't think there are that many. There were some Apple keyboards that had
the Euro
Hi all,
After the long discussions about the needs of the Apple keyboard, especially
the laptops (iBook and PowerBook), I have a new version of the apple symbol
map attached here.
This should be interesting to anyone with an Apple laptop with the mimized
keyboard apple(laptop). It's also
On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 09:55, Frank Murphy wrote:
This should be interesting to anyone with an Apple laptop with the mimized
keyboard apple(laptop). It's also mildly interesting to anyone with an
Apple desktop keyboard (though it only enables the Help key at the moment)
apple(extended).
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