Re: Clarifications

2000-06-11 Thread Jules Bean
[Moved to -project, follow-ups set, I hope] On Sun, Jun 11, 2000 at 11:08:16AM +0100, Martin Keegan wrote: I had thought that the purpose of the `DFSG-free' discriminant was to establish which packages could be distributed without onerous restrictions. It now appears that this pragmatic

Re: Debian is about providing the best free operating system

2000-06-11 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, Jun 12, 2000 at 12:21:22AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Sun, Jun 11, 2000 at 03:31:48PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: Debian is about building the best *free* operatign system This is ridiculous. It's also hyperbole, not all that well argued and not particularly well related to

Re: A Compromise Proposal on GR: Remove non-free

2000-06-11 Thread Marek Habersack
** On Jun 11, John Goerzen scribbled: Bolan Meek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I suggest that the non-free packages be replaced by installer assistants, I would support such a solution as a compromise, and in fact, have already indicated such. As long as Debian does not distribute the

Re: General Resolution: Removing non-free

2000-06-11 Thread Marek Habersack
** On Jun 11, Jeff Licquia scribbled: *I* am not ready to make any guarantees. Most of that isn't software I use. That you don't use those packages doesn't make them unnecessary. It makes it unnecessary for me. I see. So, if you don't use mutt, then you don't care that it would be

Re: General Resolution: Removing non-free

2000-06-11 Thread Colin Walters
"Marek" == Marek Habersack [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Marek No, Debian is obligated to provide *functional* software, Marek that's it. The software should be free, that's the ideal Marek and a goal of this distribution, but the project allows for Marek non-free software which has

Re: General Resolution: Removing non-free

2000-06-11 Thread Marek Habersack
** On Jun 12, Colin Walters scribbled: "Marek" == Marek Habersack [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Marek No, Debian is obligated to provide *functional* software, Marek that's it. The software should be free, that's the ideal Marek and a goal of this distribution, but the project

Re: The proposed GR: catch-22

2000-06-11 Thread Joey Hess
Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: Debian a screen comes up and asks if the user would like access to the non-free sections of Debian and it explains what non-free is. Perhaps this should be enhanced and made more clear if there is confusion. Instead the proposal claims removal is necessary.

Re: Clarifications

2000-06-11 Thread Colin Walters
"Hamish" == Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hamish Let's create the add-ons directory and move contrib and Hamish non-free in there, as Anthony proposed. (I already Hamish seconded that.) That's good enough to show it's not part Hamish of the distribution, but to ensure