Re: agenda for Debian leadership team (a.k.a. Project Scud) meeting on 2005-04-24

2005-04-25 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sun, 24 Apr 2005, Branden Robinson / Debian Project Leader wrote: I realize that a closed meeting is not ideal; I welcome suggestions on how to balance the accountability of the DPL and the leadership team with the necessity of dealing with the occasional sensitive issue in a more discrete

Re: snapshot.debian.net

2005-04-25 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 08:39:55AM +0200, Adrian von Bidder wrote: On Monday 25 April 2005 08.03, Branden Robinson / Debian Project Leader wrote: * establishing a backup site for ``snapshot.debian.net`` I wonder if snapshot shouldn't be promoted to an official debian.*org* service in

Re: Debian Project Leader report for 2005-04-24

2005-04-25 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 01:03:35AM -0500, Branden Robinson / Debian Project Leader wrote: Here is the first of my reports as Debian Project Leader. You may read it in HTML format at: http://people.debian.org/~branden/dpl/reports/2005-04-24.html (First suggestion: set M-F-T appropriately.

Re: agenda for Debian leadership team (a.k.a. Project Scud) meeting on 2005-04-24

2005-04-25 Thread Peter Makholm
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I hope I'm not alone when I say that this confidentiality and seemingly crass Besserwisser tone concerns me. Because I am not experienced with the politics of Debian, this is all I will say. It is not ideal as Branden says. But I prefer closed groups who does some

Re: agenda for Debian leadership team (a.k.a. Project Scud) meeting on 2005-04-24

2005-04-25 Thread Pierre Habouzit
Le Lundi 25 Avril 2005 08:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : I hope I'm not alone when I say that this confidentiality and seemingly crass Besserwisser tone concerns me. Because I am not experienced with the politics of Debian, this is all I will say. the point is, a DPL as a single person, may

Re: snapshot.debian.net

2005-04-25 Thread Martin Schulze
Steve Langasek wrote: On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 08:39:55AM +0200, Adrian von Bidder wrote: On Monday 25 April 2005 08.03, Branden Robinson / Debian Project Leader wrote: * establishing a backup site for ``snapshot.debian.net`` I wonder if snapshot shouldn't be promoted to an official

Re: snapshot.debian.net

2005-04-25 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 11:15:57AM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: The snapshot service is very valuable when it comes to checking older versions of packages. For example, it is a very, very good help for doing security work when older package versions need to be reviewed. Does that include the

Re: snapshot.debian.net

2005-04-25 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 11:15:57AM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: Steve Langasek wrote: On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 08:39:55AM +0200, Adrian von Bidder wrote: On Monday 25 April 2005 08.03, Branden Robinson / Debian Project Leader wrote: * establishing a backup site for

Re: snapshot.debian.net

2005-04-25 Thread Martin Schulze
Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 11:15:57AM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: The snapshot service is very valuable when it comes to checking older versions of packages. For example, it is a very, very good help for doing security work when older package versions need to be

Re: Debian Project Leader report for 2005-04-24

2005-04-25 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 25 Apr 2005, Hamish Moffatt wrote: and users apprised of this central issue. If the release managers see that this report is correlated with a spike in reckless uploads to [...] Just a bit of (hopefully constructive) feedback: I find the above to be quite unnecessarily

Re: snapshot.debian.net

2005-04-25 Thread Andreas Barth
* Jeroen van Wolffelaar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050425 11:40]: On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 11:15:57AM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: The snapshot service is very valuable when it comes to checking older versions of packages. For example, it is a very, very good help for doing security work when

Re: snapshot.debian.net

2005-04-25 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 01:12:43PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: I consider binary packages as extrem useful to check for dependency changes etc, That can be done by having an archive of packages files alone. or for fixing issues in some core packages where you need to take an older version

Re: snapshot.debian.net

2005-04-25 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 01:21:04PM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 01:12:43PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: I consider binary packages as extrem useful to check for dependency changes etc, That can be done by having an archive of packages files alone. or for

Re: Debian Project Leader report for 2005-04-24

2005-04-25 Thread cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)
On Monday 25 April 2005 14:10, Hamish Moffatt wrote: I think the request is ok (and the release managers have requested the same before, quite reasonably). My complaint was Branden's threat: if his email triggers more uploads, he'll stop sending emails. er, no, if it triggers an upload storm,

Re: snapshot.debian.net

2005-04-25 Thread Martin Schulze
Steve Langasek wrote: I wonder if snapshot shouldn't be promoted to an official debian.*org* service in recognition of its value to the project. One concern I have, personally, is over precisely how much value snapshot.d.n provides to the *project*, as opposed to providing value

Re: Debian Project Leader report for 2005-04-24

2005-04-25 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 02:36:35PM +0200, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote: On Monday 25 April 2005 14:10, Hamish Moffatt wrote: I think the request is ok (and the release managers have requested the same before, quite reasonably). My complaint was Branden's threat: if his email triggers

Re: Debian Project Leader report for 2005-04-24

2005-04-25 Thread cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)
On Monday 25 April 2005 15:40, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 02:36:35PM +0200, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote: On Monday 25 April 2005 14:10, Hamish Moffatt wrote: I think the request is ok (and the release managers have requested the same before, quite reasonably). My

Re: snapshot.debian.net

2005-04-25 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ma, 2005-04-25 kello 11:37 +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar kirjoitti: Does that include the binary packages? I'd guess that binary packages are of lesser use because of library and other environmental changes, and it is mainly/exclusively the source packages that are of assistance in this matter.

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Re: snapshot.debian.net

2005-04-25 Thread Adrian von Bidder
I wonder if snapshot shouldn't be promoted to an official debian.*org* service in recognition of its value to the project. Summarizing the discussion so far: (1) drain of funds / should Debian really purchase disk space of that size? (1.4TB, growing and growing...) (2) there is also

Re: snapshot.debian.net

2005-04-25 Thread Andreas Schuldei
On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 10:37:48PM +0200, Adrian von Bidder wrote: I wonder if snapshot shouldn't be promoted to an official debian.*org* service in recognition of its value to the project. Summarizing the discussion so far: [...] an interesting data point would be how much the service is

Re: snapshot.debian.net

2005-04-25 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 03:14:41PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: Steve Langasek wrote: I wonder if snapshot shouldn't be promoted to an official debian.*org* service in recognition of its value to the project. One concern I have, personally, is over precisely how much value

Re: snapshot.debian.net

2005-04-25 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Andreas Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-04-25 13:12]: I consider binary packages as extrem useful to check for dependency changes etc, or for fixing issues in some core packages where you need to take an older version for building a newer one. Also, snapshot.d.net could be used for automated

Re: snapshot.debian.net

2005-04-25 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-04-25 19:58]: Instead, if you really want to set up a European mirror, buy a couple of disks in Japan, ask them folks over there to make a copy, set it up with the same scripts here, rsync it once, and name it snapshot-eu.debian.net. Actually, that's

Re: agenda for Debian leadership team (a.k.a. Project Scud) meeting on 2005-04-24

2005-04-25 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 26 Apr 2005, Michael Banck wrote: I hope I'm not alone when I say that you hiding behind such a laughable email address concerns me. If you want to be part of the Debian community (and posting to -project pretty much indicates that), you should get a real name and email address now.