Re: Debian and professional certifications

2006-05-03 Thread MJ Ray
Gunnar Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] An=EDbal Monsalve Salazar dijo [Tue, May 02, 2006 at 04:40:49PM +1000]: So, the NM process could then be renamed Debian Professional Certification. If you wish to certify somebody as willing to join endless flamewars, to idle around in IRC and devote his time

Re: irc.debian.org

2006-05-03 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 03 May 2006, MJ Ray wrote: Peter Samuelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] One might think private messages are useful in user support, but #debian actually has a channel policy asking users not to send them without permission. [...] So, one might think the current #debian is not actually as

Re: irc.debian.org

2006-05-03 Thread Marco d'Itri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i would be interested in the number of netsplits. do you have a diagram for that, too? No, but empirically it appears to me that OFTC splits at least as often (and is 10 times smaller than freenode). -- ciao, Marco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a

Re: irc.debian.org

2006-05-03 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 01:38:37AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem is that the high amount of disconnection one gets from freenode makes this a pain, especially as it is not clear for clients like irssi when Do you? This is unusual, I have clients connected to

Re: irc.debian.org

2006-05-03 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 03 May 2006, Marco d'Itri wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm in favour as well. I wonder, do you and the other me too people also have a reason to justify switching? Yes I'm tired to have #debian-devel-fr on both networks with less than 30 people on each. The people who are on OFTC

Re: irc.debian.org

2006-05-03 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10643 March 1977, Paul Johnson wrote: or indicating their status with nicknames (which also spams the channel). You also get spammed on IRC whenever someone joins or leaves a channel. Most IRC clients allow those to be switched off. Personally, I happen to like them. s/most/none/. I

Re: irc.debian.org

2006-05-03 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Sun, 2006-04-30 at 19:34 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: I've heard it suggested by a variety of people that we should move the official irc.debian.org alias away from freenode to oftc. I can see that more and more of my own Debian IRC discussions are on oftc, to the extent that I'm

Re: Google summer of code

2006-05-03 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 11:36:52PM +0200, Martin Michlmayr wrote: * Gasper Zejn [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-05-02 22:36]: I intend to apply for Google's summer of code for Debian's I18N infrastructure plan. Is there somebody I should discuss this with or should I just submit the application?

Re: Google summer of code

2006-05-03 Thread Zejn Gasper
On Wednesday 03 May 2006 06:58, Christian Perrier wrote: (keeping CC for the moment. I suggest to keep -project CC'ed as long as the topic is still close to Google Summer of Code) Quoting Martin Michlmayr ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): * Gasper Zejn [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-05-02 22:36]: I intend to

Re: irc.debian.org

2006-05-03 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 04:55:15PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: On Tuesday 02 May 2006 16:19, Wouter Verhelst wrote: As it is, IRC *does* have non-sucking non-graphic clients. If you think people should switch to Jabber, I think you ought to write such a client, not someone who's not

Re: irc.debian.org

2006-05-03 Thread Marco d'Itri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The people who are on Freenode are there because it's irc.debian.org but they don't care if it's Freenode or not. How do you know? I can also understand that some people prefer Freenode for historical reasons but if you try to get the best for Debian, you can only

Re: irc.debian.org

2006-05-03 Thread cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)
On Wednesday 03 May 2006 01:19, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 03:52:33PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: On Tuesday 02 May 2006 08:40, Cord Beermann wrote: Why not move it to Jabber? More people use and know what Jabber is these days than IRC. Jabber doesn't have any

Re: irc.debian.org

2006-05-03 Thread Cord Beermann
Hallo! Du (Paul Johnson) hast geschrieben: Jabber doesn't have any useable non-graphic Clients. So write one or grab one of the existing ones and make it not suck. sorry. out of skills. (beside that that would be on my todo-list the point behind 'rewriting nn') Btw, there was an irssi-plugin

usable console jabber-clients? (was: irc.debian.org)

2006-05-03 Thread Cord Beermann
Hallo! Du (Paul Johnson) hast geschrieben: All the concole Jabber clients I've come across suit me fine. I can't program for a variable that I can't perceive. Name them please, maybe i missed them. Cord -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble?

Re: irc.debian.org

2006-05-03 Thread Jorgen Schaefer
Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 03:52:33PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: On Tuesday 02 May 2006 08:40, Cord Beermann wrote: Why not move it to Jabber? More people use and know what Jabber is these days than IRC. Jabber doesn't have any useable

Re: irc.debian.org

2006-05-03 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 03 May 2006, Marco d'Itri wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The people who are on Freenode are there because it's irc.debian.org but they don't care if it's Freenode or not. How do you know? Because I discussed with them... the initial plan was to move #debian-devel-fr from Freenode

Re: irc.debian.org

2006-05-03 Thread Jorgen Schaefer
Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Right now I'm on those Debian related channels on OFTC: [...] And on Freenode: [...] I'm not advocating Freenode really (I couldn't care less about where any #*debian* channel buffer points, really), but if we list channels on the networks, we should

Re: irc.debian.org

2006-05-03 Thread Joey Hess
Jorgen Schaefer wrote: So, here it goes. Data was collected on 2006-05-03 at around 18:40 CEST: Hmm, you seem to have missed #debian-boot, which is on freenode with some 70 in channel. Also, you missed #debian-security and #debian-release, which are, IIRC, on OFTC. -- see shy jo

Re: irc.debian.org

2006-05-03 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 06:49:47PM +0200, Jorgen Schaefer wrote: Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Right now I'm on those Debian related channels on OFTC: [...] And on Freenode: [...] * Freenode [...] 6 #debian-women * OFTC: You also forgot #debian-women on oftc which

Re: irc.debian.org

2006-05-03 Thread Jorgen Schaefer
Kurt Roeckx [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You also forgot #debian-women on oftc which currently has 79. As I said, this list does not include private or secret channels, and #debian-women has +s set. Greetings, -- Jorgen -- Debian GNU/Linux Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: irc.debian.org

2006-05-03 Thread Jorgen Schaefer
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jorgen Schaefer wrote: So, here it goes. Data was collected on 2006-05-03 at around 18:40 CEST: Hmm, you seem to have missed #debian-boot, which is on freenode with some 70 in channel. Also, you missed #debian-security and #debian-release, which are,

Re: irc.debian.org

2006-05-03 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 03 May 2006, Joey Hess wrote: Jorgen Schaefer wrote: So, here it goes. Data was collected on 2006-05-03 at around 18:40 CEST: Hmm, you seem to have missed #debian-boot, which is on freenode with some 70 in channel. Also, you missed #debian-security and #debian-release, which are,

Re: irc.debian.org

2006-05-03 Thread Joey Hess
Don Armstrong wrote: Hmm, you seem to have missed #debian-boot, which is on freenode with some 70 in channel. Also, you missed #debian-security and #debian-release, which are, IIRC, on OFTC. For whatever reason, those channels appear to be +s, so it's not surprising that they were

Re: irc.debian.org

2006-05-03 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 03 May 2006, Jorgen Schaefer wrote: Kurt Roeckx [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You also forgot #debian-women on oftc which currently has 79. As I said, this list does not include private or secret channels, and #debian-women has +s set. What does +s exactly do? Many more channels have

Re: irc.debian.org

2006-05-03 Thread Linas Žvirblis
Raphael Hertzog wrote: What does +s exactly do? Many more channels have this, #debian-qa and #debian.de on OFTC too. So your list is incomplete right now. +s stands for secret. It means that the channel will not be seen on channel list. It also makes it impossible to tell if a person is on the

Re: The powerpc port should be removed from etch release candidates ...

2006-05-03 Thread Sven Mueller
Sven Luther wrote on 01/05/2006 08:21: On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 02:20:09AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: The reason that I did not inform you was because things were already very heated at the moment and because you were at that time still very concerned about the welfare of your mother. I thought

Re: irc.debian.org

2006-05-03 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 03 May 2006, Linas Žvirblis wrote: Raphael Hertzog wrote: What does +s exactly do? Many more channels have this, #debian-qa and #debian.de on OFTC too. So your list is incomplete right now. +s stands for secret. It means that the channel will not be seen on channel list. It also

Re: irc.debian.org

2006-05-03 Thread Simon Huggins
On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 01:41:35AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm in favour as well. I wonder, do you and the other me too people also have a reason to justify switching? I'm in favour of moving irc.debian.org just as I was last time this came up because of Rob

Re: irc.debian.org

2006-05-03 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/02/2006 12:40 PM, Cord Beermann wrote: Hallo! Du (Paul Johnson) hast geschrieben: Why not move it to Jabber? More people use and know what Jabber is these days than IRC. Jabber doesn't have any useable non-graphic Clients. for the