Re: RE : Re: Linux Magazin Germany, affecting Debian's image?!

2006-07-17 Thread Frank Küster
Radu-Cristian FOTESCU [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Joerg Jaspert [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : That was done by me for Cebit, like we did for some other years already. Well, it seems to lack the proper labeling then. -legal is the wrong list for this, there is no legal issue behind that.

RE : Re: RE : Re: Linux Magazin Germany, affecting Debian's image?!

2006-07-17 Thread Radu-Cristian FOTESCU
--- Frank Küster [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : But it says Debian sarge special, As you can see the facts from the web page: http://www.linux-magazin.de/Produkte/Bestellen/lm_04_06_dvd.html things can be terribly misleading: 1. You can see DVD-ausgabe mit Debian Sarge. There is *no* Spezial or

RE : Re: RE : Re: Linux Magazin Germany, affecting Debian's image?!

2006-07-17 Thread Radu-Cristian FOTESCU
--- Eduard Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Then stop bitching and do something about it. I agree upon that I should be doing something rather than whinning. But I',m noit involved with the Debian Project and I can't take any decisions here. Do you prefer this new image over the usual image

Re: RE : Re: Linux Magazin Germany, affecting Debian's image?!

2006-07-17 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include hallo.h * Radu-Cristian FOTESCU [Sun, Jul 16 2006, 07:44:00PM]: I'm terribly sorry to say, but I'm disappointed by the unprofessional approach. Or, take it the other way around: if unofficial backports can be seen as official, how comes we can't download the updated CeBIT 2006

Re: Linux Magazin Germany, affecting Debian's image?!

2006-07-17 Thread MJ Ray
Radu-Cristian FOTESCU [EMAIL PROTECTED] As you can see the facts from the web page: http://www.linux-magazin.de/Produkte/Bestellen/lm_04_06_dvd.html things can be terribly misleading: 1. You can see DVD-ausgabe mit Debian Sarge. There is *no* Spezial or Unofficial wording on the cover of

Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: Linux Magazin Germany, affecting Debian's image?!

2006-07-17 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi Radu-Cristian, On Mon, Jul 17, 2006 at 12:51:06PM -0400, Radu-Cristian FOTESCU [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is still false. People's erroneous beliefs do not entitle them to anything. This is not about entitlement. This is about Debian's failure to react to a misuse of its

Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: Linux Magazin Germany, affecting Debian's image?!

2006-07-17 Thread Radu-Cristian FOTESCU
That is still false. People's erroneous beliefs do not entitle them to anything. This is not about entitlement. This is about Debian's failure to react to a misuse of its trademarks. I can see on the DVD cover: Debian Sarge. This is all you can see on both the cover and the DVD. I'm going them

Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: Linux Magazin Germany, affecting Debian's image?!

2006-07-17 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Jul 17, 2006 at 07:11:14PM +0200, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: On Mon, Jul 17, 2006 at 12:51:06PM -0400, Radu-Cristian FOTESCU [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is still false. People's erroneous beliefs do not entitle them to anything. This is not about entitlement. This is about

Re: Debian Powered Logo

2006-07-17 Thread Benjamin Seidenberg
Julien BLACHE wrote: Eduard Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, http://people.debian.org/~jblache/debian-powered-1.png Something, yes. Maybe you could try to use the text only three times. OK, here it is with the text repeated only 3 times, in a closed circle around the

Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: Linux Magazin Germany, affecting Debian's image?!

2006-07-17 Thread Radu-Cristian FOTESCU
On Mon, 2006-07-17 at 19:54 +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: You are the only one who thinks that a trademark is being misused. You are wrong. You are not in court. Neither of us has the right to declare the other is wrong. I am *not* the only one -- I am only one with such a blunt language.

Re: Linux Magazin Germany, affecting Debian's image?!

2006-07-17 Thread Radu-Cristian FOTESCU
On Mon, 2006-07-17 at 22:05 +0200, Alexander Schmehl wrote: *We*, Debian Developers, contacted *them* and asked them to sponsor this DVD. 1. As long as it's not their project, is it really unofficial, as it's made bu DDs? 2. Being it unofficial as it's said to be, as long as it holds Debian in

Re: Linux Magazin Germany, affecting Debian's image?!

2006-07-17 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Jul 18, 2006 at 12:32:43AM +0300, Radu-Cristian FOTESCU wrote: 2. Being it unofficial as it's said to be, as long as it holds Debian in the label, could you explain *WHY* the following wording from http://www.us.debian.org/distrib/ does *not* apply? Debian GNU/Linux is distributed

Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: Linux Magazin Germany, affecting Debian's image?!

2006-07-17 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Jul 18, 2006 at 12:27:04AM +0300, Radu-Cristian FOTESCU wrote: You are not in court. Neither of us has the right to declare the other is wrong. I am *not* the only one -- I am only one with such a blunt language. Steve Langasek just replied at Mon, 17 Jul 2006 12:56:16 -0700: «This

Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: Linux Magazin Germany, affecting Debian's image?!

2006-07-17 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Jul 17, 2006 at 11:48:05PM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: Because I suppose that if I made up my own modified Debian and I'm sticking it to a magazine and label it Debian Sarge, enhanced, I could be sued for that. You can always be sued, but if you could _lose_ the suit, it would

Re: Linux Magazin Germany, affecting Debian's image?!

2006-07-17 Thread Sylvain Sauvage
Lundi 17 juillet 2006, 23:37:45 CEST, Hubert Chan a écrit : On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 17:04:18 -0700, Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: If there WERE anything that said that modified versions of Debian must be avavilable for free download, it would mean that something is seriously,

Re: Linux Magazin Germany, affecting Debian's image?!

2006-07-17 Thread Hubert Chan
On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 17:04:18 -0700, Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: If there WERE anything that said that modified versions of Debian must be avavilable for free download, it would mean that something is seriously, horribly, wrong. It would be a non-free requirement. You mean like the

Re: Linux Magazin Germany, affecting Debian's image?!

2006-07-17 Thread Hubert Chan
On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 06:29:23 +0200, Sylvain Sauvage [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Lundi 17 juillet 2006, 23:37:45 CEST, Hubert Chan a écrit : On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 17:04:18 -0700, Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: If there WERE anything that said that modified versions of Debian must be