Jérôme Marant wrote:
Le lundi 09 octobre 2006 18:54, Martin Schulze a écrit :
hard on getting Debian better be funded similarily? I know that
several people have lost their motivation to work on Debian as before
(yes, others will hate me for writing this again) because of this.
Some
Le mercredi 11 octobre 2006 09:05, Martin Schulze a écrit :
Jérôme Marant wrote:
Le lundi 09 octobre 2006 18:54, Martin Schulze a écrit :
hard on getting Debian better be funded similarily? I know that
several people have lost their motivation to work on Debian as before
(yes,
mmlacak wrote:
It's also being discussed at the moment if/how money affects developers.
Well, lets make possible for money to come in, in the first place.
In my opinion, money destroys. I believe it's already happening in
Debian. However, many people don't seem to care or understand.
Hi,
Taking the data available on nm.debian.org, I've noticed that in the
last six months only 28 applicants became Debian Developers. This means
roughly every 6.4 days an applicant gets processed by a DAM.
Further I've noticed that by this time 25 of the 28 applicants where
processed by only one
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
Huh? I hate to be the one to break it to you, but many things life
boil down to a question of time or money.
* Do I mow my lawn (time) or hire someone to do it (money)?
* Do I was my car (time) or hire someone to do it (money)?
* Do I program my own OS (time) or
On Sun, Oct 08, 2006 at 08:07:10PM -0400, mmlacak wrote:
So, my question is: can we make SPI ( http://www.spi-inc.org/,
http://www.debian.org/donations ) into monetary service which accepts
from and is able to transfer money to any country in the world? Is able
Given that they depend on
also sprach Bastian Venthur [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.10.11.1002 +0200]:
This is quite frustrating, since most of the applicants are surely
doing already the normal work every Developer has to do, but are
not able to upload or participate on current votes.
I agree that this might well be
Jérôme Marant wrote:
hard on getting Debian better be funded similarily? I know that
several people have lost their motivation to work on Debian as before
(yes, others will hate me for writing this again) because of this.
Some developers ask themselves already why they should work
On Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 10:16:07AM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote:
Jérôme Marant wrote:
hard on getting Debian better be funded similarily? I know that
several people have lost their motivation to work on Debian as before
(yes, others will hate me for writing this again) because of
Le mercredi 11 octobre 2006 10:16, vous avez écrit :
It's not Dunc Tank's fault if your jealous.
Hmm, maybe it is because the developer is jealous on/of somebody
being directly or indirectly paid by the project while they are
not?
My personal belief is that being jealous is wrong.
If
On Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 10:14:39AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
Bastian, I am sorry for your frustration. All I can ask is that you
please be patient. If your sponsor does not have the time to work
with you in more or less real-time, consider asking for more help on
debian-mentors.
Yeah,
Le mercredi 11 octobre 2006 10:30, vous avez écrit :
Hmm, maybe it is because the developer is jealous on/of somebody
being directly or indirectly paid by the project while they are
not?
Which is why the paiement should have come from the debian funds. It would
have been order's of
also sprach Ana Guerrero [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.10.11.1040 +0200]:
Yeah, but this frustration is not only about be able to upload
your own packages, this is also about, i.e., have rights to vote
in the currents GR.
Exactly. So why not work towards a scheme where you can have vote
and private
Bastian Venthur [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So my question is: Is this a known problem and are there any short- and
longterm solutions in progress? Shouldn't we have some more DAMs in
order to process the queue faster? Seeing that the vast majority of the
DAM work is done only by one of the two
Roberto C. Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...] Person A gets mad becuase he is afraid that person B will will
get pay for something that both had originally agreed to do for free.
Now there's a key part of the problem: this changes agreements that some
developers made with the debian
On Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 09:58:45AM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote:
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
Huh? I hate to be the one to break it to you, but many things life
boil down to a question of time or money.
* Do I mow my lawn (time) or hire someone to do it (money)?
* Do I was my car (time)
Bastian Venthur wrote:
Hi,
Taking the data available on nm.debian.org, I've noticed that in the
last six months only 28 applicants became Debian Developers. This means
roughly every 6.4 days an applicant gets processed by a DAM.
Cool! About 5 new developers per month. That's great!
The
mmlacak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...]
What we do need, beside a good will, is a convenient, reliable,
affordable international money transfer service. [...]
They all aren't up to a general community benefit in long term.
Mutual banking services exist in England, variously called things like
Jérôme Marant wrote:
It's not Dunc Tank's fault if your jealous.
Hmm, maybe it is because the developer is jealous on/of somebody
being directly or indirectly paid by the project while they are
not?
My personal belief is that being jealous is wrong.
Many people consider
Le mercredi 11 octobre 2006 01:52, Stephen Gran a écrit :
This one time, at band camp, Thibaut VARENE said:
It's obvious giving money will affect someone's behaviour (allowing
him/her to work full time on a project, for instance). And as action
induces reaction, the moment there's someone
On Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 10:09:06AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
Roberto C. Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...] Person A gets mad becuase he is afraid that person B will will
get pay for something that both had originally agreed to do for free.
Now there's a key part of the problem: this
On Wed, Oct 11, 2006, Martin Schulze wrote:
In my opinion, money destroys. I believe it's already happening in
Debian. However, many people don't seem to care or understand.
ENOARGUMENTS.
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On Sun, Oct 08, 2006 at 11:54:46PM +, Bill Allombert wrote:
On Sun, Oct 08, 2006 at 12:34:01PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
The set of projects that can be funded are projects proposed by Debian
developers. I expect Debian developers to propose only projects that are
improving Debian.
Le mercredi 11 octobre 2006 09:20, Martin Schulze a écrit :
mmlacak wrote:
It's also being discussed at the moment if/how money affects developers.
Well, lets make possible for money to come in, in the first place.
In my opinion, money destroys. I believe it's already happening in
Re: Reinhard Tartler 2006-10-11 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From my observations, is seems that the only persons who can judge about
these questions are the current DAMs (James and Joerg), and perhaps the
DPL, since only they can approve new members of FD and DAM. (Given that
I understand the current
On Wed, 11 Oct 2006, Jérôme Marant wrote:
Could you please do me and probably many others a favour and move
this to private discussion. I do not like oversimplification and
overgeneralisation like
On Wed, 11 Oct 2006, Martin Schulze wrote
In my opinion, money destroys.
nor do I like thinks
Martin Schulze, 2006-10-11 10:10:15 +0200 :
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
Huh? I hate to be the one to break it to you, but many things life
boil down to a question of time or money.
* Do I mow my lawn (time) or hire someone to do it (money)?
* Do I was my car (time) or hire someone to do it
On 10804 March 1977, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
From my observations, is seems that the only persons who can judge about
these questions are the current DAMs (James and Joerg), and perhaps the
DPL, since only they can approve new members of FD and DAM. (Given that
I understand the current
Le mercredi 11 octobre 2006 14:59, Andreas Tille a écrit :
as an argument. I do not want to say that paying medicine is bad,
but the sentence above has not much more sense than the sentence
above if you try to dive into the details. So if both makes no
sense at all it is not even off topic
Reinhard Tartler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'd very welcome their opinions of the current situation regarding the
^ to hear
high backlog of applicants at FD and DAM stage, and what 'outsiders' can
do to help them to clear the backlog.
Sorry for the typo.
Yes, I'm still
MJ Ray wrote:
mmlacak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...]
What we do need, beside a good will, is a convenient, reliable,
affordable international money transfer service. [...]
They all aren't up to a general community benefit in long term.
Mutual banking services exist in
Hi,
Jérôme Marant schrieb:
My personal belief is that being jealous is wrong.
This may be morally true.
But humans are not morally perfect.
They are corrupted easily, as a matter of fact.
The greatest corruptors are money and power.
Best wishes
Michael Kallas
--
Nobody can save your freedom
Raphael Hertzog writes (Re: Using money to fund real Debian work):
But if the structure is open to everyone, then everybody has a
chance to request funding.
This is precisely what is wrong with funding the RMs, and what makes
it different from funding some particular package development or
Christoph Berg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Reinhard Tartler 2006-10-11 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From my observations, is seems that the only persons who can judge about
these questions are the current DAMs (James and Joerg), and perhaps the
DPL, since only they can
* Joerg Jaspert:
On 10804 March 1977, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
From my observations, is seems that the only persons who can judge about
these questions are the current DAMs (James and Joerg), and perhaps the
DPL, since only they can approve new members of FD and DAM. (Given that
I understand
Jérôme Marant wrote:
It's also being discussed at the moment if/how money affects developers.
Well, lets make possible for money to come in, in the first place.
In my opinion, money destroys. I believe it's already happening in
Debian. However, many people don't seem to care or
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
On Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 09:58:45AM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote:
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
Huh? I hate to be the one to break it to you, but many things life
boil down to a question of time or money.
* Do I mow my lawn (time) or hire someone to do it
On Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 10:15:00PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote:
Yet, if you are able to make Debian your client, then you can do that
which you enjoy *and* get paid for it. With my list, I was trying to
That would involve taking over the person of either Andreas Barth or
Steve Langasek. I
Ian Jackson, 2006-10-11 21:10:12 +0200 :
This is quite different from the case with a programming task: if I
decide I can do some D-I work that needs doing better than the D-I
maintainers, I can just do it, and if my pet benefactor agrees with
me, I can get paid to do it and the result _will_
Le mercredi 11 octobre 2006 22:24, Martin Schulze a écrit :
A. I said I would stop participating to the thread bu I could
not resist.
Seeing Bill Gates giving away billion dollars for paying medicines
in Third World countries makes me believe that money does the
reverse every often,
Tiago Saboga [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
But the funding of developers has other consequences. In the event this
idea fully succeeds (and I think it's really possible), we may think
about a core debian team, most of them in key positions, who are
funded by Debian.
Please note that no one, not
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