On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 05:37:23PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 07:58:50PM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
Which is why we release with gnome 2.14.
I don't understand. Do you consider this to be a good thing or a bad
thing?
As current gnome is 2.16, probably
On Tue, Dec 12, 2006, Mike Hommey wrote:
Which is why we release with gnome 2.14.
Actually, we cherry-picked some good 2.16 modules as well; nothing like
the full desktop, but still worth mentioning.
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On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 12:11:19PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 11:59:24AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
One thing you could do is to end *NOW* the experiment,
Can you please roughly outline what is going to happen when the
experiment is continued until its scheduled end,
On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 08:38:05AM +0100, Alexis Sukrieh wrote:
1. Paying Debian Developers seems to make (some of) them completely
humorless, everything is taken a hundred percent seriously, as if the
dollars in their pockets droped their fun hability. That's a pitty.
Ah, the It's just
On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 12:30:16PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 12:11:19PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 11:59:24AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
One thing you could do is to end *NOW* the experiment,
Can you please roughly outline what is going to
On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 01:00:38PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
As far as I remember, the experiment has two steps, paying Steve for a
month and paying Andi for a month. Steve's month is already over, and
Andi is like in his third week. So - again - as far as I remember
there is only one week of
On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 01:21:35PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
Like said, the experiment will finish once it is officially finished, and once
the analysis has been done, and the final report result is published. Given
the impact of long-term demotivation, you can thus not expect the experiment
I would be interested in the difference of the two action lists.
Well, the experiment is flawed [...]
Let me ask again: What is going to happen when the experiment is
continued? [...]
Sven Luther, 2006-12-13 13:21:35 +0100 :
How are you going to measure the long-term demotivation
On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 10:40:25PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 01:00:38PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
As far as I remember, the experiment has two steps, paying Steve for a
month and paying Andi for a month. Steve's month is already over, and
Andi is like in his third
On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 01:48:45PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 01:21:35PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
Like said, the experiment will finish once it is officially finished, and
once
the analysis has been done, and the final report result is published. Given
the impact
On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 02:09:54PM +0100, Roland Mas wrote:
I would be interested in the difference of the two action lists.
Well, the experiment is flawed [...]
Let me ask again: What is going to happen when the experiment is
continued? [...]
Sven Luther, 2006-12-13 13:21:35
Sven Luther dijo [Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 11:53:52AM +0100]:
Which is why we release with gnome 2.14.
I don't understand. Do you consider this to be a good thing or a bad
thing?
As current gnome is 2.16, probably 2.18 before etch is released, i guess he
means we are already shiping
On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 10:47:26AM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
Sven Luther dijo [Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 11:53:52AM +0100]:
Which is why we release with gnome 2.14.
I don't understand. Do you consider this to be a good thing or a bad
thing?
As current gnome is 2.16, probably 2.18
Sven Luther dijo [Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 01:21:35PM +0100]:
How are you going to measure the long-term demotivation which results from the
experiment ? How are you going to measure the already happened demotivation ?
How are you going to guarantee that the previously demotivated folk who
On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 04:02:53PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
Personally, I'd say that now would be the time for any anti-payment
people to say we can do this better, and look, we'll prove it, and make
up their own target date for etch, and demonstrate how much energy and
effort can be
On Wed, Dec 13, 2006, Riku Voipio wrote:
On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 08:38:05AM +0100, Alexis Sukrieh wrote:
1. Paying Debian Developers seems to make (some of) them completely
humorless, everything is taken a hundred percent seriously, as if the
dollars in their pockets droped their fun
On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 12:04:04PM +0100, Amaya wrote:
Marc Haber wrote:
Otoh, I see a truckload of unpaid DDs vituperating and spreading bad
mood around the project. _That's_ the real harm that was caused - very
indirectly - by dunctank.
I tend to agree with you.
Real experiments
On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 01:24:32PM +, MJ Ray wrote:
Actually, I believe you'll find that that wasn't even put forward as a
metric for the experiment.
In your own words, the experiment was to allocate sufficient funds so
that Steve Langasek and Andreas Barth can dedicate a month each to
On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 02:17:35PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
[...] Personally, I don't consider the experiment over
'til all those loose ends are tied up; and it could easily turn out that
the logistical issues alone are enough of a problem to make this sort
of endeavour not worth the
On Thu, Dec 14, 2006 at 03:32:16PM +1000, Anthony Towns
aj@azure.humbug.org.au wrote:
Given this isn't a DPL funding initiative, I think you're way off base.
It's not only because you subtly outsourced it.
Mike
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On Thu, Dec 14, 2006 at 03:33:49PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 02:17:35PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
[...] Personally, I don't consider the experiment over
'til all those loose ends are tied up; and it could easily turn out that
the logistical issues alone are
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