Patrick Frank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...]
But do we need people with special priviledges in responsible
positions like Christoph Berg aka Myon who make public
statements about other developers like this: [...]
I emailed myon @ debian.org about that the day after it was posted,
but I've had
Ian Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...]
There is no requirement for the Social Committee to publish
requests made to it, its decisions or requests, or its
deliberations except that access control decisions it makes
under (4) above shall be public.
I don't think we
On Sun, 3 Jun 2007, MJ Ray wrote:
I feel that this would probably entrench any majority views,
particularly with only five members. Replace with:
7. The initial Social Committee will consist of eleven Developers
drawn by random selection from all Developers.
Are there any statistics from
On Mon, Jun 04, 2007, Patrick Frank wrote:
**, you suck.
I desperately hope Debian will recover from these months.
PS: Please go see a psychologist. Really.
Such public statements are not surprising since Sam Hocevar
was elected as new Debian Project Leader back
On 11040 March 1977, MJ Ray wrote:
But do we need people with special priviledges in responsible
positions like Christoph Berg aka Myon who make public
statements about other developers like this: [...]
I emailed myon @ debian.org about that the day after it was posted,
but I've had no
On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 10:56:32PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote:
On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 10:30:24PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
Also, I can already see opposition to a committee which is only elected
once, and can then change its own membership at will, while retaining
all of its the powers that
MJ Ray writes (Re: Social committee proposal):
Ian Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...]
7. The initial Social Committee will consist of of five elected
Developers. The Project Secretary is requested to organise and
hold an election, in a manner similar to that for Project
On 6/4/07, Joerg Jaspert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not rating this one post - that blog is usually ontopic, no need to
remove for one post that *some* people may not like.
Dear Joerg,
when I look back to the old days on Undernet back in the late 90s
I remember that you prefered to write
Josip Rodin writes (Re: Social committee proposal):
I don't quite get the idea of having a delegation where delegates are
voted upon. Imagine a conflict situation later - the leader can veto
their decisions, change charter, or even undelegate the whole thing.
Yes. But in practice the DPL
Patrick Frank [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
when I look back to the old days on Undernet back in the late 90s
[snip]
When discussing ad hominem attacks, it's often smart not to make such
attacks yourself.
like Sven you are looking at the wrong end. With a proper conflict
management the first
Hi,
On Monday 04 June 2007 12:21, Patrick Frank wrote:
If Sven Luther was active within the Debian Project for 8 years and
one conflict between him, Frans Pop and maybe 1 or 2 other people lead
to drama
If that only would be the case. Sven had serious problems with much more than
three
On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 10:30:24PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
I still think that we should organize a proper GR to put a basic framework
into the constitution, and then vote on the members regularly.
I agree. I always wonder why the project, like any other association of
individuals instead,
On 6/4/07, Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dude. Slow down.
I use Google Mail to do my mailing list conversations.
The mails I quoted were all added to the thread I started.
What a drama that I dont check every single mail header.
I hope you never do any single mistake when you
On 6/4/07, Kalle Kivimaa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Attacks without proof are less than worthless, they only make others to
ignore your other points.
To such a spirit there is nothing more to add.
--
greetings,
Patrick Frank
Let me see if I have this straight.
We would both agree that:
- Range Voting is more expressive than Condorcet. (In the sense that
it is possible for a voter who so desires to more precisely express
their true opinion.)
- Range Voting is simpler (easier to understand) than Condorcet.
On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 11:05:02AM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
I don't quite get the idea of having a delegation where delegates are
voted upon. Imagine a conflict situation later - the leader can veto
their decisions, change charter, or even undelegate the whole thing.
Yes. But in
On 6/4/07, Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It was not my intention to quote a private E-Mail on the list.
I will double-check the headers in future.
Sorry to offend your privacy.
--
greetings,
Patrick Frank
Hi,
In a recent discussion on the -sparc list, it turned out that we seem to
have something of a habit of getting hardware offers, but not knowing
exactly what to do with them :)
The matter of shipping hardware and the associated cost always comes up.
I don't think we've footed the bill for
On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 11:26:58PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote:
Having a record of who voted for whom is a good default. Since we don't
have any typical real-world election abuses in Debian (e.g. intimidation
or harming of people who voted for someone you don't like), I see no
serious
Hi,
I went back and examined the thread that started with
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] in February, and
came up with the following diff at the Constitution.
The changes from the last version include:
* replaced the somewhat confusing 'day-to-day' reference
* added section 'Intervene in
On Mon, 04 Jun 2007, Patrick Frank wrote:
On 6/4/07, Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dude. Slow down.
I use Google Mail to do my mailing list conversations.
The mails I quoted were all added to the thread I started.
What a drama that I dont check every single mail header.
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On 06/04/2007 06:36 PM, Josip Rodin wrote:
[...]
Maybe it would be worth setting up a separate (archived) mail alias @d.o
and then tell people that they can send information there. That would be
a start, at least.
I had the impression that
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