Re: What do Open Source Projects need? - part 3

2007-06-08 Thread Matthew Garrett
Patrick Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > P.S.: Mark Shuttleworth, you have all my sympathy for recognizing > the weakness of the Debian Project early enough to do it better. It's already been made clear to you that you're not welcome in the Ubuntu community. Please don't try to insin

Re: Social committee proposal

2007-06-08 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 01:07:54PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > Well, I don't think it is the best idea to discuss those issues > via mail. I just hope that many people will join > > https://penta.debconf.org/~joerg/events/93.en.html > > which I registered for an open discussion about this

Re: What do Open Source Projects need? - part 3

2007-06-08 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 08:17:27PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: > Hi, > * Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-06-08 19:53]: > > Le vendredi 08 juin 2007 à 13:49 +0200, Patrick Frank a écrit : > > > On 6/8/07, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [...] > > You are absolutely incredible.

Re: What do Open Source Projects need? - part 3

2007-06-08 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, * Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-06-08 19:53]: > Le vendredi 08 juin 2007 à 13:49 +0200, Patrick Frank a écrit : > > On 6/8/07, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > You are absolutely incredible. Really. I don't know of anyone who can > troll better than you. >

Re: What do Open Source Projects need? - part 3

2007-06-08 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 08 juin 2007 à 17:52 +0200, Patrick Frank a écrit : > P.S.: Mark Shuttleworth, you have all my sympathy for recognizing > the weakness of the Debian Project early enough to do it > better. > (/me waits for Matt Zimmerman to show up magically) -- .''`. : :' : We are d

Re: What do Open Source Projects need? - part 3

2007-06-08 Thread Joey Schulze
Patrick Frank wrote: > On 6/8/07, Joey Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Do you want me to cry now like some of your friends, because you > reply to my private email on this list? :) I have no idea what you're smoking, but you should stop it. My mail contained only text written by myself. I

Re: What do Open Source Projects need? - part 3

2007-06-08 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 05:52:33PM +0200, Patrick Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 6/8/07, Joey Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Do you want me to cry now like some of your friends, because you > reply to my private email on this list? :) I don't know what you're smoking, but it must

Re: What do Open Source Projects need? - part 3

2007-06-08 Thread Patrick Frank
On 6/8/07, Joey Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Do you want me to cry now like some of your friends, because you reply to my private email on this list? :) The situation is that a few developers are trolling _me_ as reaction to my public opinion, and based on that given hostile climate I repl

Re: What do Open Source Projects need? - part 3

2007-06-08 Thread Joey Schulze
Paddy, *what* do you want? I'm missing any essense in your mails. Your responses to other people, however, clearly contain a certain troll level and more accusations that don't lead anywhere. (the accusations of the oters as well, fwiw). Regards, Joey PS: Could you stop sending HTML ma

Re: What do Open Source Projects need? - part 3

2007-06-08 Thread MJ Ray
"Patrick Frank" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The head of Freenode Staff [...Another unsupported claim, along with > another posting of private mail...] > "Privacy on the Internet does not exist" [...] That's incorrect, but off-topic anyway. If it bothers you, correct them. > But lets focus on fa

Re: What do Open Source Projects need? - part 3

2007-06-08 Thread Patrick Frank
On 6/8/07, MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: stop republishing private email. You are cute. really. Just a few mails ago you claim I am riding a hobby horse throught mailing lists. You mentioned the gNewSense mailing list here. Point of that call for debate was privacy. The head of Freenode St

Re: Fwd: What do Open Source Projects need? - part 3

2007-06-08 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Fri, Jun 08, 2007, MJ Ray wrote: > Rough translation follows. Anyone willing to authenticate? > Feb 06 13:47:31 That from sam is timely To be fair, "voll daneben" is closer here to "off the mark". -- Sam. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe".

Re: Patrick Frank, again

2007-06-08 Thread Patrick Frank
On 6/8/07, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello dear listmasters, What would you do if the list masters would suggest you to see a psychologist as reaction to your second "call for hate" campaign? -- greetings, Patrick Frank

Re: Fwd: What do Open Source Projects need? - part 3

2007-06-08 Thread MJ Ray
Rough translation follows. Anyone willing to authenticate? "Patrick Frank" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OFTC, channel #debian.de: Feb 06 13:24:41 Hm. Svenl stands for DPL? Feb 06 13:26:46 Yes Feb 06 13:26:59 and the mudslinging is ready to start Feb 06 13:36:23 GyrosGeier: Oh? Where then? F

Re: Fwd: What do Open Source Projects need? - part 3

2007-06-08 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Fri, Jun 08, 2007, Patrick Frank wrote: > Feb 06 13:39:38 Tolimar, http://sam2007.zoy.org/ > Feb 06 13:39:51 Tolimar, ich habe so ein Gefühl, daß Sven > darauf reagiert Sven told me on February 25th in front of several other DDs that he was going to vote for me. Mein Gott, was für eine Rea

Re: What do Open Source Projects need? - part 3

2007-06-08 Thread Patrick Frank
On 6/8/07, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Okay. Now be a good boy, go back to your cage and program. -- greetings, Patrick Frank

Re: What do Open Source Projects need? - part 3

2007-06-08 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 08 juin 2007 à 13:49 +0200, Patrick Frank a écrit : > On 6/8/07, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > you are a damn fucking troll and liar. > > Your accusations are not only full of lies > > > You are a complete moron, and you don't code anything > > Is this the spirit

Re: Social committee proposal

2007-06-08 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 8 Jun 2007, Andreas Barth wrote: Eh, why don't do it in the discussion about Debian governance? You know the principle: we need Gnome AND KDE, Emacs AND Vim, ... ;-) Or rather: It was kind of hard to find out which events were submitted when there was time for submissions. So well, I

Re: What do Open Source Projects need? - part 3

2007-06-08 Thread Patrick Frank
On 6/8/07, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: you are a damn fucking troll and liar. Your accusations are not only full of lies You are a complete moron, and you don't code anything Is this the spirit of most debian developers? I can see clearly how it must be like for people who

Fwd: What do Open Source Projects need? - part 3

2007-06-08 Thread Patrick Frank
-- Forwarded message -- From: Patrick Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Jun 8, 2007 1:26 PM Subject: Re: What do Open Source Projects need? - part 3 To: Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On 6/8/07, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And no, Kalle Kivimaa, I dont need

Re: Social committee proposal

2007-06-08 Thread Andreas Barth
* Andreas Tille ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070608 13:08]: > On Fri, 8 Jun 2007, Andreas Barth wrote: > > >I don't get the problem. We have two sets of people there in: > >- people elected in even years > >- people elected in uneven years > > Well, I don't think it is the best idea to discuss those issu

Re: Social committee proposal

2007-06-08 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 8 Jun 2007, Andreas Barth wrote: I don't get the problem. We have two sets of people there in: - people elected in even years - people elected in uneven years Well, I don't think it is the best idea to discuss those issues via mail. I just hope that many people will join https://

Re: Social committee proposal

2007-06-08 Thread Andreas Barth
* Andreas Tille ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070608 09:12]: > On Thu, 7 Jun 2007, Andreas Barth wrote: > > >I think it would be better if the committee is re-elected from the > >developers at large - perhaps half of their size > > I see no chance to define half of their size precisely. It immediately >

Re: What do Open Source Projects need?

2007-06-08 Thread MJ Ray
Gerfried Fuchs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-06-06 09:36]: > > My question about unsubbing Christoph Berg from Planet Debian was more > > about: do we think it will recur and should we draw a line here? > > Given that this question comes from someone who has ben u

Re: Debian release cycle for enterprise ?

2007-06-08 Thread Frank Küster
"Frédéric PICA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How much easy is a distribution upgrade under debian ? I'm looking for > experienced users, having debian in a production environnement with > 24H/24H 7d/7d requirements. > > Does apt-get dist-upgrade works really well ? If you have read the release no

Re: Debian release cycle for enterprise ?

2007-06-08 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 09:41:09AM +0200, Fr?d?ric PICA wrote: > How much easy is a distribution upgrade under debian ? Quite easy. > I'm looking for experienced users, having debian in a production > environnement with 24H/24H 7d/7d requirements. Running a 24/7 shop without the possibility to

Re: What do Open Source Projects need? - part 3

2007-06-08 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 07 juin 2007 à 14:47 +0200, Patrick Frank a écrit : > And thats why the clear words in direction of Sam Hocevar, who did > parts of his electoral campaign on costs of Sven Luther. > > And no, Kalle Kivimaa, I dont need proof in form of a web cache that > shows the old content of sam2007.

Debian release cycle for enterprise ?

2007-06-08 Thread Frédéric PICA
Greets, This the follow up of the same thread in debian-release : http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2007/06/msg00039.html To follow Steve Lamgasek, yes a two year release cycle could be dauting, especially with many different servers. The best will be to have a longer security support to be

Re: Social committee proposal

2007-06-08 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, 7 Jun 2007, Andreas Barth wrote: I think it would be better if the committee is re-elected from the developers at large - perhaps half of their size I see no chance to define half of their size precisely. It immediately opens a lot of question. One of these questions is "Which half?"