On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 02:08:43PM +0100, Bas Wijnen wrote:
> Assuming that the number of DEPs will be significant, I think it would
> be a good idea to separate ACCEPTED DEPs into two groups, namely
> "historical" which nobody needs to read, because their text is included
> in some authorative doc
On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 02:58:14PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote:
> Personally, I think DEP should go to d-d-a *once accepted* (dunno about
> obsoleted, maybe as well), but initial drafts should go to either
> debian-devel (DEP touches development, I assume this will be the vast
> majority of DEPs, al
On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 12:08:37PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> > I had reasons why I dont fill the pipe with E-Mails that contain 20
> > pages long efforts if the expectation is pretty hostile feedback.
> As you can see, posting generalities didn't really fare much better.
Right - 20 pages of an
First off, thanks to all of you for pushing this forward, I think it's a
great idea.
On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 07:50:27PM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote:
> History of changes, and VCSen in general (open front)
>
>
> Lucas Nussbaum suggests that the document incl
With the upload of debian-maintainers version 1.16, the following
changes to the keyring have been made:
dm:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Full name: Gustavo R. Montesino
Added key: 8F25B3364522B304DFA0E1C70F8033F0BACAB6C2
dm:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Full name: Philipp Benner
Added key: C1A82BE875872
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008, Adeodato Simó wrote:
> OK, thanks all for your encouraging feedback so far! For driving this
> discussion, I think it's going to work best if I manage to make regular
> updates of the status of the discussion, like this one. As in,
> mentioning the actions I'm taking based on f
First, as one of the drivers, I'd like to explicitly say that I like and
approve of the changes dato made to the draft in his dep0.dato branch,
and the comments he's had on the discussion so far.
On ke, 2008-01-16 at 19:50 +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote:
> > Assuming that the number of DEPs will be si
"Lars Versen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> You are correct that my first E-Mail was very much simplified and
> non-scientifical. I can only describe observations and personal opinion,
> because I am not a scientist. And I am aware of the fact that a certain
> type of personality has more problems
OK, thanks all for your encouraging feedback so far! For driving this
discussion, I think it's going to work best if I manage to make regular
updates of the status of the discussion, like this one. As in,
mentioning the actions I'm taking based on feedback, and summarizing the
discussion so far on
Hi,
On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 12:18:30PM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote:
> Lars Wirzenius, Stefano Zacchiroli and myself are trying to introduce
> the concept of Debian Enhancement Proposals,
Very good idea!
I have some minor comments:
> As the discussion progresses, the enhancement is assigned certa
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On Sunday, the first BSP of 2008 in Zurich [1], Switzerland
came to an end. It was a very successful event.
On 12 and 13 January, 16 people hacked on Debian all day (and through the
night) and managed to close a fair number of bugs:
42 RC, 24 non RC,
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008, Adeodato Simó wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Lars Wirzenius, Stefano Zacchiroli and myself are trying to introduce
> the concept of Debian Enhancement Proposals, which I had in mind for
> many months until purely by chance, in the Extremadura QA meeting last
> December, I brought it up to L
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> Or maybe, it could be "the list that the drivers prefer, with
> debian-project@ Cced"?
>
> Some minor DEPs probably won't need a mail to d-d-a before they are
> accepted. And having draft DEPs announced on d-d-a might be confusing:
> some people might c
This is obviously the bikeshed part of DEP0...
On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 02:30:42PM +0100, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote:
> On Wednesday 16 January 2008, Andreas Tille wrote:
> > On Wed, 16 Jan 2008, Adeodato Simó wrote:
> > > Lars Wirzenius, Stefano Zacchiroli and myself are trying to introduce
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
I think the initial mail should be sended to debian-devel-announce
because there might be a lot of interested people who do not read
debian-project. At least I feel DEP0 should go initially to dda.
Or maybe, it could be "the list that the drivers pre
On 16/01/2008, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote:
> debian-devel-announce is restricted to DD's do we want that for
> proposing DEP's?
>
> On the other hand, finding a DD to forward a proposal would probably
> be easy enough, so it doesn't matter that much
With my NM hat on, it looks like it is no
On Wednesday 16 January 2008, Andreas Tille wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Jan 2008, Adeodato Simó wrote:
> > Lars Wirzenius, Stefano Zacchiroli and myself are trying to introduce
> > the concept of Debian Enhancement Proposals,
>
> Well done!
>
> I have only one comment (for the moment):
> > Creating a DEP
>
On 16/01/08 at 13:41 +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Jan 2008, Adeodato Simó wrote:
>
>> Lars Wirzenius, Stefano Zacchiroli and myself are trying to introduce
>> the concept of Debian Enhancement Proposals,
>
> Well done!
>
> I have only one comment (for the moment):
>
>> Creating a DEP
>>
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008, Adeodato Simó wrote:
Lars Wirzenius, Stefano Zacchiroli and myself are trying to introduce
the concept of Debian Enhancement Proposals,
Well done!
I have only one comment (for the moment):
Creating a DEP
--
The procedure to create a DEP is simple: send an e
On 16/01/08 at 12:18 +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Lars Wirzenius, Stefano Zacchiroli and myself are trying to introduce
> the concept of Debian Enhancement Proposals, which I had in mind for
> many months until purely by chance, in the Extremadura QA meeting last
> December, I brought it
Russ Allbery, thanks a lot for your opinion.
I will use your E-Mail not to continue my topic on your back now,
but you make a few interesting points that help me to go one step further with
my explanations.
You are correct that my first E-Mail was very much simplified and
non-scientifical. I ca
On Wednesday 16 January 2008, Adeodato Simó wrote:
> Lars Wirzenius, Stefano Zacchiroli and myself are trying to introduce
> the concept of Debian Enhancement Proposals, which I had in mind for
> many months until purely by chance, in the Extremadura QA meeting last
> December, I brought it up to L
Hi,
Lars Wirzenius, Stefano Zacchiroli and myself are trying to introduce
the concept of Debian Enhancement Proposals, which I had in mind for
many months until purely by chance, in the Extremadura QA meeting last
December, I brought it up to Lars, and together with Zack we produced an
initial dra
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