Re: giving @debian.org mail addresses to voting contributors

2008-10-26 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 02:07:16AM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: Why not @people.debian.org ? It represents pretty good what thoses eventual contributors would: the _people_ who make Debian. In fact, I've already argued in this thread that @whatever.debian.org will need nevertheless to

Debian Logo stoled

2008-10-26 Thread Kadath
Hello. Checkout this website, it looks like they steal Debian logotype. http://www.pure-organic-baby-food.co.uk/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Re-thinking Debian membership

2008-10-26 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sat,25.Oct.08, 21:56:09, Manoj Srivastava wrote: If you are not voting or uploading packages, everythign else you do can be done without a maintainers hat on, so you do not need to be a DD. Does this mean you oppose to the concept of having non-packagers being members of

Re: obsolete CVS repositories (was: Release notes)

2008-10-26 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Sun, 26 Oct 2008, Guillem Jover wrote: Could you also update dak's README to point to: http://ftp-master.debian.org/git/dak.git instead of the obsolete bzr repo? Last time I asked it was still in use for the arch specific package list. I could probably add a README, but moving it

Re: obsolete CVS repositories (was: Release notes)

2008-10-26 Thread Guillem Jover
On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 10:27:20 +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote: On Sun, 26 Oct 2008, Guillem Jover wrote: Could you also update dak's README to point to: http://ftp-master.debian.org/git/dak.git instead of the obsolete bzr repo? Last time I asked it was still in use for the arch

Re: obsolete CVS repositories (was: Release notes)

2008-10-26 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Sun, 26 Oct 2008, Guillem Jover wrote: On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 10:27:20 +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote: On Sun, 26 Oct 2008, Guillem Jover wrote: Could you also update dak's README to point to: http://ftp-master.debian.org/git/dak.git instead of the obsolete bzr repo?

Re: Re-thinking Debian membership

2008-10-26 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 05:59:40PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Concrete proposal: max(Q, 20) endorsements, two existing members together can veto. The veto can be done anonymously via the Debian Account Manager to avoid peer pressure to not veto. The DAM only counts the

Re: Re-thinking Debian membership

2008-10-26 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 10:49:35PM +0200, Ana Guerrero wrote: Concrete proposal: max(Q, 20) endorsements, two existing members together can veto. The veto can be done anonymously via the Debian Account Manager to avoid peer pressure to not veto. The DAM only counts the endorsements

Re: Re-thinking Debian membership

2008-10-26 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 06:12:48AM +, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Hi, One of the issues I have with this proposal is that there seems to be, by design, absolutely no consideration about skill levels or quality of developers. I'll concede that the current process might not do a

Re: Re-thinking Debian membership

2008-10-26 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 10:46:13PM +, Helen Faulkner wrote: Aurelien Jarno wrote: Ana Guerrero a écrit : [...] * Membership ends 24 months after they're given, or after the latest participation in a vote arranged by the project's Secretary. Members may retire themselves

Re: Re-thinking Debian membership

2008-10-26 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 07:59:58AM +, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 03:53:46PM +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: pe, 2008-10-24 kello 12:18 +0200, Peter Palfrader kirjoitti: On Fri, 24 Oct 2008, Lars Wirzenius wrote: * The keyrings shall be maintained in a way that

Re: Developer Status

2008-10-26 Thread Felipe Sateler
Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 04:56:36PM -0300, Felipe Sateler wrote: My name is on the Maintainer field of 2 packages in main, and I think we can consider the Maintainer fields as a list of contributors (evidently, not all of them). I haven't (formally) agreed to any

Re: Developer Status

2008-10-26 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 12:30:02PM -0300, Felipe Sateler wrote: The Debian Contributor class is a class of people that can't do anything. Sure, it really sounds good… -- Yves-Alexis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Re: NEW queue

2008-10-26 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 12:39:20AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:38:48PM +0200, Ana Guerrero wrote: - We keep the right to refuse *any* candidate for whatever reason. That is not exaclty encouraging. So think maybe you are doing something wrong when calling

Re: NEW queue

2008-10-26 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Ana Guerrero said: Oh right, I am still surprised some people continue reading after the line: - need to be able to deal with all the existing team members :) in the same email. snip The sad part here is they^whe had to send a mail asking people to work

Re: NEW queue

2008-10-26 Thread Clint Adams
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 07:04:47PM +, Stephen Gran wrote: Do you really honestly believe that people should join a team when they can't get along with the existing members. Do you really honestly believe that saying that the ability to get along is expected is a bad thing? Pretending

Re: Developer Status

2008-10-26 Thread Felipe Sateler
Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 12:30:02PM -0300, Felipe Sateler wrote: The Debian Contributor class is a class of people that can't do anything. Sure, it really sounds good… I'm not sure what you wanted to say with that, but I'll clarify my statement. The Debian

Re: Debian Logo stoled

2008-10-26 Thread Lars Wirzenius
su, 2008-10-26 kello 09:24 +0200, Kadath kirjoitti: Hello. Checkout this website, it looks like they steal Debian logotype. http://www.pure-organic-baby-food.co.uk/ It's not an exact copy of the Debian logo, and Debian does not have a monopoly on swirls. Thus, I think it is not a problem.

Re: Re-thinking Debian membership

2008-10-26 Thread Lars Wirzenius
pe, 2008-10-24 kello 23:47 -0700, Steve Langasek kirjoitti: I think it would be more sensible to kick out the people who don't do anything for the project *except* vote. That is certainly a good point. The reason I propose counting voting only is that that's the only action all DD would have

Re: Re-thinking Debian membership

2008-10-26 Thread Lars Wirzenius
la, 2008-10-25 kello 09:59 +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli kirjoitti: A scenario I want to avoid for example is that newcomers can alter the keyring adding tens of friends. Such a possibility would imply that if Debian as a project fails *once* in checking IDs and motivations for *a single*

Re: Re: Debian Logo stoled

2008-10-26 Thread Richard Meredith
Hello Lars, thank you for your comments regarding the similarity of the Pure Organic and the Debian logo. We have sent an email into Debian and kandath earlier today as I'm unsure how to reply to Kandath's initial post on the matter, hopefully the mailing list will can post our comments

Re: Debian Logo stoled

2008-10-26 Thread Ben Finney
Lars Wirzenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: su, 2008-10-26 kello 09:24 +0200, Kadath kirjoitti: Checkout this website, it looks like they steal Debian logotype. http://www.pure-organic-baby-food.co.uk/ It's not an exact copy of the Debian logo I agree that it doesn't look like a derivative

Re: NEW queue

2008-10-26 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Clint Adams said: On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 07:04:47PM +, Stephen Gran wrote: Do you really honestly believe that people should join a team when they can't get along with the existing members. Do you really honestly believe that saying that the ability to get