Dear Giacomo,
On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 08:27:18AM +0100, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
> On 12/04/2012 10:36 PM, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> > Is the “outsiders” word also meaning to describe people who were asked
> > for sponsorship and discovered later that the brochure they were sent
> > had almost
Le mercredi 05 décembre 2012 à 08:27 +0100, Giacomo A. Catenazzi a
écrit :
> For a lot of people, your writing seems out of context.
> The sponsorship brochure is linked in:
> http://debconf13.debconf.org/helpus.xhtml
>
> If other people find that it *had almost nothing to do* with DebConf,
> ple
On 12/04/2012 10:36 PM, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le mardi 04 décembre 2012 à 13:38 -0600, Gunnar Wolf a écrit :
>> People, (most of) the Swiss team is pissed with the lack of trust and
>> lack of respect we have been showing for months already, and that now
>> some very vocal outsiders (i.e. Debia
Leandro Gómez
> Yes, please stop this nonsense!
OK, sure, but could everyone also please stop this sort of nonsense:
> If you haven't been part of local team organizing a DebConf, you don't know
> how frustrating and demoralizing this kind of discussion is. [...]
and (quoting Gunnar Wolf):
> w
Le mardi 04 décembre 2012 à 13:38 -0600, Gunnar Wolf a écrit :
> People, (most of) the Swiss team is pissed with the lack of trust and
> lack of respect we have been showing for months already, and that now
> some very vocal outsiders (i.e. Debian people who are not involved in
> this year's DebCon
TL;DR ⇒ I'm sick of this discussion. I'm calling the DebConf chairs to
vote _NOW_ to sign or repeal the contract. I'm voting to
sign. (Do we need consensus between the three? Can we vote?)
I will probably do some netiquette breaches in this post... So,
apologies to all, but I think
Russ Allbery dijo [Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 10:42:47AM -0800]:
> (... big snip ...)
> What remedy or action are you looking for here? I don't think breaking
> the anonymity of a donation that never happened really makes sense. Are
> you looking for site selection to be re-opened? Further reassurance
Le mardi 04 décembre 2012 à 15:02 +0100, Andreas Tille a écrit :
> If these people
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ankh-Morpork_Assassins%27_Guild
>
> would use Debian it is perfectl in line with our social contract.
> Thus I can't see a reason why they should not sponsor DebConf.
There’s a
Ian Jackson writes:
> Russ Allbery writes:
>> That seems to be exactly what happened.
> No. My reading of Moray's message is that some members of the Debconf
> teams used the existence of the donation as an argument in favour of
> selecting Le Camp as the site.
At least for some period of time
On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Holger Levsen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm sick and saddened to read these mails and will not participate in any
> further of this.
>
> Also, I cannot stop thinking "gigantic bikeshedding (mostly from people who
> never build one). And based on rumors of what the bikeshed
On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 06:21:56PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Russ Allbery writes ("Re: [Debconf-discuss] "Anonymous donation" to Debconf
> 13"):
> > The part that I'm missing here is what you felt should have been done
> > differently.
>
> This is a reasonable question.
>
> > Let's assume that
Russ Allbery writes ("Re: [Debconf-discuss] "Anonymous donation" to Debconf
13"):
> The part that I'm missing here is what you felt should have been done
> differently.
This is a reasonable question.
> Let's assume that Debian has no control over the offering of the donation
> (or loan) in the f
Hi,
I'm sick and saddened to read these mails and will not participate in any
further of this.
Also, I cannot stop thinking "gigantic bikeshedding (mostly from people who
never build one). And based on rumors of what the bikeshed is supposed to
look, while not listening to the people who actu
On 04/12/12 18:02, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Daniel Pocock writes:
>
>> a) Holger, a DebConf chair, was concerned about Le Camp's budget on 25
>> October (referring to it as GourmetConf) and unwilling to support it
>> http://lists.debconf.org/lurker/message/20121025.200948.bca7a335.en.html
>> "100k
Daniel Pocock writes:
> a) Holger, a DebConf chair, was concerned about Le Camp's budget on 25
> October (referring to it as GourmetConf) and unwilling to support it
> http://lists.debconf.org/lurker/message/20121025.200948.bca7a335.en.html
> "100k for food is just insane. We are neither GourmetC
On 04/12/12 17:10, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Ian Jackson writes:
>
>> According to Moray this proposed strings-attached donation was used as
>> an argument by some members of the Debconf team in favour of making the
>> decision favoured by the donor. That is wholly unacceptable. It
>> amounts exa
Ian Jackson writes:
> According to Moray this proposed strings-attached donation was used as
> an argument by some members of the Debconf team in favour of making the
> decision favoured by the donor. That is wholly unacceptable. It
> amounts exactly to the donors buying influence.
> The fact
Jose Luis Rivas writes ("Re: [Debconf-discuss] "Anonymous donation" to Debconf
13"):
> I really thought people working on a project like Debian would understand
> the meaning of the "anonymous" word. Then we blame government and
> politicians.
I'm sorry, I don't follow your point. When politicia
Holger Levsen writes ("Re: [Debconf-discuss] "Anonymous donation" to Debconf
13"):
> On Montag, 3. Dezember 2012, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > I'm sorry to keep making trouble, but strings-attached offers of
> > substantial amounts of money from anonymous donors are a serious
> > matter. Even if the de
Moray Allan writes ("Re: "Anonymous donation" to Debconf 13"):
> Since your questions remain unanswered, I just want to say as one of
> the DebConf Chairs that I think the questions are valid, but I
> personally don't know any details about this that would help clear them
> up.
Thanks very much
Hi,
On Montag, 3. Dezember 2012, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > The "anonymous donations" we got offered were rejected (by us)
> Why do you use scare quotes ?
for two reasons: a.) because they are not anonymous to me and b.) because I'm
not as fluent in english writing as others.
> I'm sorry to keep m
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