Re: Some thoughts about Diversity and the CoC

2019-12-23 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Pierre-Elliott" == Pierre-Elliott Bécue writes: Pierre-Elliott> And having seen almost no one telling Geraldo such a Pierre-Elliott> thing, I find it disturbing to see that much people I'm writing this to make it clear that Geraldo's message was not okay. One of the messages

Re: Some thoughts about Diversity and the CoC

2019-12-23 Thread Pierre-Elliott Bécue
Le lundi 23 décembre 2019 à 17:43:21+0100, Iustin Pop a écrit : > On 2019-12-23 07:15:21, Sam Hartman wrote: > > > "Norbert" == Norbert Preining writes: > > > > Norbert> Dear Pierre-Elliott, (I am not subscribed to d-p anymore) > > > > Norbert> thanks for your email. I would like to

Re: Some thoughts about Diversity and the CoC

2019-12-23 Thread Nikolaus Rath
On Dec 20 2019, Martina Ferrari wrote: > Do people actually care about making Debian a welcoming place for > minorities? Then speak up, take risks, or stop pretending you > care. And I don't mean sending requests to listmaster, I mean putting > your body and privilege in the front line. Even

Debian Maintainers Keyring changes

2019-12-23 Thread Debian FTP Masters
The following changes to the debian-maintainers keyring have just been activated: rlaa...@pidgin.im Full name: Richard Laager Added key: D4EB7D94E78E4EE8ECE07F94F8796199C04586CE Debian distribution maintenance software, on behalf of the Keyring maintainers

Re: Some thoughts about Diversity and the CoC

2019-12-23 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 05:43:21PM +0100, Iustin Pop wrote: > Well, I would clarity as well here—is this the official position of the > project, that some groups (and I really don't care which groups) get > lenience on the CoC because they are minorities? > > If so, that also troubles me

Re: Some thoughts about Diversity and the CoC

2019-12-23 Thread Iustin Pop
On 2019-12-23 13:09:43, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote: > Considering your past attitudes, don't you think this could be seen as a > pattern? If really you meant well, I thought you could have said > something like "I disapprove Geraldo's email, but I also disapprove the > use of insults and you

Re: Some thoughts about Diversity and the CoC

2019-12-23 Thread Iustin Pop
On 2019-12-23 07:15:21, Sam Hartman wrote: > > "Norbert" == Norbert Preining writes: > > Norbert> Dear Pierre-Elliott, (I am not subscribed to d-p anymore) > > Norbert> thanks for your email. I would like to ask you for an > Norbert> explanation: > > Norbert> On Sun, 22 Dec

Re: Upgrades of godard (salsa) and bendel (lists) today

2019-12-23 Thread Alexander Wirt
On Mon, 23 Dec 2019, Alexander Wirt wrote: Hi, > we will update salsa and lists over the day, expect problems and outages > of lists.debian.org until we are done. We are mostly done, some checks are still pending. If you encounter any problems, please reach us in #alioth or #debian-lists.

Re: Some thoughts about Diversity and the CoC

2019-12-23 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Norbert" == Norbert Preining writes: Norbert> Dear Pierre-Elliott, (I am not subscribed to d-p anymore) Norbert> thanks for your email. I would like to ask you for an Norbert> explanation: Norbert> On Sun, 22 Dec 2019, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote: >> If you have

Re: Some thoughts about Diversity and the CoC

2019-12-23 Thread Pierre-Elliott Bécue
Le lundi 23 décembre 2019 à 09:22:12+0900, Norbert Preining a écrit : > Dear Pierre-Elliott, Dear Norbert, > thanks for your email. I would like to ask you for an explanation: What makes me sad is that you didn't even try to give one for your own attitude. :/ But here we go, I'll try to answer

Re: Some thoughts about Diversity and the CoC

2019-12-23 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 10:46:54AM +0100, Enrico Zini a écrit : > > The responsibility for a healty community, where everyone can feel > included and accepted, is nominally the responsibility of everyone in > the community. In practice, however, it is *primarily* the > responsibility of the