Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-03 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 4 juin 2020 00:35 +00, Paul Wise: >> Then, we need the SOF firmwares, currently not in Debian. I see >> you have #960788. I just got aware of it through #962134. I am happy to >> help you on this package and get it uploaded. > > Unfortunately SOF firmware, while it has freely licensed source c

Re: Debian hardware support and enablement for newer devices (was ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux)

2020-06-03 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 10:03 PM Hector Oron wrote: > There are more companies expecting better hardware support, this issue > is not limited to Lenovo, they are willing to pay consultancy time > and/or sponsor Debian events, however on volunteer premises, it has > been really hard to provide adequ

Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-03 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 7:51 PM Vincent Bernat wrote: > Then, we need the SOF firmwares, currently not in Debian. I see > you have #960788. I just got aware of it through #962134. I am happy to > help you on this package and get it uploaded. Unfortunately SOF firmware, while it has freely licensed

Debian hardware support and enablement for newer devices (was ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux)

2020-06-03 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, > > A shout out for Hector Martinez who has been helping me a whole bunch. > > Without his help I likely would have given up and wouldn't even be reading > > the threads on this forum. If there are more people like Hector > > (particularly in kernel, audio and graphics) let me know! > A

Re: FW: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-03 Thread Mark Pearson
Hi Jonathan On 6/3/2020 4:40 PM, Jonathan Carter wrote: Hey Mark On 2020/06/03 20:24, Mark Pearson wrote: In my mind the best long term solution for Debian is if Lenovo are contributing fixes ourselves - after all we usually know what the fixes are. We're not technically at the stage where t

Re: FW: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-03 Thread Jonathan Carter
Hey Mark On 2020/06/03 20:24, Mark Pearson wrote: >>> 1. Support >>> >>> I'm not sure what you did in the case with Fedora, but my guess is you >>> have some agreement with how to handle support calls for Fedora on the >>> system. Debian isn't backed by any one company, and in the immediate >>> fu

Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-03 Thread Mark Pearson
Hi Vincent On 6/3/2020 3:29 PM, Vincent Bernat wrote: ❦ 3 juin 2020 13:39 +00, Mark Pearson: As an important example - the X1 Carbon 7 (which is a popular machine) still doesn't work well with any version of Debian (including experimental or testing) as the audio is broken. Debian users hav

Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-03 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 3 juin 2020 13:39 +00, Mark Pearson: > As an important example - the X1 Carbon 7 (which is a popular machine) > still doesn't work well with any version of Debian (including > experimental or testing) as the audio is broken. Debian users have to > jump through a few hoops to get it to work. I'

Re: FW: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-03 Thread Mark Pearson
Hi Jonathan Thanks for the follow up. Also - apologies as I realised I used my non-linux friendly email account for my original posting with all the horrible outlook mangling. I'm posting this from my alternative account which avoids outlook (I'm just transitioning between the two accounts...

Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-03 Thread Felix Lechner
Hi Mark, On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 9:02 AM Jonathan Carter wrote: > > My x250 is 5 years old So is my T450s, and it's not the first. Lenovo and Debian are a great combo. Thanks for taking this initiative! Kind regards Felix Lechner

Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-03 Thread tomas
On Wed, Jun 03, 2020 at 05:53:50PM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote: > Hi Mark! [...] This is from the peanut gallery, from a simple Debian user. Thanks you both for this delightful exchange. This is one of the things why I love Debian -- running, BTW, on a thinkpad, which is an awesome machine, too

Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-03 Thread Jonathan Carter
Hi Mark! On 2020/06/03 15:39, Mark Pearson wrote: >> I guess it should be possible, but the biggest challenge is probably to >> get the right contact to talk with. Do we have such a contact ? >> > I started replying to this thread late last night and after a few iterations > I gave up and went to

RE: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-03 Thread Mark Pearson
Hi > -Original Message- > From: Thomas Goirand > Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 8:10 AM > > On 6/3/20 4:30 AM, Hideki Yamane wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I've found an article about Lenovo ships Fedora pre-installed machine. > > https://news.lenovo.com/smarter-technology-for-all-extends-to-th

Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-03 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Wed, Jun 03, 2020 at 02:10:09PM +0200, Thomas Goirand wrote: >On 6/3/20 4:30 AM, Hideki Yamane wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I've found an article about Lenovo ships Fedora pre-installed machine. >> >> https://news.lenovo.com/smarter-technology-for-all-extends-to-the-linux-community-this-summer/ >> >

Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-03 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 6/3/20 4:30 AM, Hideki Yamane wrote: > Hi, > > I've found an article about Lenovo ships Fedora pre-installed machine. > > https://news.lenovo.com/smarter-technology-for-all-extends-to-the-linux-community-this-summer/ > > At past DebConfs, I saw a lot of ThinkPad devices so many contributor