Re: Debian and Non-Free Services

2019-09-15 Thread Bart Martens
On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 01:30:24PM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > > I'm trying to move a thread from -devel. > > Ian Jackson responded [1] to part of a consensus discussion on Git > recommendations. I had said that I think we recommend against the use > of non-free services like Github but do

Re: State of the debian keyring

2014-02-23 Thread Bart Martens
://mentors.debian.net/intro-maintainers Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20140223080943.ga11...@master.debian.org

Re: State of the debian keyring

2014-02-23 Thread Bart Martens
of the new keys to the weakness of the 1024 bit keys. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20140223081228.ga1...@master.debian.org

Re: State of the debian keyring

2014-02-23 Thread Bart Martens
On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 10:23:47AM +0100, Matthias Urlichs wrote: Hi, Bart Martens: On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 07:57:43AM +, Marco d'Itri wrote: gw...@gwolf.org wrote: So, what do you suggest? Persuade developers that they should sign the new key of people whose old key

Re: State of the debian keyring

2014-02-23 Thread Bart Martens
to confirm that you're talking to the same person you've met previously and confirm that that is his new key. Exactly. We should not cut corners when replacing the 1024 bit keys by 4096 ones. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject

Re: State of the debian keyring

2014-02-23 Thread Bart Martens
to meet them in person. I'm open to that if and only if the new keys have proper transition statements. I would never sign new keys based on transition statements. And if the original signatures were *really* done carefully Still never. :-) Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: Should mailing list bans be published?

2013-10-27 Thread Bart Martens
On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 12:46:07PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 05:27:25PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: Bart Martens wrote: I suggest we keep things civil, with respect for the persons involved. It's really not up to Debian to harm someone's reputation

Re: Should mailing list bans be published?

2013-10-26 Thread Bart Martens
. Approaches I could support : - post the bans with reasons on debian-private - or maintain a list of bans with reasons in a text file on a Debian machine where DDs can read this info. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject

Re: Should mailing list bans be published?

2013-10-26 Thread Bart Martens
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 09:20:27PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 19:33 +, Bart Martens wrote: On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 10:46:41AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: This led to a philosophical debate about whether bans should be made public. Alexander expressed

Re: Should mailing list bans be published?

2013-10-26 Thread Bart Martens
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 12:58:34PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: Hi Bart, On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 07:33:34PM +, Bart Martens wrote: On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 10:46:41AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: This led to a philosophical debate about whether bans should be made public

Re: Doing something about should remain private forever emails

2013-06-21 Thread Bart Martens
not interested in. Messages sent to the wrong lists happens all the time, also on the public mailing lists. Let's accept some noise, while allowing anyone to choose where they post their messages. There's sufficient social control encouraging people to use the better list. Regards, Bart

Re: Validity of DFSG #10

2013-01-06 Thread Bart Martens
to be completed before an additional license or license version would be added to the list ? How to deal with mistakes on the list ? Do we have sufficient volunteers with sufficient legal knowledge to maintain such list ? Maybe this part should be dealt with further on debian-legal. Regards, Bart Martens

Re: Validity of DFSG #10

2013-01-05 Thread Bart Martens
but a statement giving example compared to other DFSG's I agree that DFSG #10 is just a list of examples, not really a guideline as the G in DFSG. so even I feel it is better to drop DFSG #10. That is a choice we could make. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ

Re: ditching the official use logo?

2012-10-13 Thread Bart Martens
on the camp of we need/should keep the restricted logo). I consider this an acceptable compromise. I second the patch (I was in the camp of put the bottle logo in a museum.) As Henrique wrote, the patch is an acceptable compromise. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian

Re: ditching the official use logo?

2012-10-01 Thread Bart Martens
history or so. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121001104009.gc3...@master.debian.org

Re: New Debian Maintainer Jose Parella

2007-11-17 Thread Bart Martens
will be known as the Debian Maintainer Keyring team. Changes to the team may be made by the DPL under the normal rules for delegations. So the GR text doesn't seem to require a public discussion nor a public announcement. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: Linux for a school

2007-11-08 Thread Bart Martens
/Linux is documented here: http://www.debian.org/distrib/ There are also vendors in South Africa listed: http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/#za Hope this helps, Bart Martens Regards, PNJ IT Solutions for Vaalpark High School. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: call for seconds - request for removal of DM registrations

2007-10-29 Thread Bart Martens
On Sun, 2007-10-28 at 09:22 +0100, Bart Martens wrote: Dear DD's, I think that Joerg was very reasonable with this message: http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2007/10/msg00115.html The debate that followed doesn't seem to lead to a solution that makes the existing DM registrations

Re: Debian Maintainers

2007-10-28 Thread Bart Martens
On Sun, 2007-10-28 at 11:04 +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 09:55:57AM +0200, Bart Martens wrote: I'm sure that the intentions are good, but Joerg has a point about these three DM's. Maybe it is better to replace these three DM registrations in the DM keyring by three

Re: call for seconds - request for removal of DM registrations

2007-10-28 Thread Bart Martens
candidates. and not in the DM keyring maintenance team. I'm not blaming the DM keyring maintenance team for having a different view on the liberties that come with being a member of the DM keyring maintenance team. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Re: Debian Maintainers

2007-10-28 Thread Bart Martens
the DM keyring before all documentation and tools are ready. As long as granting upload rights to non-DD's is done following the rules of the voted GR. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: call for seconds - request for removal of DM registrations

2007-10-28 Thread Bart Martens
On Sun, 2007-10-28 at 14:57 +0200, Kalle Kivimaa wrote: Bart Martens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The good reasons for requesting the removal of inappropriate additions to the DM keyring are Why is it better to introduce more work for the DM Keyring team than ask a simple apology? Granting

Re: Debian Maintainers

2007-10-26 Thread Bart Martens
owned by DD's. Then nobody can complain about real DM's already being added without following the rules. I'm willing to help if you're interested. http://knars.be/bartm/DM/DM_beta_test_bartm_pubkey.asc I guess that it's not so difficult to find two other volunteering DD's. Right ? :) Regards, Bart

Re: Debian Maintainers

2007-10-26 Thread Bart Martens
On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 09:55 +0200, Bart Martens wrote: On Thu, 2007-10-25 at 22:38 -0400, Joey Hess wrote: The current 3 people in the DM keyring agreed to be beta testers of the process, and I don't anticipate us adding more people until everything is fully implemented and tested. I'm

Re: Debian Maintainers

2007-10-26 Thread Bart Martens
to joeyh. :) IMO the whole GR is just wrong, Hmm... let's not go into that. :) but that doesnt mean we should ignore whats written in it. Yes, the voted GR must be respected, or we could as well stop voting GR's. Regards, Bart Martens signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed

Re: please

2007-06-06 Thread Bart Martens
On Wed, 2007-06-06 at 10:06 +0200, walter wrote: I've lost a lot of time and plastic trying to download your dvds, cds. All corrupt. It seems you or somebody else don't want people know about your distro. What were the problems you experienced ? Regards, Bart Martens signature.asc

wrong list (Re: Install KDE Language Package Problam)

2007-04-30 Thread Bart Martens
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stable / backports (Re: When Debian 4.1 will arrive... will anyone care?)

2007-04-20 Thread Bart Martens
On Fri, 2007-04-20 at 15:17 +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: contrary to popular belief and self-delusion, 'stable+backports' is NO LONGER STABLE. That is of course true. the only 'advantage' to using 'stable+backports' over 'stable+some packages from unstable or testing' is that you don't have

updates in stable do happen

2007-04-10 Thread Bart Martens
need an update, then you are very welcome to suggest an update by following the procedure described here [2]. [1]: http://www.debian.org/ [2]: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/ch-pkgs.en.html#s-upload-stable Regards, Bart Martens signature.asc Description

Re: ideas....

2007-04-07 Thread Bart Martens
in Debian, and focus on the interesting parts: the software. Regards, Bart Martens signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: what to concider during the election of the DPL

2007-03-19 Thread Bart Martens
On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 00:40 +, MJ Ray wrote: the strongest leader is someone who leads many other strong people to push in the same direction, building consensus. Yes, absolutely. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Re: Proposal: Handling of changelog bug closures in Debian derived distros

2006-11-14 Thread Bart Martens
. If not then I wonder if Debian should do the efforts. So I'd propose to extend the changelog format I have not yet studied your proposal, because I want to get some bugs fixed before etch releases. :) Regards, Bart Martens signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Non-DDs right to speak on mailing lists

2006-08-24 Thread Bart Martens
On Thu, 2006-08-24 at 10:38 +0200, Marc Haber wrote: On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 05:39:43PM -0500, Peter Samuelson wrote: He didn't use the [EMAIL PROTECTED] address. It was clear to me that he was speaking as a developer, not as the DPL. But he has repeatedly suggested when speaking as a