Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-discuss-discuss-discuss-and-keep-discussing] ...

2012-12-04 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
On 12/04/2012 10:36 PM, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le mardi 04 décembre 2012 à 13:38 -0600, Gunnar Wolf a écrit : People, (most of) the Swiss team is pissed with the lack of trust and lack of respect we have been showing for months already, and that now some very vocal outsiders (i.e. Debian

Re: How to Debian License

2010-08-25 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
On 25.08.2010 13:41, Changwoo Ryu wrote: 2010/8/25 김기찬kkc.sk...@gmail.com: 한국어 ( Korean ) 안녕하세요. 한국에서 고등학교를 다니고 있는 학생입니다. 2009년에 Debian을 접하게 되었는데 Radhat 계열보다 쉬운 운용에 감탄하며 사용중이었습니다. 하지만 시중에는 Debian에 관한 책이 없어서 공부하는데 힘들었습니다. 그래서 제 후배들과 Debian을 공부하려는 리눅스유저를 위하여 책을 쓰려고 합니다. Debian Linux를 영리목적으로

Re: DEP-5 meta: New co-driver; current issues

2010-08-12 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
On 12.08.2010 16:28, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: On 08/12/2010 03:27 PM, Lars Wirzenius wrote: On to, 2010-08-12 at 14:59 +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: On 08/12/2010 02:45 PM, Lars Wirzenius wrote: It would be good to have DEP-5 done quite early in the squeeze+1 development cycle to give as much

Re: DEP-5 and public domain

2010-08-11 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
On 02.08.2010 23:27, Russ Allbery wrote: Very, very little software is actually truly public domain. US law, for instance, makes it essentially impossible to place something in the public domain via any mechanism other than dying and waiting 75 years (or whatever it is now). Not really.

Re: The role of debian-private

2010-06-10 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
On Wed, Jun 09, 2010 at 03:46:13PM +, Clint Adams wrote: On Wed, Jun 09, 2010 at 04:52:42PM +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: I don't think traffic shoudl be keep at minimun, it is not a important list. We don't hide problem, so important things are send to d-d-a (which is the only

Re: The role of debian-private

2010-06-10 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
On 10.06.2010 16:16, Clint Adams wrote: On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 02:30:51PM +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: As wrote by Jonas, there is a risk of cabalization. Good discussion could also start from off-topic bad threads. I don't care if there's a cabal to discuss whether or not America, Hy

Re: The role of debian-private

2010-06-09 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
On 09.06.2010 16:08, Enrico Zini wrote: Hello, there is a discussion in debian-private about the role of debian-private. There is nothing private in that discussion, so I'm following it up here. So, some people are advocating in favour of a private mailing list for DD chatter. The fact that

Re: Using project resources for blends and non-free

2010-01-11 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
On 11.01.2010 10:00, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: This would mean adding a little load to buildd.d.o (which, looking at its current status, is negligible) and slightly increase the security risks as we now have more buildds connecting to this host. The latter should not be a problem, as buildds

Re: Debian money

2009-09-10 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Steve McIntyre wrote: 1 New hardware / equipment a The DSA team have a wishlist of new hardware they'd like, along with a set of donated machines that need configuring and/or shipping. As far as I'm concerned, so long as the individual requests here look reasonable then they

Re: Debian money

2009-09-10 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: [Frans Pop] b Gnash. Petter is very keen on this, but I'm not so sure. Don't they have other ways to get funding? Thoughts? I don't think Debian as a project should sponsor upstream development. That's up to individual DDs. A working free software

Re: Switching the default startup method

2009-08-24 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Martin Wuertele wrote: Hi Steve! * Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org [2009-08-24 10:03]: The main thing I know about file-rc is that it's a corner case that further breaks upgrade handling when packages need to renumber their symlinks in /etc/rc?.d. I know embedded is often used as a

Re: Debian decides to adopt time-based release freezes

2009-08-04 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Patrick Schoenfeld wrote: Hi, On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 06:40:06PM +0200, Sandro Tosi wrote: THEY STEAL our packages Uarg. That sentence let me discard everything sensible/intelligent you might have said in your mail. I often read sentences like that in the discussion. It makes me sick and

Freezing times: [Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion]

2009-07-31 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Luk Claes wrote: time-based freezes == For the squeeze release (and future releases), we are considering a time-based freeze, meaning that the freeze will happen at a predictable and predetermined time with the release happening at a later time once the release requirements are

Re: DAM and NEW queues processing

2009-06-25 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Bernd Zeimetz wrote: Mike Hommey wrote: On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 01:32:14AM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: Don Armstrong wrote: On Wed, 24 Jun 2009, Steve Langasek wrote: Ok - then I guess my problem is that the list of names included in these is so non-notable (and is empty most weeks

Re: DAM and NEW queues processing

2009-06-23 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Lucas Nussbaum wrote: On 23/06/09 at 12:55 +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: Lucas Nussbaum wrote: On 23/06/09 at 12:06 +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: No way. Most reports show that a lot of NMs don't know about a lot of things asked during the NM process. This is true even for those who are DM

Re: DAM and NEW queues processing

2009-06-23 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Bernd Zeimetz wrote: Charles Plessy wrote: Le Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:30:53AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum a écrit : - the NEW queue could also be based on peer-review: one could ask one or two another DDs to certify that the package is OK (licensing-wise) to be uploaded to unstable. Then

Re: Draft vote on constitutional issues

2009-05-14 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 10:53 +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: DFSG is a guideline and a target: we must no go far as the nearest point we reached, but it still a guideline. Consider: - we never had a full DFSG Debian (also when DFSG was written) - we have RC also

Re: Draft vote on constitutional issues

2009-05-13 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 17:06 +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: I think this is the core of the disagreement. I do not call it a temporary override of a foundation document; I call it a temporary practical consensus between the needs of our users and the needs of the free

Re: Debian Membership

2009-03-16 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Matthew Johnson wrote: My goals with changing the membership procedures are: - To turn NM into a more evolutionary process where some privileges and rights are granted earlier in the process and the qualifications for the later parts are based mainly on the work

Re: Discussion: Possible GR: Enhance requirements for General Resolutions

2009-01-06 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Joerg Jaspert wrote: Hi, I have felt for some time that the low requirement for seconds on General Resolutions is something that should be fixed. We are over 1000 Developers, if you can't find more than 5 people supporting your idea, its most probably not worth it taking time of everyone.

Re: More frequent dinstall runs and mirror pushes

2008-12-05 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Joerg Jaspert wrote: Hi as the subject says, we are planning to increase the frequency of dinstall[1] runs. Our current plan is to have 4 runs a day, switching From the current [07|19]:52 schedule to the new [01|07|13|19]:52 schedule. All times are in UTC. For the mirror network, this means

Re: Debian's job is not to help people who think the world is unfair

2008-11-27 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Jurij Smakov wrote: On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 06:17:45PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Gunnar Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008.11.26.1807 +0100]: And no, it's not Debian's flaw or problem - but Wolfgang's complaint is IMHO very well in place. It will reach the clueless HR recruiter, and

Re: Developer Status

2008-10-25 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 04:30:31PM +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: Joey Schulze wrote: Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: To cite an extreme example, Ingo Juergensman doesn't do packaging nor anything of the above. Nevertheless, he's an active member of the Debian

bureaucracy (Re: Developer Status)

2008-10-24 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Thu, Oct 23 2008, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: Joerg nominated teams, not persons. My and the people involved should be read as and the number of teams involved. I don't think nominated is the correct term here. Joerg did not nominate the secretary

Re: Developer Status

2008-10-24 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Joerg Jaspert wrote: Developer Status I start loving more this proposal. Debian is about developing a free operating system, but there's more in an operating system than just software and packages. If we want translators, documentation writers, artists, free software

Re: Developer Status

2008-10-24 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Joey Schulze wrote: Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: Joerg Jaspert wrote: Developer Status I start loving more this proposal. Debian is about developing a free operating system, but there's more in an operating system than just software and packages. If we want translators

Re: Developer Status

2008-10-24 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Joey Schulze wrote: Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: To cite an extreme example, Ingo Juergensman doesn't do packaging nor anything of the above. Nevertheless, he's an active member of the Debian community for many years (even despite severe problems) by supporting the m68k port with hosts

Re: Developer Status

2008-10-23 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Joerg Jaspert wrote: Developer Status This was initially written by me, then discussed within DAM (so take us two for we) and then discussed with DSA, FTPMaster, Keyring-Maint, Secretary, FrontDesk and the DPL. Reading the proposal and the people involved, I think the

Re: Developer Status

2008-10-23 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Thu, Oct 23 2008, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: Reading the proposal and the people involved, I think the proposal is to complex and bureaucratic and it doesn't fit to the Debian structure. If you are not looking at the proposal on its merits, but you

Re: Debian and non-free

2008-09-18 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Manoj Srivastava wrote: I think that dilutes the message that those packages are non-free, and reduces pressure on the authors to release the documentation under a free license. main non-free programs documents firmware

Re: FSF not considering Debian as Free (Re: Debian and non-free)

2008-09-17 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Filipus Klutiero wrote: I could help to set-up the infrastructure and providing the non-free.org domain, but I don't think I have enough infrastructure to handle the machines. I'm afraid you'd be wasting your time. I don't think the problem is the domain name hosting non-free. Richard

Re: confusion about non-free (Re: Bits from the Debian Eee PC team, summer 2008)

2008-08-05 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Russ Allbery wrote: Giacomo Catenazzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Russ Allbery wrote: I recommend not attributing such judgements to the configuration files of software packages. Sorry??? It is more that a configuration file, and BTW the same notation it is also used by apt. Archive

Re: confusion about non-free (Re: Bits from the Debian Eee PC team, summer 2008)

2008-08-04 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Robert Millan wrote: [ adding debian-project ] On Sun, Aug 03, 2008 at 01:53:54PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: On Sun, Aug 03, 2008 at 08:28:19AM -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote: Earliest Eee models fully supported in Lenny Lenny will release with the atl2 ethernet driver and the non-free

Re: Making Debian work: a question of trust indeed

2007-11-21 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
MJ Ray wrote: martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sam's mail was to James, CC the project. Don't you think that it's a little immature and definitely very premature to discuss the matter before James sent his own reply? Yep. Hopefully a reply will come. I also hope there was an attempt

Re: Screw non-free.

2004-03-18 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Adrian Bunk wrote: On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 12:28:59PM +, Colin Watson wrote: I've started occasionally building powerpc non-free packages with a private sbuild installation (I should set up buildd too, but haven't got round to it). It's relatively slow work since I need to check the

Re: IMPORTANT/URGENT - PLEASE REMOVE MY NAME FROM YOUR SITE!

2003-03-12 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Hmm According zurich police web site (from memory), mails written in this form: - subject with IMPORTANT/URGENT, capitalized - capitalized body - name of some not yet well developed country - ... should be taken as nigerian spam, thus deleted immediatly or ev. reported to police :-)