Re: About the recent DD retirements

2015-01-30 Thread Matthias Urlichs
to be as backwards compatible as possible. -- -- Matthias Urlichs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150130122250.ga17...@smurf.noris.de

Re: Systemd

2015-01-22 Thread Matthias Urlichs
) care about, namely logind. Probably because re-implementing all of logind is significantly more work than writing that shim. Even if you *do* have to do it twice, due to changing internals. -- -- Matthias Urlichs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject

Re: Systemd

2015-01-21 Thread Matthias Urlichs
this email before you finished writing it. In any case, you are not. -- -- Matthias Urlichs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150121165802.ga4

Re: Interpreting the init system GR results

2014-11-20 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Tollef Fog Heen: Matthias Urlichs Too true. This GR does not have winners. We all lost. No, we all won. We won because we said that «we have processes for this». We do have processes for this, but the interaction of reasonable people and working processes with not-so-reasonable

Re: Interpreting the init system GR results

2014-11-19 Thread Matthias Urlichs
from that judgement. But we should strive to be. -- -- Matthias Urlichs signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Being part of a community and behaving

2014-11-14 Thread Matthias Urlichs
bother? -- -- Matthias Urlichs signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Being part of a community and behaving

2014-11-14 Thread Matthias Urlichs
. Not the only example. This process, when repeated, causes rifts that seem un-bridge-able. -- -- Matthias Urlichs signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Reminder: Removing 2048 bit keys from the Debian keyrings

2014-11-13 Thread Matthias Urlichs
asked why I haven't submitted a new key yet. The English language overlays ask in a way ('ask to …' vs. 'ask why/how …') which seems to confirm your quote that -- Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat. -- -- Matthias Urlichs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ

Re: Time for compassion and the Init GR

2014-11-06 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, zlatan: Sam, this is wonderful. Thanks on taking time to write this up. Seconded. ;-) NB: please don't fullquote unnecessarily. -- -- Matthias Urlichs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-11 Thread Matthias Urlichs
. -- -- Matthias Urlichs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140811153404.gk15...@smurf.noris.de

Re: Maximum term for tech ctte members

2014-05-26 Thread Matthias Urlichs
on the TC; at the same time, Keith needs to step down due to other looming responsibilities -- do we dismiss both of them, or do we value continuity and only elect one new TC member (along with any others whose term ends at that time, of course)? -- -- Matthias Urlichs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: A question about patches for upstream

2014-05-06 Thread Matthias Urlichs
as it used/is generally perceived to be. -- -- Matthias Urlichs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140506172059.ga12...@smurf.noris.de

Re: The Code of Conduct needs specifics

2014-03-24 Thread Matthias Urlichs
. They won't listen anyway. This CoC asks the rest of us to be more mindful so that we don't become, or support (if only by inaction), offenders. -- -- Matthias Urlichs signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: The Code of Conduct needs specifics

2014-03-24 Thread Matthias Urlichs
be allowed because it's not on the list should get double penalty, just for playing armchair lawyer. :-P -- -- Matthias Urlichs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https

Re: Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems

2014-03-02 Thread Matthias Urlichs
*not* for the better. -- -- Matthias Urlichs signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems - Linux IS about CHOICE

2014-03-02 Thread Matthias Urlichs
*Plonk*. -- -- Matthias Urlichs signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: GR proposal: code of conduct

2014-02-25 Thread Matthias Urlichs
readily available at mulitple places, but the person who asks in the channel is too inexperienced / lazy / stupid ^w clueless to actually find it. We all have been guilty of all three of these, at one time or another. -- -- Matthias Urlichs signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: GR proposal: code of conduct

2014-02-25 Thread Matthias Urlichs
. -- -- Matthias Urlichs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140225200136.ga24...@smurf.noris.de

Re: State of the debian keyring

2014-02-24 Thread Matthias Urlichs
maintainers. A list of strong keys in the keyring as of now should be sufficent. -- -- Matthias Urlichs signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: State of the debian keyring

2014-02-23 Thread Matthias Urlichs
, Alice must get a Debian developer […] to sign a message requesting the replacement of key X with key Y on behalf of Alice … which IMHO is an unnecessary burden if Alice's old and new key are valid and sufficiently DD-signed. -- -- Matthias Urlichs signature.asc Description: Digital

Re: Respect (was Re: Some Comments on Sexism in #debian)

2004-03-27 Thread Matthias Urlichs
yours. -- Matthias Urlichs

Re: Just a single Question for the Candidates

2004-03-11 Thread Matthias Urlichs
with an environment where that's the group standard. -- Matthias Urlichs

Re: Just a single Question for the Candidates

2004-03-11 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Jonathan Walther wrote: On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 11:37:47AM -0800, Matt Zimmerman wrote: EOT. *plonk* I guess that means you concede my point. Thanks for reading. *ROTLF* No, it means that _you_ concede the point, except that you don't even realize it. -- Matthias Urlichs

Re: Just a single Question for the Candidates

2004-03-10 Thread Matthias Urlichs
the quality of the code and not about the inherent inability of the author to write better code, have better ideas, etc. Quite a lot of people don't see any particular distinction betwen the two. Your argument seems to show that you don't either. That's part of the problem. -- Matthias Urlichs

Re: Just a single Question for the Candidates

2004-03-10 Thread Matthias Urlichs
. Introducing that falsehood into the argument as an axiom is not the fault of the non-Gerbil person, but the mistake (deliberate or otherwise) of the perope accusing him to be one. -- Matthias Urlichs

Re: Just a single Question for the Candidates

2004-03-10 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Jonathan Walther wrote: 1. Don't pander to us just because we're women. Why not? There are standards of civility, and those standards include acting like a gentleman. ... towards *everybody*, not just towards women. Which is exactly her point. -- Matthias Urlichs

Re: Some Comments on Sexism in #debian

2004-03-09 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Jonathan Walther wrote: Lukas, I see that you are coming from a position of a lot of hurt and pain. I empathize with your suffering. How can we list-members help you out? Priceless. *PLONK*. -- Matthias Urlichs

Re: Some Comments on Sexism in #debian

2004-03-09 Thread Matthias Urlichs
, Policing only controls what you do -- abusive language, disruptive behavior, belittling others, etc. Not being a participant in #debian, I don't know which is more of a problem, nor whether the kind of sexism we're talking about would be covered by the latter. -- Matthias Urlichs

Re: Re: Just a single Question for the Candidates

2004-03-09 Thread Matthias Urlichs
-restraint here. It'd improve some things besides our men/women ratio. :-/ -- Matthias Urlichs

Re: Skolelinux and the Debian Labs idea

2003-10-11 Thread Matthias Urlichs
-exempting donations. For instance, developing a free text-to-speech system would probably qualify (it benefits blind people), while a free device driver for controlling industrial robots probably wouldn't. Disclaimer: Again, that's the approximate situation in Germany. -- Matthias Urlichs

Re: Skolelinux and the Debian Labs idea

2003-10-10 Thread Matthias Urlichs
and activities are (free public education, for instance). -- Matthias Urlichs | {M:U} IT Design @ m-u-it.de | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Disclaimer: The quote was selected randomly. Really. | http://smurf.noris.de - - INCOME VAX - What one shouts when the VAX is delivered.

Re: FSF has stopped linking to Debian website

2003-09-27 Thread Matthias Urlichs
the GFDL fiasco, which I personally think is one of the reasons the Debian link was dropped. There's the fact that RMS uses a laptop. Are there any laptops with a free BIOS? Somehow I doubt that. QED. Followups should probably go to gnu.misc.discuss, however ... -- Matthias Urlichs | {M:U

Re: Skolelinux and the Debian Labs idea

2003-09-16 Thread Matthias Urlichs
is a trademark of SPI and that SDL is an independent organization / part of something-else, would work very well. -- Matthias Urlichs | {M:U} IT Design @ m-u-it.de | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Disclaimer: The quote was selected randomly. Really. | http://smurf.noris.de - - :copy protection: n. A class