Re: NM = good, DD = bad

2008-08-11 Thread Paul Johnson
etails if they have a problem. The method you seem to have picked instead is to accuse people of this and that in opinion wrapped in a metaphor, then demanding that be fixed. Perhaps if what you were trying to accomplish didn't seem like a non-sequitor to reasonably intelligent, rational people, y

Re: Open Invention Network

2008-07-06 Thread Paul Johnson
; that. I'm pretty sure that afterwards, they will withdraw their offer > to join. Shouldn't they approach SPI instead? -- Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Getting Spidered and Spammed via Debian

2008-06-17 Thread Paul Johnson
e list archive, and click on the report-as-spam link. I strongly recommend you install bogofilter, spamassassin or similar software and use a mail client aware of those tools (such as evolution), or learn how to use them via procmail and pipes. -- Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Descr

Re: Happy with Debian

2008-06-16 Thread Paul Johnson
the software you use, rather than the other way around? -- Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-02-26 Thread Paul Johnson
Stephen R Laniel wrote: > On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 11:03:59AM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> Please quit top posting. > > Here is a script that I banged out in a few minutes, which > surely needs much improvement but will hopefully go some way > toward making the top-posting "debate" -- which

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-29 Thread Paul Johnson
Floris Bruynooghe wrote: > On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 09:40:52PM +0100, Norbert Preining wrote: >> On Sam, 27 Jan 2007, Piotr Dziubinski wrote: >> > Iceweasel and Firefox are a different products, very similar, but >> > different. >> >> Can YOU please explain me what *important* differences there ar

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-28 Thread Paul Johnson
Please don't top post, we all read English in chronological (not random) order. http://wiki.ursine.ca/Best_Online_Quoting_Practices Piotr Dziubinski wrote: > Only Etch supports amd64, so I was forced to use Etch. > > Command I have used: > apt-get install firefox > > NOT > apt-get install icewe

Re: Concerns with Open/OS Corporate Linux ads?

2006-08-29 Thread Paul Johnson
ion that they're just doing a cut-and-run on the process instead of being part of the cure. > Should we do anything about this? If so, what? Perhaps ask them kindly to either contribute their work back to Debian, or stop using "Debian" in their advertising and packaging. --

Re: No more bugreports from me.

2006-08-16 Thread Paul Johnson
spammers to get your email address even if you are making it harder for real people to email you, it just doesn't work like that. -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk): [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: Because it's time to move forward http://jabber.ursine.ca/ pgpvO912avX5t.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Help

2006-08-15 Thread Paul Johnson
d hope for the sake of MS patients that being self-interested and obnoxious really isn't how you conduct yourself and your org in person or on the internet. -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk): [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: Because it's time to move forward http://jabber.ursine.ca/ pgpLvYubKIAuj.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: No more bugreports from me.

2006-08-15 Thread Paul Johnson
al information, > including my main e-mail address, then he send it further to the public > dpkg list. But he did. You said he could. That's your fault. Besides, the moment you ever used your email address it became public information. Deal with it. -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (X

Re: irc.debian.org

2006-05-14 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sunday 14 May 2006 12:23, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Sat, May 13, 2006 at 04:31:16PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Saturday 13 May 2006 16:03, Christoph Berg wrote: > > > Re: Paul Johnson 2006-05-14 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > Why does it ne

Re: irc.debian.org

2006-05-13 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 13 May 2006 16:03, Christoph Berg wrote: > Re: Paul Johnson 2006-05-14 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Why does it necessarily have to be IRC? Jabber fixes a lot of IRC's > > shortcomings, without bringing along all the political drama and baggage > >

Re: irc.debian.org

2006-05-13 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 13 May 2006 15:12, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: > On Sat, 2006-05-13 at 14:58 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > Most Jabber servers... > > topic is -irc-.debian.org, iirc Why does it necessarily have to be IRC? Jabber fixes a lot of IRC's shortcomings, without br

Re: irc.debian.org

2006-05-13 Thread Paul Johnson
conf6 wlan.:) Most Jabber servers support or require SSL connections and transparently provides what should have been basic functionality in IRC but ended up tacked on as nickserv and chanserv without having to deal with the insecurity and unreliability of most nickserv and chanserv implementa

Re: irc.debian.org

2006-05-02 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tuesday 02 May 2006 16:19, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 03:52:33PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Tuesday 02 May 2006 08:40, Cord Beermann wrote: > > > >Why not move it to Jabber? More people use and know what Jabber is > > > > these

Re: irc.debian.org

2006-05-02 Thread Paul Johnson
, just like Windows. Isn't it time the world moved on already? -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk): [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: Because it's time to move forward http://ursine.ca/Ursine:Jabber pgpoXGApJeQ27.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: irc.debian.org

2006-04-30 Thread Paul Johnson
essaging Client. > > It is not IRC though, so this point is moot. This thread is about IRC, > let's not get into discussions about instant messaging systems in > general. On the other hand, more users in general, and certainly new users to Debian, are more likely to know about J

Re: irc.debian.org

2006-04-30 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sunday 30 April 2006 13:46, Frans Pop wrote: > On Sunday 30 April 2006 22:32, Paul Johnson wrote: > > Why not move it to Jabber? More people use and know what Jabber is > > these days than IRC. > > Just to prove you wrong: what the hell is Jabber? Jabber is an open I

Re: irc.debian.org

2006-04-30 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sunday 30 April 2006 14:05, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Paul Johnson: > > Why not move it to Jabber? More people use and know what Jabber is > > these days than IRC. > > Really? jabber.debian.net does not seem to accept new users. I don't know about jabber.debian.

Re: irc.debian.org

2006-04-30 Thread Paul Johnson
at I'm (currently) not on any freenode channels at > all. Why not move it to Jabber? More people use and know what Jabber is these days than IRC. -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk): [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: Because it's time to move forward http://ursine.ca

Re: Just a second of your time

2006-04-22 Thread Paul Johnson
I ala > "Windows" but I'm interested in trying to move away from the jugernaut. If > you don't mind giving me info or even a website so I can research my own > question. I just don't know where to look first http://debian.org/ -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP &am

Re: Debian Subscription

2006-04-13 Thread Paul Johnson
. And if you want to have money go to Debian, it's better to give directly instead of looking for the "Every N dollars from purchase gets donated" type prize in the box. http://www.debian.org/donations -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk): [EMAIL PROTE

Re: help

2006-04-05 Thread Paul Johnson
System, never X Windows) running KDE, then you'll want to type su at that prompt, type in your root password when it says Password: and then type apt-get install x-window-system kde at the # prompt. -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk): [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: Becau

Re: Honesty in Debian (was Re: Amendment to GR on GFDL, and the changes to the Social Contract

2006-02-14 Thread Paul Johnson
a deal with the devil (silicon Graphics) to not-develop their own hardware. -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk): [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: Because it's time to move forward http://ursine.ca/Ursine:Jabber -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Linux Forums

2006-01-24 Thread Paul Johnson
Debian lists require you use Reply to List, *not* Reply-to-All. On Tuesday 24 January 2006 07:39, Andreas Schuldei wrote: > * Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-01-24 06:47:02]: > > On Tuesday 24 January 2006 00:33, Andreas Schuldei wrote: > > But nobody else would us

Re: For those who care about their packages in Ubuntu

2006-01-24 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tuesday 24 January 2006 00:08, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Le lundi 23 janvier 2006, Paul Johnson a écrit : > > On Sunday 22 January 2006 03:16, David Weinehall wrote: > > > Since all Ubuntu packages are recompiled against a different set of > > > libraries, the bu

Re: Linux Forums

2006-01-24 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tuesday 24 January 2006 00:33, Andreas Schuldei wrote: > * Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-01-23 17:23:07]: > > How does Debian win from encouraging people to split off saying, "Don't > > use the mailing lists, use this third-party forum nobody uses instea

Re: For those who care about their packages in Ubuntu

2006-01-23 Thread Paul Johnson
rything, pretends there is cooperation where there is none, and merely duplicates the effort of the debian-desktop project, and contributes nothing to the community or society, what's stopping us from officially discouraging Ubuntu's existence? -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP &

Re: Linux Forums

2006-01-23 Thread Paul Johnson
eing run > by Jeroen van Wolffelaar and I've been trying to pitch in a little bit over > there too. How does Debian win from encouraging people to split off saying, "Don't use the mailing lists, use this third-party forum nobody uses instead?" -- Paul Johnson Email and I

Re: Linux Forums

2006-01-23 Thread Paul Johnson
he official forums are at http://lists.debian.org/ We use mailing lists as web boards tend to be hard to search, difficult to use and annoying to read compared to formats that allow you to choose the software you use to read and respond with. -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Ta

Re: Help

2006-01-23 Thread Paul Johnson
and is there anything else that i have to do to > install the driver. You need to stop any X displays you are using and run that command from a console. How you do this depends on how you're running X. -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk): [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: B

Re: For those who care about their packages in Ubuntu

2006-01-17 Thread Paul Johnson
from Ubuntu users and developers alike that this is Planet Ubuntu. -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk): [EMAIL PROTECTED] Got Jabber? http://ursine.ca/Ursine:Jabber pgpJOBKFvNCWw.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: mailbox clogging, need daily "digests" of the list

2006-01-17 Thread Paul Johnson
t; Or automatic sorting of messages in sub-boxes? This violates gmail's philosophy of "search, don't sort." Gmail isn't really suited for mailing list reading in general, between the really underpowered sorting and lack of Reply to List. -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (

Re: mailbox clogging, need daily "digests" of the list

2006-01-17 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tuesday 17 January 2006 15:19, Madana Prathap wrote: > On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 03:12:42 +0530, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tuesday 17 January 2006 13:33, Madana Prathap wrote: > >> I've been subscribed to 12 debian mailing-lists. As you could imagi

Re: mailbox clogging, need daily "digests" of the list

2006-01-17 Thread Paul Johnson
f individual mails. Send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject help should tell you if it's possible. -- Paul Johnson Email and Instant Messenger (Jabber): [EMAIL PROTECTED] Got jabber? http://ursine.ca/Ursine:Jabber pgpfK9GlsymZc.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Ubuntu/Debian cooperation [was: Complaint about #debian operator]

2005-12-15 Thread Paul Johnson
patches which should *not* go into debian. > > A good idea for Ubuntu to ease this would be to actively work on the > dpkg patches that are needed to allow multiple .diff files for a > package. Wouldn't it save everybody a lot of heartache and bother if Ubuntu just worked on D

Re: Complaint about #debian operator

2005-12-13 Thread Paul Johnson
s a difficult time > providing accountability." With friends like Ubuntu and Josh Rehman, who needs enemies? -- Paul Johnson Email and Instant Messenger (Jabber): [EMAIL PROTECTED] Got jabber? http://ursine.ca/Ursine:Jabber pgpncyoZHDseq.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Complaint about #debian operator

2005-12-12 Thread Paul Johnson
h, is the Ubuntu users make an hourly habit of trolling #debian, making intelligent discussion on the matter totally, 100% impossible at best in #debian. #debian is not #ubuntu. -- Paul Johnson Email and Instant Messenger (Jabber): [EMAIL PROTECTED] Got jabber? http://ursine.ca/Ursine:Jabber pgp4

Re: Complaint about #debian operator

2005-12-11 Thread Paul Johnson
t answers without any effort (these people really should be going to http://www.debian.org/consultants/ instead and pay for our time) tend to get particularly antsy about it. -- Paul Johnson Email and Instant Messenger (Jabber): [EMAIL PROTECTED] Got jabber? http://ursine.ca/Ursine:Jabber pgpMfUr8dCySz.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Complaint about #debian operator

2005-12-11 Thread Paul Johnson
d *highly* recommend altering the support page and/or > setting down clear guidlines for channel operators. It might be good > to find an operator who is humble, helpful, patient and intelligent. Oh, that's why you're not finding what you're looking for, you're looking in e

Re: Complaint about #debian operator

2005-12-11 Thread Paul Johnson
AQ before saying something is in any way, shape or form anything other than harmful in the short and long term. -- Paul Johnson Email and Instant Messenger (Jabber): [EMAIL PROTECTED] Got jabber? http://ursine.ca/Ursine:Jabber pgpPAF2c7IJA9.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Complaint about #debian operator

2005-12-11 Thread Paul Johnson
whenever ubuntu gets mentioned, it's immediately followed by /kick ubuntu-peon "This channel is for Debian users, not you" /mode +b ubuntu-peon -- Paul Johnson Email and Instant Messenger (Jabber): [EMAIL PROTECTED] Got jabber? http://ursine.ca/Ursine:Jabber pgpd0vYjPtwBL.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Complaint about #debian operator

2005-12-11 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 10 December 2005 05:45 am, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.12.10.1358 +0100]: > > So they can go join #ubuntu. Honestly, not that hard. Type it > > with me now: > > > > /join #ubuntu > > Why should a

Re: Complaint about #debian operator

2005-12-10 Thread Paul Johnson
Honestly, not that hard. Type it with me now: /join #ubuntu They can probably copy and paste it, even. #debian is debian-user in realtime. Ubuntu isn't on topic in #debian, and it *does* create problems for both channels when people confuse them. -- Paul Johnson Email and Instant Mes

Re: Complaint about #debian operator

2005-12-10 Thread Paul Johnson
gt; external link to read or alternative channel (with the exception of > telling me to take it to #ubuntu which I frankly don't see why an op > there wouldn't tell me to go to #debian...) You were informed of this when you joined the channel. Please read /topic and server messag

Re: Self Destructing Computers...

2005-12-08 Thread Paul Johnson
Be careful when opening electronics that are burning up. Might be a good idea to give them a few minutes. Case in point... http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7870362821870979072 There's the off chance something disrupts the balance in the force, causing the magic smoke to explosively

Re: NOT INTERESTED!

2005-09-08 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thursday 08 September 2005 09:54 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, > > I NOT WANT YOUR DEBIAN PACKAGE AT ALL. STOP BLOCKING THE FREEMAIL.HU WEB > SITE. It's also clear you're not interested in having a clue. Please stop blocking any hint of having a clue. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAI

Re: Sponsering thought

2005-07-29 Thread Paul Johnson
he Debian Project, check out it's social contract at http://www.debian.org/social_contract -- Paul Johnson Email and Instant Messenger (Jabber): [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ursine.ca/~baloo/ pgprXd6ATbL85.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Screenshots

2005-07-04 Thread Paul Johnson
ature and it was disabled on the > site. There are many screenshots available for particular packages. Once you've seen packages under one distro, you've seen them in the rest. Check out various project homepages to see what you should expect. -- Paul Johnson Email and Instant M

Re: debian linux

2005-06-30 Thread Paul Johnson
doc/debian/FAQ/ch-redistrib.en.html#s-sellcds -- Paul Johnson Email and Instant Messenger (Jabber): [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ursine.ca/~baloo/ pgpvaPzWs24Xa.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Branden's mail policies

2005-06-22 Thread Paul Johnson
a whinging loser) http://ursine.ca/Craig_Sanders Or yourself. -- Paul Johnson Email and Instant Messenger (Jabber): [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ursine.ca/~baloo/ pgpPgYyzQ397x.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Branden's mail policies

2005-06-21 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tuesday June 21 2005 9:12 pm, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Sun, Jun 19, 2005 at 05:04:32AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Sunday June 19 2005 3:55 am, martin f krafft wrote: > > > also sprach Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.06.19.1242 +0200]: > > > >

Re: Branden's mail policies

2005-06-19 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sunday June 19 2005 9:32 am, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.06.19.1544 +0200]: > > So punish them specifically. There are blackholes that do that. > > bl.spamcop.net, sbl.spamhaus.org, xbl.spamhaus.org and > > bl.ursine.c

Re: Branden's mail policies

2005-06-19 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sunday June 19 2005 6:22 am, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.06.19.1404 +0200]: > > Why pay someone else to do what I can do myself for free? > > The problem is not you, the problem are the other morons who think > like you

Re: Branden's mail policies

2005-06-19 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sunday June 19 2005 3:55 am, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.06.19.1242 +0200]: > > > And if your argument here is that their provider's mail spool > > > sucks, delays or drops mail, or whatever, well... switch

Re: Branden's mail policies

2005-06-19 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sunday June 19 2005 3:40 am, martin f krafft wrote: > And if your argument here is > that their provider's mail spool sucks, delays or drops mail, or > whatever, well... switch your goddamn provider then. Can't. Monopoly. -- Paul Johnson Email and Instant Messeng

Re: Branden's mail policies

2005-06-19 Thread Paul Johnson
d, you might as well just deny mail from 0.0.0.0/0. -- Paul Johnson Email and Instant Messenger (Jabber): [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ursine.ca/~baloo/ pgpHDLGGJGRTi.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Consultant entries that will be removed unless there is an email address provided

2005-05-30 Thread Paul Johnson
.ursine.ca works *FAR* better than making your address only accessable to spammers by munging. -- Paul Johnson Email and Instant Messenger (Jabber): [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ursine.ca/~baloo/ pgpMW6C2M9XLs.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Please Help

2005-05-11 Thread Paul Johnson
working. Log in, use su -m to get root, then type apt-get install aptitude, wait for it to install, then type aptitude to browse the package listing to find what you're looking for from there. Odds are you were probably expecting the kde and x-window-system packages to be installed. --