Re: GFDL freedoms

2005-04-15 Thread Raul Miller
On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 04:27:08PM -0700, Adam McKenna wrote: > wording of the definition is unfortunate, and needs work, but the real > question is, would any sane person or court really consider a work > that cites another work to be a modified version of the original work? If the work that cite

Re: The Ineffectual DPL?

2004-04-07 Thread Raul Miller
On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 03:12:48PM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: > In effect, the DPL is nothing more than a figurehead, that can change from > year to year. In real life, figureheads are either: [a] inanimate objects, or [b] politicians who are put in place to conceal the real leaders. I don't think

Potential BTS improvements

2004-03-25 Thread Raul Miller
I'm not quite sure what list I should be posting this to. There doesn't seem to be a list specifically for discussion about the bug tracking system (though there are plenty of operational bts lists). As I understand it, we're about to see an upgrade to the bug tracking system where closing a bug

Re: Just a single Question for the Candidates

2004-03-06 Thread Raul Miller
On Sat, Mar 06, 2004 at 11:55:57AM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > On Sat, Mar 06, 2004 at 11:22:06AM +, Peter Samuelson wrote: > > Not that a baby-eating example isn't a bit loaded ... but ok, I'll run > > with it: > > > > "Many orange-haired people have been observed to eat babies. ... ...

Re: Just a single Question for the Candidates

2004-03-06 Thread Raul Miller
On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 09:39:50PM -0500, David Nusinow wrote: > > I can demonstrate evidence that I'm not a gerbil quite handily. On Sat, Mar 06, 2004 at 08:08:49AM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > No you can't, because you're a gerbil and gerbils can't form rational > arguments. If it's true tha

Re: Just a single Question for the Candidates

2004-03-06 Thread Raul Miller
On Sat, Mar 06, 2004 at 09:27:30AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > meekness isn't about bullying. > > it's (partially) about perceiving bullying whether it's really there or not. > it is a disability which varies in severity from being mildly shy to being > socially crippled..it is not the fault

Re: Just a single Question for the Candidates

2004-03-04 Thread Raul Miller
On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 01:10:08PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > Helen said "women are likely to be not so confident that their skills > will allow them to survive in an environment like debian, compared to > their male counterparts". And then, her explanation of what that > "environment" a

Re: Just a single Question for the Candidates

2004-03-04 Thread Raul Miller
On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 12:44:22PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > As I said, "if there is any truth to the notion that men are better at > being bullied". I suspect there is not really much truth to that. Either "men are better at being bullied" a strawman (irrelevant to the thread), or you

Re: Just a single Question for the Candidates

2004-03-04 Thread Raul Miller
On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 02:56:37PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: > I agree, though it should be noted that Debian at least tries to be an > "equal opportunity" hostile place -- _everyone_ gets abused :) Not really equally, however -- more visible people tend to get more abuse than less visible people.

Re: Just a single Question for the Candidates

2004-03-04 Thread Raul Miller
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 06:59:57PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > I think there's something sexist there--not in you, but in her. If > there is any truth to the notion that men are better at being bullied, > then I think it is only because men get bullied more and have had to > learn to deal

Re: I would love to help.

2002-12-02 Thread Raul Miller
Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh, and by the way, you're free to join debian-boot@lists.debian.org > and help implementing whatever you want for the new debian-installer. > This is no cynicism, help is required. On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 09:38:16AM -0800, Xavian-Ander

Re: why Ian Jackson won't discuss the "disputes" document draft with me

2002-11-06 Thread Raul Miller
On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 06:37:29PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > People who take things personally are not going to behave in a rational > manner, and some people just aren't rational; Debian has an ample supply > of both. People who are acting rationally can sort things out on their > own, witho

Re: why Ian Jackson won't discuss the "disputes" document draft with me

2002-11-06 Thread Raul Miller
On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 11:09:41PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > I think that would be wrong, to imply that a bunch of people > had signed on to the draft document without asking them I think a lot of the heatedness in this discussion is a reaction to implications rather than a reaction

Re: why Ian Jackson won't discuss the "disputes" document draft with me

2002-11-05 Thread Raul Miller
On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 01:27:23PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Can I too start writing up documents and claim that they ar4e > joint recommendations of the Technical committee? Since we are no > longer restricted to technical issues, I have a few choice things to > say about the dcma,

Re: TCPA

2002-11-03 Thread Raul Miller
On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 12:19:44PM -0500, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: > The only negative thing I see comming out of TCPA is that content > producers (Hollywood, etc) will release copies of their > movies/music/whatever for download in a format that can only be accessed > on TCPA systems. This is the

Re: Microsoft's plans to kill open source: TCPA

2002-11-02 Thread Raul Miller
On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 11:57:51PM +0100, Hauke Goos-Habermann wrote: > Microsoft plans to kill all OpenSource software on hardware level. This > technology is called TCPA. > What's TCPA in general you can read at the anti-tcpa site: > http://antitcpa.alsherok.net/ Please note that TCPA is vaporw

Re: is Debian an anarchist organization/project?

2002-11-01 Thread Raul Miller
On Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 11:36:57AM +0200, Dmitry Borodaenko wrote: > Not exactly, anarchism just says that you _can't_ have freedom without > being an army. Debian will never have an army -- that would make Debian a government, and would mean that we're way, way, way away from the goals stated in

Re: unoffical debian logos, banners and covers

2002-09-26 Thread Raul Miller
Le Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 04:21:19PM +0300, Volkan YAZICI ?crivait: > >> > there are currently 9 logos, 13 banners, 3 vertical banners, > >> > 5 cd covers, 2 workouts > >> > > >> > adress is http://www.linuks.mine.nu/volkany/ Previously Raphael Hertzog wrote: > >> They are really nice, I like them.

Bug#158533: project: qmail is installed on murphy

2002-09-02 Thread Raul Miller
On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 03:17:55AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Indeed, whether you, or I, personally find qmail to be > inferior or not is only tangentially significant. The only opinion > that matters here is of the people who actually work to administer > and maintain the Debian mai

Bug#158533: project: qmail is installed on murphy

2002-09-02 Thread Raul Miller
> That's bullshit, and you know it. There are over 10,000 > instances in debian where we have taken software, created a patch, > applied it, and distributed the binaries. You asked the question about qmail, not about debian. I answered in that context. -- Raul

Bug#158533: project: qmail is installed on murphy

2002-09-02 Thread Raul Miller
"Raul" == Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Raul> [2] qmail is always redistributed at no or very-low cost and > Raul> almost always in source form. Source can be retained > Raul> indefinitely, and can be redistributed indefinitely. On Sun, Sep 0

Bug#158533: project: qmail is installed on murphy

2002-09-01 Thread Raul Miller
> Package: project > Version: N/A; reported 2002-08-27 > Severity: serious > Justification: violates Social Contract 1, 4, and 5 (maybe others) On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 08:00:10PM +, Brian M. Carlson wrote: > The subject says it all. qmail is installed on murphy.debian.org. qmail > is non-free.

DMUP [was Re: my platform for Debian Project Leader]

2001-02-23 Thread Raul Miller
[DMUP] On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 01:28:17PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > The team I assembled was not very responsive, Agreed. Speaking as one of the people in that group -- I didn't have a good idea of what to propose. -- Raul

Re: two questions for DPL nominees

2001-02-23 Thread Raul Miller
On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 06:46:01PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > (*) please give just brief 1 or 2 paragraph statements of your > positions, not a thesis or argument :) i want to find out what you > think about these issues, not trigger a repeat of the flamewars (so > please, people, just accept th

Re: [PROPOSAL] Allowing crypto in the main archive

2001-01-11 Thread Raul Miller
> > This would be non-DFSG if we couldn't distribute it at all. On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 11:17:05PM -0800, Seth David Schoen wrote: > You can certainly say "this _archive_ is only for the use of residents > of the following countries" and even try to enforce that, as long as > you don't actually tr

Re: [PROPOSAL] Allowing crypto in the main archive

2001-01-11 Thread Raul Miller
On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > > non-US/main, since the license to the software itself is free. On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 02:47:57PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: > But if I don't misunderstand chapter 7 (and 8) of the GPL a program > licenced under the GPL that is threatened by a patent

Re: auto-builders

2000-12-27 Thread Raul Miller
> > Note that both of these require a change to the autobuilders. If the > > unstable builder is wired to ignore anything targetted for "stable" > > or "frozen" and the stable builder is wired to export its changes to > > unstable, then the "stable unstable" target is equivalent to "stable" > > [w

auto-builders

2000-12-27 Thread Raul Miller
On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 01:48:24PM -0500, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > We already have two different build queues; one takes stable, one takes > unstable. The issue is that the stable daemon will take the package > and build it for stable, while the unstable daemon builds it for > unstable, producin

Re: An ammendment (Re: Formal CFV: General Resolution to Abolish Non-Free)

2000-06-15 Thread Raul Miller
On Thu, Jun 15, 2000 at 10:14:54PM -0400, Branden Robinson wrote: > My post was made solely to point out the illogic of Hamish Moffatt's > equivalence between "throwing out the Social Contract on a whim", which was > what he accused John Goerzen of attempting to do, and the text of John's > Genera

Re: An ammendment (Re: Formal CFV: General Resolution to Abolish Non-Free)

2000-06-15 Thread Raul Miller
On Thu, Jun 15, 2000 at 04:26:18PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: > > Please explain what part of the constitution allows for a GR to > > amend the social contract. On Thu, Jun 15, 2000 at 09:23:43PM -0400, Branden Robinson wrote: > How is this a rebuttal? It's not even on point.

Re: An ammendment (Re: Formal CFV: General Resolution to Abolish Non-Free)

2000-06-15 Thread Raul Miller
> On Tue, Jun 13, 2000 at 06:31:50PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > Obviously you have no problem with throwing out the social contract on a > > whim. On Thu, Jun 15, 2000 at 01:34:20PM -0400, Branden Robinson wrote: > Please explain to where the proposed GR mandates this. Please explain what

Re: A rebuttal (was: Re: Formal CFV: General Resolution to Abolish Non-Free)

2000-06-10 Thread Raul Miller
On Sat, Jun 10, 2000 at 03:47:12AM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote: > This is a valid point and regardless of the outcome of this resolution I > am almost insistant that we should also resolve to make the Social > Contract and DFSG require a 3:1 vote to alter, just like the constitution > on the ground

Re: Thank you for responding

2000-06-09 Thread Raul Miller
> > Are you suggesting that this post of mine was not about a development > > issue? On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 10:50:59AM -0500, Bolan Meek wrote: > Not merely suggesting, but pointing out, as in the quote including a > snip from http://www.debian.org/MailingLists (again, below). -devel > is suppos

Supportting Linux, Hurd, FreeBSD, etc. (was Re: Stop Debian/FreeBSD)

1999-11-22 Thread Raul Miller
On Sun, Nov 21, 1999 at 08:53:25PM +0100, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > Well, that's true. But syscall itself is just a libc function. > > Yes, but I am not sure if even a subset of the available syscalls are > standardized across platform anywhere. We should probably concentrate on the subset of

Re: Stop Debian/FreeBSD

1999-11-22 Thread Raul Miller
> > I guess you just can't see how this is different from the case where > > you have two different kernels for the same cpu, and they already have > > the capability of running many of the same binaries? On Sun, Nov 21, 1999 at 02:01:46PM -0500, Clint Adams wrote: > They can? I thought iBCS was

Re: Debian FreeBSD

1999-11-21 Thread Raul Miller
On Sun, Nov 21, 1999 at 01:25:26PM +0100, Stig Sandbeck Mathisen wrote: > What, then, does it take to _be_ debian? Is it the people? The > policy? The debian-administration and package-bulding packages? > Are these less important than any single package? Depends on context. Certainly, the esse

Re: Stop Debian/FreeBSD

1999-11-21 Thread Raul Miller
On Sun, Nov 21, 1999 at 12:33:27PM -0500, Clint Adams wrote: > Sure. Let's get functional i386-emulation for sparc, m68k, and > alpha, and then we can save a whole lot of archive bloat and they > can save the trouble of porting and rebuilding everything. I guess you just can't see how this is dif

Re: Stop Debian/FreeBSD

1999-11-21 Thread Raul Miller
On Sun, Nov 21, 1999 at 02:41:13PM +0100, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > syscalls are a different issue. Software using syscalls can be declared > as such, and only installed on systems that provide such syscalls or an > emulation. Well, that's true. But syscall itself is just a libc function. Also,

Re: Stop Debian/FreeBSD

1999-11-21 Thread Raul Miller
On Sun, Nov 21, 1999 at 12:41:42AM +0100, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > Please note that Debians architecture and ftp set up make it difficult at > least to say: > > This package is for all linux systems. > > This package is for all linux systems, but needs to be recompiled on each. > > This package

Re: Stop Debian/FreeBSD

1999-11-20 Thread Raul Miller
On Sat, Nov 20, 1999 at 07:33:36AM -0800, Craig Brozefsky wrote: > I don't see how Debian/FreeBSD would do anything to jeopardize > existing Debian ports. It may suck up the time of some developers, but > since all developers are volunteers, that is their own perogative. > It will not force any Deb

Re: Debian FreeBSD

1999-11-20 Thread Raul Miller
On Fri, Nov 19, 1999 at 02:32:41PM -0500, Clint Adams wrote: > Or maybe SCO will free their kernel and we can run Debian > under iBCS. If anyone cares. -- Raul

Re: Debian FreeBSD

1999-11-19 Thread Raul Miller
> > Very little software should need to be recompiled in this case -- just > > use the bsd kernel with the linux compatability library. > > > > The post I saw looked like an attempt to marshal support for recompiling > > every debian package. > > > > If the purpose is indeed what you say the appr