Re: Request about Debian License

2024-02-06 Thread Jiyoung Wee
ignorant to infer correct ones from the name shown in your email. I'm > sorry about that. > > At 2024-02-06T19:03:41+0900, Jiyoung Wee wrote: > > I have a request about Debian License Policy. > > > > This is our case. > > 1. For the OS for our appliance product, w

Re: Request about Debian License

2024-02-06 Thread G. Branden Robinson
Hi there, I'd address you with an honorific and your surname, but I am too ignorant to infer correct ones from the name shown in your email. I'm sorry about that. At 2024-02-06T19:03:41+0900, Jiyoung Wee wrote: > I have a request about Debian License Policy. > > This is our

Re: Request about Debian License

2024-02-06 Thread Danial Behzadi
Hey, AFAIK you can use Debian freely as far as: 1. you advertise it as a Debian based OS. 2. you provide sources to all changes in Debian with the same license as Debian. در سه‌شنبه, فوریه 6 2024 at ۱۹:۰۳:۴۱ +09:00:00, Jiyoung Wee نوشته بود: Hello, Team, I have a request about Debian

Request about Debian License

2024-02-06 Thread Jiyoung Wee
Hello, Team, I have a request about Debian License Policy. This is our case. 1. For the OS for our appliance product, we use "A" OS(tentative name). 2. "A" OS is based on Debian OS. 3. We only modify "lsb_release" information so that the OS name,"A" OS, s

Re: Questions about Debian and raspberry

2016-05-18 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 03:46:42PM +0200, Mahmoud Elmowafey wrote: > Hi > I have some Questions that are hard to find on internet > what is Debians function, program language > Debian and Raspberry Pi, > How does it work and why did raspberry chose debian as their official > language for Raspberry

Questions about Debian and raspberry

2016-05-18 Thread Mahmoud Elmowafey
Hi I have some Questions that are hard to find on internet what is Debians function, program language Debian and Raspberry Pi, How does it work and why did raspberry chose debian as their official language for Raspberry pi

Re: What is the content of DEBIAN CD - please tell us more about DEBIAN CD?

2014-09-08 Thread Paul Wise
You have contacted the Debian project mailing list, which is not for user support, please contact one of the Debian user supportchannels for help. https://www.debian.org/support https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/ http://forums.debian.net/ http://ask.debian.net/ irc://irc.oftc.net/debian -- by

What is the content of DEBIAN CD - please tell us more about DEBIAN CD?

2014-09-08 Thread Henry Udoye
-- Henry Udoye. 4165 Whiteplains Road. P. O. Box 1290. Bronx. N. Y. 10466 Phone : 914-316-1854. Fax : 206-350-3803 hudoye1...@gmail.com Hello: What is the content of DEBIAN CD? What are the functions and features? What are the purposes and uses? Can it help any person learn how to code or s

Re: about debian server

2013-11-03 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 6:35 AM, Antoine Morales wrote: > Please could you send me the link to download debain server? You have contacted the debian-project list, which is for non-technical discussion of topics related to the Debian Project but not for user support, please contact one of the Debia

about debian server

2013-11-03 Thread Antoine Morales
Hello Please could you send me the link to download debain server? I have ASUS N56V computer for 64 bits, but I need the software to boot. Many thanks

Invitation to speak about Debian at Coliberator 2013 in Bucharest, Romania

2013-05-06 Thread Victor Nițu
Hello world! Cc-ing -project, since it's a pretty related matter. On 1-2 June 2013, Fundația Ceata [1] will be organizing its first international Free Software and Free Culture conference, called Coliberator (website coming soon). The event will take place in Bucharest [2], the capital of Romania

Re: About the statement about Debian and the CC licenses on Wikipedia.

2013-03-01 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, March 01, 2013 08:19:44 PM Russ Allbery wrote: > Charles Plessy writes: > > Here are the clauses about DRMs in versions 2.5 and 3.0 of the CC-BY > > licenses respectively. > > > > You may not distribute, publicly display, publicly perform, or > > publicly digitally perform the

Re: About the statement about Debian and the CC licenses on Wikipedia.

2013-03-01 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Fri, Mar 01, 2013 at 08:19:44PM -0800, Russ Allbery a écrit : > Charles Plessy writes: > > > You may not distribute, publicly display, publicly perform, or > > publicly digitally perform the Work with any technological measures > > that control access or use of the Work in a manner

Re: About the statement about Debian and the CC licenses on Wikipedia.

2013-03-01 Thread Russ Allbery
Charles Plessy writes: > Here are the clauses about DRMs in versions 2.5 and 3.0 of the CC-BY > licenses respectively. > You may not distribute, publicly display, publicly perform, or > publicly digitally perform the Work with any technological measures > that control access or use o

About the statement about Debian and the CC licenses on Wikipedia.

2013-03-01 Thread Charles Plessy
ese matters. Could you tell what was the key change that made CC-BY 3.0 acceptable for Debian ? Alternatively, could you confirm that the information in Wikipedia is wrong ? I will then correct it by deleting the paragraph about Debian. Have a nice week-end, -- Charles Plessy Tsurumi, Kanagawa

Re: Questions about Debian materials/topics for NorthEastLinuxFest

2012-03-08 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sat, 25 Feb 2012, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > - imho it might be useful for the event box to have some table > cover or a runner with a Debian logo. I currently have a largish banner with Debian and the logo which goes behind a booth, and two smaller banners which can be attached to the t

Re: Questions about Debian materials/topics for NorthEastLinuxFest

2012-03-06 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
> > installer, but we also have already working solutions (e.g. blends) > > for a field-specific representation of Debian. > In the ideal world that would be the case, but we don't live in an ideal > world. "we" might not -- but I do: http://neuro.debian.net http://www.debian.org/de

Re: Questions about Debian materials/topics for NorthEastLinuxFest

2012-03-06 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 1:12 AM, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > It is nice indeed but not quite the message I wanted to deliver... > > I had more of > > http://www.onerussian.com/tmp/distro-ecosystem-new2012.svg > > in mind ;)   Having hundreds of nice derivatives with a well setup > workflow Zack ill

Re: Questions about Debian materials/topics for NorthEastLinuxFest

2012-03-06 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
Hi Luca, It seems I have forgotten to thank you -- Thank you! ;) > If you drop debian-publicity@ (but you should not, Events stuff are > discussed there), please Cc: me, I am not subscribed to debian-project@. So I kept publicity and project in addresses for now > I added it to the Events page,

Re: Questions about Debian materials/topics for NorthEastLinuxFest

2012-02-26 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! If you drop debian-publicity@ (but you should not, Events stuff are discussed there), please Cc: me, I am not subscribed to debian-project@. On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 18:06:14 +0100, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > I am going to attend http://northeastlinuxfest.org (Saturday March 17, > 2012) whi

Questions about Debian materials/topics for NorthEastLinuxFest

2012-02-25 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
ught about the following "fields of endeavor" while talking about Debian project. Please let me know if I you think about others: - Supported hardware platforms - Debian makes FOSS accessible across unprecedented range of devices. Topics: ports, emdebian, niche projects -- debwrt, DebianO

Re: question about Debian Logo with Debian

2011-07-18 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
IANAL but in short * you can use "Debian Open Use Logo" (swirl) but not "Debian Official Use Logo License" (bottle) * you are not creating a software-related product, so use of "Debian" word in your banner would not infringe the Debian trademark On Mon, 18 Jul 2011, Ruslanas Gžibovskis wrot

Re: question about Debian Logo with Debian

2011-07-18 Thread Ruslanas Gžibovskis
any ideas? On 02/07/11 00:45, Ruslanas Gžibovskis wrote: Hello, how are you? About me: I am using Debian at work (workstation), home (laptop), home (mldonkey and torrentflux and samba server), and some hosting and multimedia desktop servers. writing my own Linux blog, where most manuals are bas

question about Debian Logo with Debian

2011-07-01 Thread Ruslanas Gžibovskis
Hello, how are you? About me: I am using Debian at work (workstation), home (laptop), home (mldonkey and torrentflux and samba server), and some hosting and multimedia desktop servers. writing my own Linux blog, where most manuals are based on Debian. Sometimes help my co-worker to maintain http:/

Re: Report from Med@Tel / spreading the word about Debian

2011-04-11 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
merge 20110411134230.gg7...@onerussian.com 1302527634.20...@techforce.com.br thanks > Should we identify ourselves as "foundation like" as Apache (for example)? +1 on relevance although not sure about 'foundation' > Debian Project is like a "multi-front" tech effort, stretching limits of > colle

Report from Med@Tel / spreading the word about Debian

2011-04-11 Thread Andre Felipe Machado
Hello, The Debian Project, as a whole and generally speaking, is still having difficulties to spread the word about the good work done here. The Publicity Team should be informed by the other Teams, for example. The Project is too big to the small team know all things happening. The publicity tea

Re: Funny / interesting facts about Debian

2011-02-04 Thread Filipus Klutiero
On 2011-02-01 10:54, Joey Hess wrote: Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: ask.debian.net - 318 questions submitted - 554 users (I can't find out to determine how many votes have been submitted, but someone can, it would be a nice addition.) Similar stats for forums.debian.net would be nice. In both ca

Re: Funny / interesting facts about Debian

2011-02-02 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Alexander Reichle-Schmehl dijo [Tue, Feb 01, 2011 at 01:09:06PM +0100]: > (...) > However, "facts" are more than pure numbers, and what the miss en large > are non numerical facts, more like anecdotes. > > One Example for such things would be, why there has never been an > official "Debian GNU/Lin

Re: Funny / interesting facts about Debian

2011-02-01 Thread Joey Hess
Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > ask.debian.net > > - 318 questions submitted > - 554 users > > (I can't find out to determine how many votes have been submitted, but > someone can, it would be a nice addition.) > > Similar stats for forums.debian.net would be nice. In both cases, it > can promote u

Re: Funny / interesting facts about Debian

2011-02-01 Thread Francesca Ciceri
On Tue, Feb 01, 2011 at 01:09:06PM +0100, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: > Hi! > > Am 30.01.2011 14:02, schrieb Alexander Reichle-Schmehl: > > > As some of you already know, we are planing a 'live commenting' of the > > release process via Debian's identi.ca account [1]. What works for TV > >

Re: Funny / interesting facts about Debian

2011-02-01 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
Hi! Am 30.01.2011 14:02, schrieb Alexander Reichle-Schmehl: > As some of you already know, we are planing a 'live commenting' of the > release process via Debian's identi.ca account [1]. What works for TV > shows surely also works for us ;) Many thanks for all the help so far. We got quite som

Re: Funny / interesting facts about Debian

2011-01-31 Thread Filipus Klutiero
Thanks Paul, interesting stats, although I wonder how many of the users and pages are legitimate rather than created by spammers. On 2011-01-31 20:05, Paul Wise wrote: Some Debian wiki stats: 7760 users (plus 266 disabled) 8670 pages (13425 since it began) http://wiki.debian.org/PageCount 37

Re: Funny / interesting facts about Debian

2011-01-31 Thread Paul Wise
Some Debian wiki stats: 7760 users (plus 266 disabled) 8670 pages (13425 since it began) http://wiki.debian.org/PageCount 37855.3 views per day 57.4 edits per day http://wiki.debian.org/EventStats/HitCounts almost 3/4 visitors use Mozilla-based browsers http://wiki.debian.org/EventStats/UserAge

Re: Funny / interesting facts about Debian

2011-01-30 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
On Sun, 30 Jan 2011, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: > So if you have nice ideas, what to report (ideally not only question, > but also already the anser ;) please contact us! may be it is worth a wiki page so we do not duplicate each other? Community (some might need a bit of work to collect st

Funny / interesting facts about Debian

2011-01-30 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
s and blue rays for 11 archs are builds). Therefore we would also like to fill this emptiness with funny or otherwise interesting facts about Debian (e.g. the 150'000 bugs closed in the two years since lenny got released). So if you have nice ideas, what to report (ideally not only question,

Re: Info request about Debian

2009-10-10 Thread Tapio Lehtonen
ttp://www.debian.org/distrib/archive http://archive.debian.org/ Please direct further questions to debian-user mailing list, available in several languages: http://lists.debian.org/users.html or see the Debian web pages which should contain all information about Debian. http://www.debian.org/ ht

Re: Info request about Debian

2009-10-10 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Kasuladevi wrote: > Leave alone support for obsolete releases of Debian, does this mean a > person using these obsolete releases doesn't have access to atleast > their respective obsolete repositories for any older packages he might > want to install now? The old

Re: Info request about Debian

2009-10-10 Thread Kasuladevi
Sir: Leave alone support for obsolete releases of Debian, does this mean a person using these obsolete releases doesn't have access to atleast their respective obsolete repositories for any older packages he might want to install now? If yes, I might conclude that users of older versions are comp

Re: Info request about Debian

2009-10-09 Thread Tapio Lehtonen
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 10:07:58AM +0530, Kasuladevi wrote: > Dear Sir/Madam: > > I am new to Debian. Could you please tell me how long are the packages > and updates support available for each release of Debian OS. > Are older releases of Debian "hamm", "slink", "potato", "woody", > "sarge", "et

Re: Info request about Debian

2009-10-09 Thread Ben Finney
Kasuladevi writes: > I am new to Debian. Could you please tell me how long are the packages > and updates support available for each release of Debian OS. > Are older releases of Debian "hamm", "slink", "potato", "woody", > "sarge", "etch" still supported, if yes, how long will they be > suppor

Re: Info request about Debian

2009-10-09 Thread Russ Allbery
Kasuladevi writes: > I am new to Debian. Could you please tell me how long are the packages > and updates support available for each release of Debian OS. > Are older releases of Debian "hamm", "slink", "potato", "woody", > "sarge", "etch" still supported, if yes, how long will they be > suppor

Info request about Debian

2009-10-09 Thread Kasuladevi
Dear Sir/Madam: I am new to Debian. Could you please tell me how long are the packages and updates support available for each release of Debian OS. Are older releases of Debian "hamm", "slink", "potato", "woody", "sarge", "etch" still supported, if yes, how long will they be supported. Would b

Re: Debian News and new "About Debian" footer

2009-10-09 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 9:55 PM, Markus wrote: > I hope I have picked the right mailing list. ... > In the new footer you started to speak about Open Source: "be one of the > largest and most influential open source projects." > > I would be happy if Debian would call itsef "one of the largest an

Re: Debian News and new "About Debian" footer

2009-10-09 Thread Markus
t;> >> Thank you. Though we will start to refer to our distribution as "Debian" >> instead of "Debian GNU/Linux" soon, when we'll ship more than one kernel in >> our stable release. "Debian GNU/Linux/FreeBSD" would just sound strange :-)

Re: Debian News and new "About Debian" footer

2009-10-09 Thread Roger Leigh
istribution as "Debian" > instead of "Debian GNU/Linux" soon, when we'll ship more than one kernel in > our stable release. "Debian GNU/Linux/FreeBSD" would just sound strange :-) What about "Debian GNU" (they are both GNU libc-based are th

Re: Debian News and new "About Debian" footer

2009-10-09 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Freitag, 9. Oktober 2009, Markus wrote: > First let me say that I'm not a Debian Developer but a Debian user for > about 10 years now. I love Debian both for his technical quality and for > being one of the few (popular) distributions which shows recpect to the GNU > project in his name and

Debian News and new "About Debian" footer

2009-10-09 Thread Markus
e and talks about free software. As I don't have this opportunity that often: Thank you all for your great work! But why do I wrote this mail? Reading the Debian news I recognised that you have changed the "About Debian" footer since: "[23 Sep 2009] First Debian Mini Confer

Re: info about debian DVD update

2009-06-04 Thread Steve McIntyre
[ Note CC: and Reply-To: to debian-cd, the best place for this type of question. ] On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 03:00:52PM +0200, F. Carpico wrote: > Hello, > > Some times ago I've downloaded the 3 DVDs of Debian 4.0r0. > > Now that Debian 5 is here, I've seen that there is a DVD called update > "

info about debian DVD update

2009-06-04 Thread F. Carpico
Hello, Some times ago I've downloaded the 3 DVDs of Debian 4.0r0. Now that Debian 5 is here, I've seen that there is a DVD called update "debian-update-5.0.1-i386-DVD-1.iso" here : ftp://ftp.proxad.net/mirrors/cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.1/i386/iso-dvd/ I'd like to know if this DVD can

Re: About Debian

2009-03-02 Thread Tapio Lehtonen
On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 03:17:13AM -0600, Kevin wrote: > Dear Debian Project, > > Do I need Debian in order to run > Elive? I like Elive the Operating > System? I like Debian as well. > Though I am new to understanding > the fundamentals of Linux. Please > explain to me the process needed > to r

About Debian

2009-03-02 Thread Kevin
Dear Debian Project, Do I need Debian in order to run Elive? I like Elive the Operating System? I like Debian as well. Though I am new to understanding the fundamentals of Linux. Please explain to me the process needed to run Debian. I am also confused by which Linux OS is better for me. I am

Re: snapshot.d.n (was: Complaint about #debian operator)

2006-12-20 Thread Andreas Schuldei
* Andrew Saunders ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061220 16:20]: > On 12/14/05, Andreas Schuldei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >actually, NetApp (the storage company) and Intel (the chip > >manufacture) are solving this problem for us. we get a 7 or > >10Tbyte storage from NetApp and two beefy servers to us

Re: snapshot.d.n (was: Complaint about #debian operator)

2006-12-20 Thread Andrew Saunders
On 12/14/05, Andreas Schuldei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: actually, NetApp (the storage company) and Intel (the chip manufacture) are solving this problem for us. we get a 7 or 10Tbyte storage from NetApp and two beefy servers to use as a front end for both CD/DVD generation and serving of CDs/DV

Re: On-going anthropologic research about Debian

2006-05-20 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Thursday 18 May 2006 21:47, Ralph Katz wrote: > For instance, the #1 language for google searches of "debian" is > Hungarian! Hmmm. I seriously have a problem with this - not because I don't like the hungarians, but because english isn't even on the top ten languages list, and the US isn

Re: On-going anthropologic research about Debian

2006-05-18 Thread Ralph Katz
On 05/17/2006 05:00 PM, Daniel Ruoso wrote: > Hi all, > > It's been two years since I started to look at Debian with social > scientist eyes, and now I started to produce the report of the research. You may enjoy the "research for dummies" version of debian demographics with the new google tool:

On-going anthropologic research about Debian

2006-05-17 Thread Daniel Ruoso
Hi all, It's been two years since I started to look at Debian with social scientist eyes, and now I started to produce the report of the research. As I live in Brazil, the text is currently being written in Portuguese, but I'm already translating it to english as the time passes (with the help of

Re: For those who care about debian-devel-announce

2006-01-18 Thread MJ Ray
David Nusinow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Attributing this incident to a single clash with the majority of the > project is absurd. I disagree. I think Roger Leigh was honest about what incident most motivated the heavy-booting of his complaint. I think some other DDs are also flaming because of who did

Re: For those who care about debian-devel-announce

2006-01-18 Thread David Nusinow
On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 10:17:07PM +, MJ Ray wrote: > It's hard to expand, but the basic details of the event are > already public in > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2006/01/msg00968.html - > at least one reasonably common view about death was vilified > on -private last year. If a DD i

Re: For those who care about debian-devel-announce

2006-01-18 Thread MJ Ray
Erinn Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [...] > I suspect the listmasters are the only ones who actually know why > it was done the way it was. [...] Aye, unless they explain, that's probably right. > > Religious intolerance reflects more badly on debian than the minority. > > Help stop it, please. > >

Re: For those who care about debian-devel-announce

2006-01-18 Thread Erinn Clark
* MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006:01:18 21:22 +]: > Erinn Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Were I a listmaster, that would've > > been one of my considerations, regardless of what he'd done to justify > > the ban. I think it's potentially important that the rest of us know > > some disciplinary

Re: For those who care about debian-devel-announce

2006-01-18 Thread MJ Ray
Erinn Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > It's not possible for those of us not on -private to figure out what's > going on, really, but is it possible that it wasn't made public in an > effort to protect Andrew's privacy? It's possible. If so, I would have expected a short notice to -private rather than

Re: For those who care about debian-devel-announce

2006-01-18 Thread Brendan
This thread is a huge waste of bandwidth. Can't you boys compare pickles somewhere else? This gets, (what's the expression?) a big ole fat PLONK. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: For those who care about debian-devel-announce

2006-01-18 Thread Erinn Clark
* Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006:01:18 20:23 +0100]: > Michael Poole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Joerg Jaspert writes: > >> On 10538 March 1977, Martin Schulze wrote: > >>> Since this mail also mentions Andrews sarcastic posting > >>> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-anno

Re: For those who care about debian-devel-announce

2006-01-18 Thread Michael Banck
On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 06:25:07PM +, Dave Holland wrote: > On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 06:44:32PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > Raphaël has also harmed the project by implicitly > > linking it to Ubuntu. > > Don't be ridiculous. Ubuntu explicitly acknowledge that they build on > Debian - see

Re: For those who care about debian-devel-announce

2006-01-18 Thread Michael Banck
On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 06:44:32PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Sorry to feed again the troll, but I would like to know what is the > rationale behind removing the permissions for Andrew and not for > Raphaël. This has nothing to do with the technical aspects of Debian development (too bad th

Re: Ubuntu/Debian cooperation [was: Complaint about #debian operator]

2006-01-03 Thread Ian Jackson
Matthew Palmer writes ("Re: Ubuntu/Debian cooperation [was: Complaint about #debian operator]"): > On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 10:50:54AM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > It irritates us all. But I'd rather have substandard patches submitted > > (just don&

Re: Complaint about #debian operator

2006-01-03 Thread Ian Jackson
Steve Langasek writes ("Re: Complaint about #debian operator"): > As absurd as Andrew's comparison may seem, the diffs distributed from > http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/patches/ are pretty underwhelming as far as > "contributing back to Debian" is concerned. [

Re: Ubuntu/Debian cooperation [was: Complaint about #debian operator]

2005-12-18 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hello, On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 12:55:45PM +0100, Reinhard Tartler wrote: > > They could just as well do their changes directly in the debian archive, and > > have the ubuntu guys only recompile, or maintain the ubuntu-specific patches > > which should *not* go into debian. That is provided the deb

Re: [Utnubu-discuss] Re: Ubuntu/Debian cooperation [was: Complaint about #debian operator]

2005-12-16 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Joachim Breitner wrote: > I don't think there is much gain - an attached patch is not much better > than a link, and might annoy people with limited bandwidth. It is *MUCH* better to attach a patch than to paste a link, unless as others said, you're talking about > 1MB *compre

Re: Re: Ubuntu/Debian cooperation [was: Complaint about #debian operator]

2005-12-16 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 08:29:20AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 10:00:22PM +0100, Joachim Breitner wrote: > > Am Donnerstag, den 15.12.2005, 15:39 +0100 schrieb Sven Luther: > > Sounds like a very good idea, and fully in the scope of Utnubu. Some > > questions: > > > > * Is

Re: Ubuntu/Debian cooperation [was: Complaint about #debian operator]

2005-12-16 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 03:26:09PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > Sven Luther wrote: > > I have no idea how ubuntu works internally, but my believe, since they > > (canonical) pay people all around the world, and they don't have structures > > locally to do the official hiring, they are forced to hire i

Re: [Utnubu-discuss] Re: Ubuntu/Debian cooperation [was: Complaint about #debian operator]

2005-12-16 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 10:19:58PM +0100, Joachim Breitner wrote: > Hi, > > Am Donnerstag, den 15.12.2005, 16:13 -0500 schrieb Joey Hess: > > Joachim Breitner wrote: > > > I don't think there is much gain - an attached patch is not much better > > > than a link, and might annoy people with limited

Re: Ubuntu/Debian cooperation [was: Complaint about #debian operator]

2005-12-15 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 09:23:36PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Thursday 15 December 2005 04:03 am, Marc Haber wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 12:18:16PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > > They could just as well do their changes directly in the debian archive, > > > and have the ubuntu guys onl

Re: [Utnubu-discuss] Re: Ubuntu/Debian cooperation [was: Complaint about #debian operator]

2005-12-15 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 10:00:22PM +0100, Joachim Breitner wrote: > Hi, > > (I just got the mails to utnubu-discuss, so bear with me) > > Am Donnerstag, den 15.12.2005, 15:39 +0100 schrieb Sven Luther: > > The process was to be manually though, the idea is to scan incoming mails to > > the BTS, w

Re: [Utnubu-discuss] Re: Ubuntu/Debian cooperation [was: Complaint about #debian operator]

2005-12-15 Thread Joey Schulze
Joachim Breitner wrote: > Am Donnerstag, den 15.12.2005, 15:39 +0100 schrieb Sven Luther: > > The process was to be manually though, the idea is to scan incoming mails to > > the BTS, which would notice an URL to an ubuntu patch, and auto-attach it > > (and > > complain loudly to the submitter if

Re: Ubuntu/Debian cooperation [was: Complaint about #debian operator]

2005-12-15 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thursday 15 December 2005 04:03 am, Marc Haber wrote: > On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 12:18:16PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > They could just as well do their changes directly in the debian archive, > > and have the ubuntu guys only recompile, or maintain the ubuntu-specific > > patches which should

Re: [Utnubu-discuss] Re: Ubuntu/Debian cooperation [was: Complaint about #debian operator]

2005-12-15 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Donnerstag, den 15.12.2005, 16:13 -0500 schrieb Joey Hess: > Joachim Breitner wrote: > > I don't think there is much gain - an attached patch is not much better > > than a link, and might annoy people with limited bandwidth. > > It's SOP in Debian to attach patches to bug reports. I might

Re: [Utnubu-discuss] Re: Ubuntu/Debian cooperation [was: Complaint about #debian operator]

2005-12-15 Thread Joey Hess
Joachim Breitner wrote: > I don't think there is much gain - an attached patch is not much better > than a link, and might annoy people with limited bandwidth. It's SOP in Debian to attach patches to bug reports. I might consider doing otherwise if the patch exceeded 1 megabyte. (And yes, I'm on

Re: [Utnubu-discuss] Re: Ubuntu/Debian cooperation [was: Complaint about #debian operator]

2005-12-15 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, (I just got the mails to utnubu-discuss, so bear with me) Am Donnerstag, den 15.12.2005, 15:39 +0100 schrieb Sven Luther: > The process was to be manually though, the idea is to scan incoming mails to > the BTS, which would notice an URL to an ubuntu patch, and auto-attach it (and > complain

Re: Ubuntu/Debian cooperation [was: Complaint about #debian operator]

2005-12-15 Thread Joey Hess
Reinhard Tartler wrote: > > > > Notice that it is official ubuntu directive to *NOT* do that, that is to not > > send patches directly to the BTS, > > Please give a reference to this directive. I am part of the MOTU team, > and have never heared about such a directive. There was a large thread on

Re: Ubuntu/Debian cooperation [was: Complaint about #debian operator]

2005-12-15 Thread Joey Hess
Sven Luther wrote: > I have no idea how ubuntu works internally, but my believe, since they > (canonical) pay people all around the world, and they don't have structures > locally to do the official hiring, they are forced to hire independent worker, > who pay their social charges and stuff themsel

Re: Ubuntu/Debian cooperation [was: Complaint about #debian operator]

2005-12-15 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 03:00:26PM +, Andrew Saunders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > On 12/15/05, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > ubuntu is setup internally to circumvent social charges > > I don't understand this statement. Could you please explain what you mean? My

Re: Ubuntu/Debian cooperation [was: Complaint about #debian operator]

2005-12-15 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 03:00:26PM +, Andrew Saunders wrote: > On 12/15/05, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > ubuntu is setup internally to circumvent social charges > > I don't understand this statement. Could you please explain what you mean? I have no idea how ubuntu works inte

Re: Ubuntu/Debian cooperation [was: Complaint about #debian operator]

2005-12-15 Thread Andrew Saunders
On 12/15/05, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ubuntu is setup internally to circumvent social charges I don't understand this statement. Could you please explain what you mean? -- Andrew Saunders

Re: Ubuntu/Debian cooperation [was: Complaint about #debian operator]

2005-12-15 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 03:00:29PM +0100, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: > On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 02:54:11PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > > If the ubuntu patch database is public, and the patches therein > > DFSG-free licensed, why don#t we establish an automatism which moves > > patches from the Ubun

Re: Ubuntu/Debian cooperation [was: Complaint about #debian operator]

2005-12-15 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 02:40:37PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 02:12:35PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > That said, it may be different for ubuntu employees and random > > maintainers. > > Ubuntu does not have any employees. Those guys that get money for ubuntu work. No n

Re: Ubuntu/Debian cooperation [was: Complaint about #debian operator]

2005-12-15 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 02:54:11PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > If the ubuntu patch database is public, and the patches therein > DFSG-free licensed, why don#t we establish an automatism which moves > patches from the Ubuntu patch database to the Debian BTS? The Utnubu[1] project was started at Debc

Re: Ubuntu/Debian cooperation [was: Complaint about #debian operator]

2005-12-15 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 02:40:37PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 02:12:35PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > That said, it may be different for ubuntu employees and random > > maintainers. > > Ubuntu does not have any employees. Canoncal has. Greetings Marc, suppressing the

Re: Ubuntu/Debian cooperation [was: Complaint about #debian operator]

2005-12-15 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 02:12:35PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > I was implying that ubuntu employees where supposed to not file patches as > attachement to debian BTS, and instead send links to the ubuntu patch > database, links which may or may not stay alive for the time needed until the > patch i

Re: snapshot.d.n (was: Complaint about #debian operator)

2005-12-15 Thread Mirosław Baran
[Andreas Schuldei pisze na temat "Re: snapshot.d.n (was: Complaint about #debian operator)"]: > actually, NetApp (the storage company) and Intel (the chip > manufacture) are solving this problem for us. we get a 7 or > 10Tbyte storage from NetApp and two beefy servers to use a

Re: Ubuntu/Debian cooperation [was: Complaint about #debian operator]

2005-12-15 Thread Michael Banck
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 02:12:35PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > That said, it may be different for ubuntu employees and random > maintainers. Ubuntu does not have any employees. Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTE

Re: Ubuntu/Debian cooperation [was: Complaint about #debian operator]

2005-12-15 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 12:55:45PM +0100, Reinhard Tartler wrote: > On 12/15/05, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > It is their choice to fork with (possibly) too small manpower to keep > > > up. > > > > They could just as well do their changes directly in the debian archive, and > > have

Re: Ubuntu/Debian cooperation [was: Complaint about #debian operator]

2005-12-15 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 12:46:41PM +0100, Reinhard Tartler wrote: > On 12/15/05, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Every "relevant" change put into the BTS would be nice, yes. Filing > > > > > > > > Notice that it is official ubuntu directive to *NOT* do that, that is > > > > to no

Re: Ubuntu/Debian cooperation [was: Complaint about #debian operator]

2005-12-15 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 10:50:54AM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Matthew Palmer wrote: > > > OTOH, I've seen a number of ubuntu patches which were blatantly wrong, > > > where the maintainer clearly didn't grok the package they were changing. > > > > *This* irrit

Re: Ubuntu/Debian cooperation [was: Complaint about #debian operator]

2005-12-15 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Matthew Palmer wrote: > > OTOH, I've seen a number of ubuntu patches which were blatantly wrong, > > where the maintainer clearly didn't grok the package they were changing. > > *This* irritates me mightily. The reason, as given by a MOTU when I asked It irritates us all. B

Re: Ubuntu/Debian cooperation [was: Complaint about #debian operator]

2005-12-15 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 11:57:37AM +0100, Reinhard Tartler wrote: > On 12/15/05, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 01:06:51PM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote: > > > On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 01:57:12PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: > > > > I don't disagree. I would much rath

Re: Ubuntu/Debian cooperation [was: Complaint about #debian operator]

2005-12-15 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 12:46:41PM +0100, Reinhard Tartler wrote: > It is true that some MOTUs don't consider submitting > to debian bts as priority because of bad experiences they had because > of unresponsive and unhelpful Debian Maintainers. How much extra work is it to submit a patch one has p

Re: Ubuntu/Debian cooperation [was: Complaint about #debian operator]

2005-12-15 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 12:18:16PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > They could just as well do their changes directly in the debian archive, and > have the ubuntu guys only recompile, or maintain the ubuntu-specific patches > which should *not* go into debian. A good idea for Ubuntu to ease this would

Re: Ubuntu/Debian cooperation [was: Complaint about #debian operator]

2005-12-15 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On 12/15/05, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It is their choice to fork with (possibly) too small manpower to keep > > up. > > They could just as well do their changes directly in the debian archive, and > have the ubuntu guys only recompile, or maintain the ubuntu-specific patches > whi

Re: Ubuntu/Debian cooperation [was: Complaint about #debian operator]

2005-12-15 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On 12/15/05, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Every "relevant" change put into the BTS would be nice, yes. Filing > > > > > > Notice that it is official ubuntu directive to *NOT* do that, that is to > > > not > > > send patches directly to the BTS, > > > > Please give a reference to

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