Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [DUS expenses]
Ok. I certainly wouldn't call items for sale a case of spending on
itself, though; and at least in the US, I suspect these expenses might
be accounted for in a somewhat different fashion than the breakdown
given above. (But perhaps
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 06:38:38PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
and it does not engage in any lucrative activities of
which the society itself is a benefactor, seeing that revenue from CD
sales is donated to Debian.
DUS spends on itself, which is necessary in its current setup.
From the last
MJ Ray wrote:
Daniel Ruoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] skribis:
So, are we going to stablish the criterias for organizations to have the
right of using the Debian name? Like a type of fair-use?
Not me in the forseeable. spi-trademark would be the next step,
but it was just my opinion on a question
Philip Hands [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...]
Ah, so you're drawing a link between DCC, a group who have placed the words
Debian and Core in their name without considering the obvious consequences,
and the group of Debian folks in the UK who have decided that it was
reasonable to refer to
[ I've been trying to let this stuff drop. *sigh* ]
On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 01:49:01PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
rant snipped
You've not been constructive either (LaLaLa indeed!) and I
can't fix your organisation despite you. There's no need to
wonder at my motives. I've written them several times:
On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 02:40:14PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
Mark, you keep on mentioning this. Precisely what personal details do
you think D-UK holds about you, either correct or incorrect?
I'm pretty sure that's it right there. And getting people's names
wrong when replying to
Andrew Suffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 02:40:14PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
Mark, you keep on mentioning this. Precisely what personal details do
you think D-UK holds about you, either correct or incorrect?
I'm pretty sure that's it right there. And
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Andrew Suffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 02:40:14PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
Mark, you keep on mentioning this. Precisely what personal details do
you think D-UK holds about you, either correct or incorrect?
* Steve McIntyre ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
[ I've been trying to let this stuff drop. *sigh* ]
I'm quite sure you'd appriciate it being dropped entirely and for you to
be able to go on your merry way doing whatever you'd like.
Unfortunately, life doesn't quite work that way. :)
d. You could
Another subthread that could/should go off-list but once and once only:
Brett Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Interesting, I've worked with MJ Ray, and his name is DEFINATELY Mark.
Is it wrong to address someone by there name these days?
I've just checked my credit cards and even a tax notice
Steve McIntyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...] Precisely what personal details do
you think D-UK holds about you, either correct or incorrect?
How is DUS recording its membership? I can't think of a way
for it to do so without either dumping data from db.d.o (are
businesses allowed to do that?)
Em Sex, 2005-09-02 às 18:38 +0100, MJ Ray escreveu:
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why should *charities* get special consideration, anyway? Being a
charity doesn't automatically make them aligned with Debian's goals.
Indeed, which is why debian should reach consensus before they
Daniel Ruoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] skribis:
Em Sex, 2005-09-02 =E0s 18:38 +0100, MJ Ray escreveu:
[...] I think charities should get some special consideration
because law enforces some level of openness and honour not
required of other organisations.
I must remember that you're restrictive
Daniel Ruoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] skribis:
Em Seg, 2005-09-05 =E0s 12:55 +0100, MJ Ray escreveu:
Daniel Ruoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] skribis:
In Brasil, for
instance, there is no such thing as charity organization.
Then no groups would get special consideration from that
clause of my
MJ Ray wrote:
Daniel Ruoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] skribis:
Em Seg, 2005-09-05 =E0s 12:55 +0100, MJ Ray escreveu:
Daniel Ruoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] skribis:
In Brasil, for
instance, there is no such thing as charity organization.
Then no groups would get special consideration from that
clause of my
Em Seg, 2005-09-05 às 21:31 +0100, MJ Ray escreveu:
Charity is not country-specific. At the very least, Japan (according
to JACO) and Canada (CharityVillage) also have charities with similar
conditions of openness to the UK.
Well... That's not true for Brasil, and may be the case for other
Daniel Ruoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] skribis:
So, are we going to stablish the criterias for organizations to have the
right of using the Debian name? Like a type of fair-use?
Not me in the forseeable. spi-trademark would be the next step,
but it was just my opinion on a question you asked.
[...]
Daniel Ruoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I see nothing on this that can be considered a Debian (as The Debian
Project) problem, it's an internal problem of the Uk Debian Fellows [...]
Yes, mostly, you're right and they're not enough to act on. One
possible debian problem is the use of db.d.o when
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 10:49:25AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
I don't know debian-br and I didn't find enough explanation.
Trading with debian in the name is an advantage against other
local businesses who can sell debian CDs, isn't it? What does
the project get in return for that advantage?
I
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I confess to being puzzled by this persistent use of the term business
here.
DUS is an enterprise generating income from commercial sale of goods.
Whatever else you want to call it, business seems accurate.
AFAICT, the Debian UK Society does not have
Steve McIntyre wrote:
Yawn. You complained and complained and complained in this vein on the
debian-uk mailing list. When several people went and did their own
research into how best to set things up and disagreed with you, you
finally stopped that. Now you've come over to d-project in an
Em Qui, 2005-09-01 às 13:53 +0100, MJ Ray escreveu:
I think there are reasons to dislike it, not enough to act on:
* DUS was developed at a meeting for another purpose and just
announced to those (is Cambridge the new Vancouver?).
* It has a very weak link to the debian project.
* Its
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