Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-29 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 01:36:50PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2001/debian-legal-200112/msg00250.html [...] > I have no disagreement with that proposal on a practical level, so I'm not > sure what there is that you want me to rebut. > > If you approach this

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-28 Thread John Goerzen
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 04:47:29PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2001/debian-legal-200112/msg00027.html > > > "The Social Contract does not say: Debian Will Remain 100% Free Software > > > and Some Other Things That Aren't Software But Which Are Also Free

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-28 Thread John Goerzen
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 04:50:51PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > I'm not going to respond to this message except to point you to this: > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2001/debian-legal-200112/msg00250.html > > PLEASE NOTE: I no longer stand by my assertions in points 2) and 3) of > th

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-26 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 01:26:44AM +0300, Richard Braakman wrote: > On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 04:47:29PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > (In fact, I suspect that all "silent majority" claims are unfalsifiable > > by definition.) > > Not if you can corner a piece of that majority, poll it, and ext

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-25 Thread Richard Braakman
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 04:47:29PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > It is my hope that those people can be LARTed into submission on -legal, > as there is no evidence to support their "silent majority" hypotheses. Tactically, I think it's better to actually convince these people than to LART them

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-25 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 02:33:57PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > Being aware that discussions had been held regarding the GFDL's > DFSG-freeness for a long time, one thought that occured to me was: is this > even the right approach? > > Towards that end, a couple of things occured to me: 1) documen

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-25 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 08:53:24AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > I always use "g" to respond to mailing list posts in mutt. That's not a good practice. It will send private replies to people who don't want them. Use "L" instead. If that doesn't work, you need to use the "subscribe" and "lists" c

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-24 Thread John Goerzen
On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 08:53:24AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > I was responding to your post at > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200308/msg03193.html, > which among other things appeared to assert that everything in Debian is > software, and that I am "willing to compromise

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-24 Thread John Goerzen
On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 02:06:04AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > Not only did you ignore my Mail-Followup-To header, to which I drew your > attention in the very first line of my reply, but you mailed me a > private copy of your message. I always use "g" to respond to mailing list posts in mut