Re: Misc development news (#8)

2008-06-21 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 09:02:50AM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: > On Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 01:48:29AM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > > On 11403 March 1977, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > So tagging a key as belonging to a particular host is insufficient - we > > > need > > > the full authorized_keys sem

Re: Misc development news (#8)

2008-06-10 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Wed, 11 Jun 2008, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > * Philip Hands > > | While this is initially for our (DSA's) benefit, in that it makes applying > | global changes easier, it's also for user's benefit. -- compare the > | effort required to ensure that there are no copies of a key (that was > | on

Re: Misc development news (#8)

2008-06-10 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Philip Hands | While this is initially for our (DSA's) benefit, in that it makes applying | global changes easier, it's also for user's benefit. -- compare the | effort required to ensure that there are no copies of a key (that was | on a stolen laptop, say), on every debian host you _might_ h

Re: Misc development news (#8)

2008-06-02 Thread Philip Hands
On Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 01:48:29AM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > On 11403 March 1977, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > So tagging a key as belonging to a particular host is insufficient - we need > > the full authorized_keys semantics for setting key options (from=, command=, > > no-port-forwarding, no

Re: Misc development news (#8)

2008-06-01 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 11403 March 1977, Steve Langasek wrote: > So tagging a key as belonging to a particular host is insufficient - we need > the full authorized_keys semantics for setting key options (from=, command=, > no-port-forwarding, no-X11-forwarding, at least). And? You have that already, just add that in

Re: Misc development news (#8)

2008-06-01 Thread Marc Haber
On Sun, Jun 01, 2008 at 09:47:30AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > Ideally, I would hope that at some future date the openssh packages gain > support for disabling DSS user keys via the config and the debian.org > machines could use that, bringing the behavior back closer into line with > the stock

Re: Misc development news (#8)

2008-06-01 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Jun 01, 2008 at 11:10:42AM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: > While this is initially for our (DSA's) benefit, in that it makes applying > global changes easier, it's also for user's benefit. Er, "we're taking away your options for your own good"? :) > -- compare the effort required to ensure t

Re: Misc development news (#8)

2008-06-01 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Jun 01, 2008 at 09:15:19AM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote: > On Sat, 31 May 2008, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > People submitting known bad keys to ldap and stuffing those in their > > > authorized_keys files also. What else did you think it meant? > > I have no idea, because I don't underst

Re: Misc development news (#8)

2008-06-01 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Sun, 01 Jun 2008, Philip Hands wrote: > If there's some reason that you want specific keys to only give access > to specific hosts, and if the reason justifies the effort, I suppose it > would be possible to come up with a way of tagging which hosts any > particular key should give access to in

Re: Misc development news (#8)

2008-06-01 Thread Philip Hands
On Sun, Jun 01, 2008 at 09:15:19AM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote: > On Sat, 31 May 2008, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > > People submitting known bad keys to ldap and stuffing those in their > > > authorized_keys files also. What else did you think it meant? > > > > I have no idea, because I don't u

Re: Misc development news (#8)

2008-06-01 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sun, 01 Jun 2008, Mohammed Adnène Trojette wrote: > On Sun, Jun 01, 2008, Peter Palfrader wrote: > > (hint: how would you place that file there in the first place?) > > Ask for a password change. Send your key with ssh-copy-id. Don't change > your password and lose it. And then try to login wit

Re: Misc development news (#8)

2008-06-01 Thread Mohammed Adnène Trojette
On Sun, Jun 01, 2008, Peter Palfrader wrote: > (hint: how would you place that file there in the first place?) Ask for a password change. Send your key with ssh-copy-id. Don't change your password and lose it. And then try to login with your SSH key. OK, one has to be a bit thick to do that. --

Re: Misc development news (#8)

2008-06-01 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sat, 31 May 2008, Steve Langasek wrote: > I.e., it's "for developers", which is not the same thing as "about > development". Funnily it got posted in a mail that is named "Misc _development_ news". :-) > It's a policy change which should be communicated to the developer body. [...] > Does this

Re: Misc development news (#8)

2008-06-01 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Sun, 01 Jun 2008, Mohammed Adnène Trojette wrote: > On Sun, Jun 01, 2008, Peter Palfrader wrote: > > know it. I suppose etc/motd will eventually be updated to point to it > > also. > > What's the use if you can't manage to login? Is this just to show that you have no idea what this is about,

Re: Misc development news (#8)

2008-06-01 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Sat, 31 May 2008, Steve Langasek wrote: > > People submitting known bad keys to ldap and stuffing those in their > > authorized_keys files also. What else did you think it meant? > > I have no idea, because I don't understand why the above would warrant a > policy change wrt authorized_keys.

Re: Misc development news (#8)

2008-05-31 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Jun 01, 2008 at 12:50:24AM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote: > > - d-d-a is the list that all developers are supposed to be subscribed to, > > which means that's the list where announcements of general interest > > *should* go. > It's not development related tho. Description of that list

Re: Misc development news (#8)

2008-05-31 Thread Mohammed Adnène Trojette
On Sun, Jun 01, 2008, Peter Palfrader wrote: > It's not development related tho. And most people really don't need to It is developers related. And http://lists.debian.org/devel.html reads: debian-devel-announce: Announcements for developers > know it. I suppose etc/motd will eventually be up

Re: Misc development news (#8)

2008-05-31 Thread Peter Palfrader
[EMAIL PROTECTED] dropped] On Sat, 31 May 2008, Steve Langasek wrote: > I think this is a great example of why announcements like this should be > sent to debian-devel-announce in the first place, instead of being relegated > to the debian-infrastructure-announce list that most developers aren't

Re: Misc development news (#8)

2008-05-31 Thread Steve Langasek
> Mail-Followup-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Heh, eew) On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 08:52:02PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > The news are collected on http://wiki.debian.org/DeveloperNews > Feel free to contribute. > ~/.ssh/authorized_keys will remain disabled by default > --