Re: Planet policy?

2007-08-14 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
The people who like my blog can add it to their feed readers directly. I believe I've followed the rules for PD, but there's no point I believe you've followed the rules as well. As you mentioned on your blog, planet is for active participants in Debian, not for posts about Debian only. The

Re: Planet policy?

2007-08-10 Thread Jon Dowland
Bastian Venthur wrote: Why so complicated? Isn't it easier to divide the content of planet into something like personal and technical Some people think pdo needs adjusting, some don't. The solution Lars proposed leaves pdo as it is (which satisfies the latter camp, which includes me). -- Jon

Re: Planet policy?

2007-08-09 Thread Alexander Schmehl
Hi! * Evan Prodromou [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070808 18:44]: I've heard from people who really like reading my blog posts on Planet Debian, and people who really hate them. [..] So, I've removed the feed. Old posts should roll off the end in a day or two, or if there's some sense of urgency, I

Re: Planet policy?

2007-08-09 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Alexander Schmehl [Thu, 09 Aug 2007 10:40:35 +0200]: * Evan Prodromou [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070808 18:44]: I've heard from people who really like reading my blog posts on Planet Debian, and people who really hate them. [..] So, I've removed the feed. Old posts should roll off the end in a

Re: Re: Planet policy?

2007-08-09 Thread Evan Prodromou
OK, so, based on this feedback, I've reënabled the feed, and I'm unlikely to remove it again without good reason. -Evan -- Evan Prodromou [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Planet policy?

2007-08-09 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sat, Aug 04, 2007 at 05:54:12PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: Did we ever agree a policy about what's acceptable/reasonable for blog feeds linked from planet.d.o? No. And personally, I believe that's a good thing. To me, Planet Debian is about people, not technology. The fact that it just

Re: Planet policy?

2007-08-09 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 08:26:52AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: This is Planet Debian so it should be mainly about Debian. I disagree. A blog is what a person thinks about; a planet is an aggregation of blogs of people who have one particular thing in common. It's clear from the above that

Re: Planet policy?

2007-08-09 Thread Jon Dowland
Lars Wirzenius liw at liw.iki.fi writes: It strikes me, though, that if there's interest, setting up an pure.debian.net with feeds strictly restricted to those that discuss Debian matters only, should be pretty easy. Anybody interested in subscribing to it? I think that is a great idea. I

Re: Planet policy?

2007-08-09 Thread Bastian Venthur
On 08.08.2007 07:33 schrieb Lars Wirzenius: It strikes me, though, that if there's interest, setting up an pure.debian.net with feeds strictly restricted to those that discuss Debian matters only, should be pretty easy. Anybody interested in subscribing to it? Why so complicated? Isn't it

Re: Planet policy?

2007-08-09 Thread David Moreno Garza
On Thu, 2007-08-09 at 14:43 +, Jon Dowland wrote: I think that is a great idea. I wouldn't subscribe to it, under the assumption that p.d.o would be effectively a superset of the content, but it would at least satisfy those who are not interested in non-technical postings. And who are

Re: Planet policy?

2007-08-09 Thread MJ Ray
Bastian Venthur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Why so complicated? Isn't it easier to divide the content of planet into something like personal and technical [...] personal / technical may be a different split to debian / other - some of Ian Murdock's posts are technical without being directly

Re: Planet policy?

2007-08-09 Thread Bastian Venthur
MJ Ray wrote: Bastian Venthur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Why so complicated? Isn't it easier to divide the content of planet into something like personal and technical [...] personal / technical may be a different split to debian / other - some of Ian Murdock's posts are technical

Re: Planet policy?

2007-08-09 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On to, 2007-08-09 at 10:34 -0500, David Moreno Garza wrote: On Thu, 2007-08-09 at 14:43 +, Jon Dowland wrote: I think that is a great idea. I wouldn't subscribe to it, under the assumption that p.d.o would be effectively a superset of the content, but it would at least satisfy

Re: Planet policy?

2007-08-09 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On to, 2007-08-09 at 14:43 +, Jon Dowland wrote: I think that is a great idea. I wouldn't subscribe to it, under the assumption that p.d.o would be effectively a superset of the content, but it would at least satisfy those who are not interested in non-technical postings. That's assuming

Re: Planet policy?

2007-08-09 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 07:28:41PM +, Lars Wirzenius wrote: On to, 2007-08-09 at 14:43 +, Jon Dowland wrote: I think that is a great idea. I wouldn't subscribe to it, under the assumption that p.d.o would be effectively a superset of the content, but it would at least satisfy

Re: Planet policy?

2007-08-08 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 05:33:22 +, Lars Wirzenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: It strikes me, though, that if there's interest, setting up an pure.debian.net with feeds strictly restricted to those that discuss Debian matters only, should be pretty easy. Anybody interested in subscribing to it?

Re: Planet policy?

2007-08-08 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 14:16:05 -0300, Otavio Salvador [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Steve McIntyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Did we ever agree a policy about what's acceptable/reasonable for blog feeds linked from planet.d.o? I'm very tempted to disable Ian Murdock's Solaris propaganda, for

Re: Planet policy?

2007-08-08 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 08 Aug 2007, Kevin Mark wrote: On Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 10:26:55PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: On Tue, 07 Aug 2007, Joey Hess wrote: Ian could take up pig farming and blog about nothing else, and I'd still consider his posts on topic for Planet Debian. Whether he likes it or not,

Re: Planet policy?

2007-08-08 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 01:20:30AM -0400, Kevin Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 10:26:55PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: On Tue, 07 Aug 2007, Joey Hess wrote: Ian could take up pig farming and blog about nothing else, and I'd still consider his posts on topic for

Re: Planet policy?

2007-08-08 Thread MJ Ray
Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure there's a planet wikipedia to suit your needs. This is Planet Debian so it should be mainly about Debian. Of course Debian contributors can speak about something else from time to time, but when it's 60% (or whatever high percentage we could

Re: Planet policy?

2007-08-08 Thread MJ Ray
Mike Hommey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: seriously, when there's something that is not interesting to me on planet debian, I just don't read it. Is it that difficult to not read ? Actually, it's harder than it could be. Can anyone see how to add alterslash.org-style Skip links to the top of each

Re: Planet policy?

2007-08-08 Thread MJ Ray
Mike Hommey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Waw, there are still people not using feed agregators these days ? Yep. (There are even still people using Windows 95.) Also, Planet Debian is a type of feed aggregator... if you can see how to do it easily, go for it instead of being all mysterious. I'm

Re: Planet policy?

2007-08-08 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 08:32:43AM +0100, MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike Hommey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: seriously, when there's something that is not interesting to me on planet debian, I just don't read it. Is it that difficult to not read ? Actually, it's harder than it could be.

Re: Planet policy?

2007-08-08 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin
On Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 01:07:41AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 14:16:05 -0300, Otavio Salvador [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Steve McIntyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Did we ever agree a policy about what's acceptable/reasonable for blog feeds linked from planet.d.o? I'm

Re: Planet policy?

2007-08-08 Thread Otavio Salvador
Otavio Salvador [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But yes, I do think that we should at least try to keep planet without much noise otherwise it'll get boring to read and lose its meaning. After reading this thread I changed my mind. I now agree that it's not the case. -- O T A V I OS A

Re: Planet policy?

2007-08-08 Thread Evan Prodromou
On Wed, 2007-08-08 at 08:26 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: BTW CCing Evan to let him know. Thanks, Raphael. I've heard from people who really like reading my blog posts on Planet Debian, and people who really hate them. The people who like my blog can add it to their feed readers directly. I

Re: Planet policy?

2007-08-08 Thread David Moreno Garza
On Wed, 2007-08-08 at 08:26 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: This is Planet Debian so it should be mainly about Debian. I'm sorry for disagreeing. This is Planet Debian, so it should be mainly about Debian Developers (or contributors, people making Debian) whether they like to write and blog

Re: Planet policy?

2007-08-07 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 11101 March 1977, Steve McIntyre wrote: Did we ever agree a policy about what's acceptable/reasonable for blog feeds linked from planet.d.o? I'm very tempted to disable Ian Murdock's Solaris propaganda, for example... Thoughts? Without looking at this issue - people can already

Re: Planet policy?

2007-08-07 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Joerg Jaspert 2007-08-07 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Im not sure why this isnt yet integrated into Debian, afaik Myon tried to do that already with Mako, but I dont know why it didnt happen. CC-ing both, hoping we get that into official planet soon. :) I never got around to talk to Mako about that -

Re: Planet policy?

2007-08-07 Thread Joey Hess
I'm not sure why I seem to keep falling into the role of defending Ian being on planet Debian, but then I don't really understand why people keep trying to remove him for the most minor infractions[1]. Otavio Salvador wrote: I agree on disabling his blog since it has nothing related to Debian

Re: Planet policy?

2007-08-07 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Tue, 07 Aug 2007, Joey Hess wrote: Ian could take up pig farming and blog about nothing else, and I'd still consider his posts on topic for Planet Debian. Whether he likes it or not, he's inextricably linked with Debian. Ack. I'd rather question the need to have Evan Prodromou's blog who is

Re: Planet policy?

2007-08-07 Thread Mark Brown
On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 09:20:55PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: On Monday 06 August 2007 1:28:20 pm Otavio Salvador wrote: But yes, I do think that we should at least try to keep planet without much noise otherwise it'll get boring to read and lose its meaning. Actually, I don't read Planet

Re: Planet policy?

2007-08-07 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 09:20:55PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: I read Planet Debian for the *non-Debian* posts. What somebody's apartment in Japan looks like, what the trip to Berlin was like, etc. Maybe what their Debian development area looks like... It's good to get to know our fellow

Re: Planet policy?

2007-08-07 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 10:26:55PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: On Tue, 07 Aug 2007, Joey Hess wrote: Ian could take up pig farming and blog about nothing else, and I'd still consider his posts on topic for Planet Debian. Whether he likes it or not, he's inextricably linked with Debian.

Re: Planet policy?

2007-08-07 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On ke, 2007-08-08 at 07:24 +0300, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 09:20:55PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: I read Planet Debian for the *non-Debian* posts. What somebody's apartment in Japan looks like, what the trip to Berlin was like, etc. Maybe what their Debian

Re: Planet policy?

2007-08-06 Thread MJ Ray
David Moreno Garza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exactly, I was only meaning that the only apparent requirement (or wannabe policy) is being a Debian development collaborator. and posting in English. However, I feel there have been some nasty unsubscriptions before. Why not ask Ian Murdock by

Re: Planet policy?

2007-08-06 Thread Otavio Salvador
Steve McIntyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Did we ever agree a policy about what's acceptable/reasonable for blog feeds linked from planet.d.o? I'm very tempted to disable Ian Murdock's Solaris propaganda, for example... Thoughts? I agree on disabling his blog since it has nothing related to

Re: Planet policy?

2007-08-06 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Steve McIntyre dijo [Sat, Aug 04, 2007 at 05:54:12PM +0100]: Did we ever agree a policy about what's acceptable/reasonable for blog feeds linked from planet.d.o? I'm very tempted to disable Ian Murdock's Solaris propaganda, for example... Thoughts? I see the planet as just the collection of

Re: Planet policy?

2007-08-06 Thread Otavio Salvador
Gunnar Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Steve McIntyre dijo [Sat, Aug 04, 2007 at 05:54:12PM +0100]: Did we ever agree a policy about what's acceptable/reasonable for blog feeds linked from planet.d.o? I'm very tempted to disable Ian Murdock's Solaris propaganda, for example... Thoughts? I

Re: Planet policy?

2007-08-06 Thread Loïc Minier
On Mon, Aug 06, 2007, Otavio Salvador wrote: Maybe we might contact him and ask him to set the feed for a proper tag or something so planet won't get all his posts. That would be a better solution. I did when this thread started; I didn't Cc: this list when I did because I found some

Re: Planet policy?

2007-08-06 Thread John Goerzen
On Monday 06 August 2007 1:28:20 pm Otavio Salvador wrote: Gunnar Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But then again: Ian Murdock is there because he is the Debian founder, right? I do not know if nowadays he is in any actual way _related to_ Debian. Yes, not all Planet members are DDs (nor

Planet policy?

2007-08-04 Thread Steve McIntyre
Did we ever agree a policy about what's acceptable/reasonable for blog feeds linked from planet.d.o? I'm very tempted to disable Ian Murdock's Solaris propaganda, for example... Thoughts? -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.[EMAIL PROTECTED] You lock the door And

Re: Planet policy?

2007-08-04 Thread David Moreno Garza
On Sat, 2007-08-04 at 17:54 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: Did we ever agree a policy about what's acceptable/reasonable for blog feeds linked from planet.d.o? I'm very tempted to disable Ian Murdock's Solaris propaganda, for example... I don't think there's no policy. Rumors say that only

Re: Planet policy?

2007-08-04 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Sat, Aug 04, 2007 at 05:54:12PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: Did we ever agree a policy about what's acceptable/reasonable for blog feeds linked from planet.d.o? I'm very tempted to disable Ian Murdock's Solaris propaganda, for example... Well, maybe in 2 or 3 years he'll be on-topic, no

Re: Planet policy?

2007-08-04 Thread Floris Bruynooghe
On Sat, Aug 04, 2007 at 04:22:44PM -0500, David Moreno Garza wrote: On Sat, 2007-08-04 at 17:54 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: Did we ever agree a policy about what's acceptable/reasonable for blog feeds linked from planet.d.o? I'm very tempted to disable Ian Murdock's Solaris propaganda, for

Re: Planet policy?

2007-08-04 Thread Marco d'Itri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did we ever agree a policy about what's acceptable/reasonable for blog feeds linked from planet.d.o? I'm very tempted to disable Ian Murdock's Solaris propaganda, for example... Thoughts? His blog is way more interesting than some other people's blogs which apparently

Re: Planet policy?

2007-08-04 Thread David Moreno Garza
On Sun, 2007-08-05 at 00:50 +0100, Floris Bruynooghe wrote: Personally I think it's often rather interesting if a Debian collaborator writes about non-Debian things. The collaborative other interests of all of them is a curious picture and often tells something about other (interesting) free