Re: Proposal: SPI as international money transfer service

2006-10-15 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 07:45:09PM -0400, mmlacak wrote: Neil, thanks for your answers. Pardon my ignorance, but did you give them as an official SPI member? I didn't give them as an official response from the board of SPI, but it can be considered as officially the personal views of a board

Re: Proposal: SPI as international money transfer service

2006-10-15 Thread mmlacak
Neil McGovern wrote: I'm not quite sure what you mean by 'general open source community'. 'General open source community' to me consists of all developers which have at least one open source project published. Most developers who need funding seem to be attached to a project. Would

Re: Proposal: SPI as international money transfer service

2006-10-14 Thread mmlacak
Neil wrote: On Sun, Oct 08, 2006 at 08:07:10PM -0400, mmlacak wrote: So, my question is: can we make SPI ( http://www.spi-inc.org/, http://www.debian.org/donations ) into monetary service which accepts from and is able to transfer money to any country in the world? In short no. This

Re: Proposal: SPI as international money transfer service

2006-10-13 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sun, Oct 08, 2006 at 08:07:10PM -0400, mmlacak wrote: So, my question is: can we make SPI ( http://www.spi-inc.org/, http://www.debian.org/donations ) into monetary service which accepts from and is able to transfer money to any country in the world? In short no. This isn't SPI's

Re: Proposal: SPI as international money transfer service

2006-10-11 Thread Martin Schulze
mmlacak wrote: It's also being discussed at the moment if/how money affects developers. Well, lets make possible for money to come in, in the first place. In my opinion, money destroys. I believe it's already happening in Debian. However, many people don't seem to care or understand.

Re: Proposal: SPI as international money transfer service

2006-10-11 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Oct 08, 2006 at 08:07:10PM -0400, mmlacak wrote: So, my question is: can we make SPI ( http://www.spi-inc.org/, http://www.debian.org/donations ) into monetary service which accepts from and is able to transfer money to any country in the world? Is able Given that they depend on

Re: Proposal: SPI as international money transfer service

2006-10-11 Thread MJ Ray
mmlacak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] What we do need, beside a good will, is a convenient, reliable, affordable international money transfer service. [...] They all aren't up to a general community benefit in long term. Mutual banking services exist in England, variously called things like

Re: Proposal: SPI as international money transfer service

2006-10-11 Thread Loïc Minier
On Wed, Oct 11, 2006, Martin Schulze wrote: In my opinion, money destroys. I believe it's already happening in Debian. However, many people don't seem to care or understand. ENOARGUMENTS. -- Loïc Minier [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: Proposal: SPI as international money transfer service

2006-10-11 Thread Jérôme Marant
Le mercredi 11 octobre 2006 09:20, Martin Schulze a écrit : mmlacak wrote: It's also being discussed at the moment if/how money affects developers. Well, lets make possible for money to come in, in the first place. In my opinion, money destroys. I believe it's already happening in

Re: Proposal: SPI as international money transfer service

2006-10-11 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 11 Oct 2006, Jérôme Marant wrote: Could you please do me and probably many others a favour and move this to private discussion. I do not like oversimplification and overgeneralisation like On Wed, 11 Oct 2006, Martin Schulze wrote In my opinion, money destroys. nor do I like thinks

Re: Proposal: SPI as international money transfer service

2006-10-11 Thread Jérôme Marant
Le mercredi 11 octobre 2006 14:59, Andreas Tille a écrit : as an argument. I do not want to say that paying medicine is bad, but the sentence above has not much more sense than the sentence above if you try to dive into the details. So if both makes no sense at all it is not even off topic

Re: Proposal: SPI as international money transfer service

2006-10-11 Thread mmlacak
MJ Ray wrote: mmlacak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] What we do need, beside a good will, is a convenient, reliable, affordable international money transfer service. [...] They all aren't up to a general community benefit in long term. Mutual banking services exist in

Re: Proposal: SPI as international money transfer service

2006-10-11 Thread Martin Schulze
Jérôme Marant wrote: It's also being discussed at the moment if/how money affects developers. Well, lets make possible for money to come in, in the first place. In my opinion, money destroys. I believe it's already happening in Debian. However, many people don't seem to care or

Re: Proposal: SPI as international money transfer service

2006-10-11 Thread Jérôme Marant
Le mercredi 11 octobre 2006 22:24, Martin Schulze a écrit : A. I said I would stop participating to the thread bu I could not resist. Seeing Bill Gates giving away billion dollars for paying medicines in Third World countries makes me believe that money does the reverse every often,

Re: Proposal: SPI as international money transfer service

2006-10-10 Thread mmlacak
Martin Schulze wrote: mmlacak wrote: So, my question is: can we make SPI ( http://www.spi-inc.org/, http://www.debian.org/donations ) into monetary service which accepts from and is able to transfer money to any country in the world? Is able to deliver money basically from door to

Re: Proposal: SPI as international money transfer service

2006-10-10 Thread Gunnar Wolf
mmlacak dijo [Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 06:27:12PM -0400]: FWIW: I don't think SPI should become an international bank. Nor do I believe that SPI has the resources to do so. That wasn't my original proposal either. I pretty much clumsy titled it international money transfer service, while, in

Re: Proposal: SPI as international money transfer service

2006-10-09 Thread Martin Schulze
mmlacak wrote: So, my question is: can we make SPI ( http://www.spi-inc.org/, http://www.debian.org/donations ) into monetary service which accepts from and is able to transfer money to any country in the world? Is able to deliver money basically from door to door ( post-office/bank to

Re: Proposal: SPI as international money transfer service

2006-10-09 Thread Torsten Werner
On 10/9/06, mmlacak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, my question is: can we make SPI ( http://www.spi-inc.org/, http://www.debian.org/donations ) into monetary service which accepts from and is able to transfer money to any country in the world? Is able to deliver money basically from door

Proposal: SPI as international money transfer service

2006-10-08 Thread mmlacak
Let me cite Mr. Reiser ( http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS8278035161.html ): The legal costs, and the low rewards from open-source programming, had also been upsetting Mr. Reiser. In a 2005 email conversation, he wrote, 'Free software is not a good way to make money. We as a society