Re: Proposal: The future of the Debian NM process

2006-05-21 Thread Maximiliano Curia
On Tuesday 16 May 2006 00:04, Christoph Berg wrote: > | Introduce an intermediate role "Debian Maintainer" (DM). > | Summary: is allowed to upload packages already in the archive by himself. > | Needs sponsoring for new packages, no vote rights. Can either proceed to > | become DD or stay a DM. I

Re: Proposal: The future of the Debian NM process

2006-05-19 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: No. Many applicants simply package stuff no one installs on their system. And even if some people do, depressingly few people report bugs they notice - in most cases, they simply remove the package and use something else. Well, if no one installs it, it doesn't ma

Re: Proposal: The future of the Debian NM process

2006-05-18 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Anthony DeRobertis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote: >> I agree with a lower limit, but I think it would be better of to >> specify it in terms of "certain number of uploads" as opposed to "some >> time limit": >> I might have done 1 upload and just wait a 3 months, or

Re: Proposal: The future of the Debian NM process

2006-05-17 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote: I agree with a lower limit, but I think it would be better of to specify it in terms of "certain number of uploads" as opposed to "some time limit": I might have done 1 upload and just wait a 3 months, or I could have done several uploads over that same period

Re: Proposal: The future of the Debian NM process

2006-05-17 Thread cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)
On Wednesday 17 May 2006 01:27, Christoph Berg wrote: > Re: cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) 2006-05-16 > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > what's the rationale for needing a 2nd package? > > > > e.g. I currently maintain 1 small simple sponsered package, I also have > > contributed for several years as a transl

Re: Proposal: The future of the Debian NM process

2006-05-16 Thread Hubert Chan
On Tue, 16 May 2006 18:35:36 -0500, Christoph Berg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > My idea was not to put any additional load on ftp-master and to have > automatic rejects for that reason. If they have to decide what's wrong > with a package, they could as well explain it themselves to the > uploader,

Re: Proposal: The future of the Debian NM process

2006-05-16 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Hubert Chan 2006-05-16 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > 6. can use his gpg key to upload this package [2] > >-> no account/@d.o address yet > >-> every upload which would go to NEW needs a sponsor [3,4] > > I think it may be good to allow the sponsor to decide when the DM is > allowed to make u

Re: Proposal: The future of the Debian NM process

2006-05-16 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Jeremiah Foster 2006-05-16 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Limiting voting rights seems a step in the wrong direction. Doesn't > debian want more enfranchisement rather that less? We don't limit anything here, the prospective DMs can't vote in the current system either. We can of course discuss on wheth

Re: Proposal: The future of the Debian NM process

2006-05-16 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) 2006-05-16 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > what's the rationale for needing a 2nd package? > > e.g. I currently maintain 1 small simple sponsered package, I also have > contributed for several years as a translator. > > If we're introducing a new stage with upload rights f

Re: Proposal: The future of the Debian NM process

2006-05-16 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Mon, 2006-05-15 at 22:04 -0500, Christoph Berg wrote: [ . . . ] > Here's my proposal: > > +- > | Introduce an intermediate role "Debian Maintainer" (DM). > | Summary: is allowed to upload packages already in the archive by himself. > | Needs sponsoring for new packages, no vote rights

Re: Proposal: The future of the Debian NM process

2006-05-16 Thread Hubert Chan
On Mon, 15 May 2006 22:04:01 -0500, Christoph Berg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: [...] > Stage 1: [...] > 6. can use his gpg key to upload this package [2] >-> no account/@d.o address yet >-> every upload which would go to NEW needs a sponsor [3,4] I think it may be good to allow the spons

Re: Proposal: The future of the Debian NM process

2006-05-16 Thread cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)
On Tuesday 16 May 2006 05:04, Christoph Berg wrote: > The process I propose looks like: > 2. contributes to Debian: >-> work on the package (bug fixing, new upstream releases) with > sponsored uploads >-> 2nd package with >> 1 upload (e.g. not a totally trivial package, > a rul

Proposal: The future of the Debian NM process

2006-05-15 Thread Christoph Berg
Hi, these are my thoughts on how the NM process could look like in the future. The proposal has been inspired by Anthony Town's blog posting at [1], by my own experience in NM and being an AM, and finally by discussions with Marc Brockschmidt. [1] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/blog/2006/04/12#20