On 17/11/14 11:08, Joe Neal wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I've been using Debian since the never-ending Sarge freeze. I've never
> really used anything else. I presently depend on servers running Debian
> to pay rent and put food on my table.
>
> The thing is, Debian seems to be self-destructing.
Philip Hands writes:
> Rhy Thornton writes:
> ...
>> More concerning than that is that systemd won't be producing human
>> readable log files.
> ...
>> (to be fair, I haven't really
>> looked into it yet. I'm busy with real work).
>
> I wonder why you feel qualified to comment. :-/
I don't t
On Mon, 2014-11-17 at 14:10 -0800, Rhy Thornton wrote:
> More concerning than that is that systemd won't be producing human
> readable log files. As a full time sysadmin, I'm reading log files all
> day, and I have to wonder what the reasoning behind this is (to be fair,
> I haven't really look
To the original question - I'm thinking the Jessie is going to be
Debian's equivalent of Microsoft Vista. I plan to stay on Wheezy as
long as LTS lets me, and wait and see how things shake out.
Miles Fidelman
--
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice, there
Rhy Thornton writes:
...
> More concerning than that is that systemd won't be producing human
> readable log files.
...
> (to be fair, I haven't really
> looked into it yet. I'm busy with real work).
I wonder why you feel qualified to comment. :-/
I've only played briefly with systemd, and ev
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:10:49PM -0800, Rhy Thornton wrote:
> More concerning than that is that systemd won't be producing human
> readable log files. As a full time sysadmin, I'm reading log files
There currently is a bug in Debian where your log messages aren't
working. I forgot details, but
Rhy Thornton writes:
> More concerning than that is that systemd won't be producing human
> readable log files.
Hi Rhy,
There is no truth to the rumor that systemd doesn't produce human-readable
log files.
In a recent discussion on debian-devel, we identified a bug in the current
syslog-ng pac
On Mon, 2014-11-17 at 14:10 -0800, Rhy Thornton wrote:
> More concerning than that is that systemd won't be producing human
> readable log files. As a full time sysadmin, I'm reading log files all
> day, and I have to wonder what the reasoning behind this is (to be fair,
> I haven't really look
I've got the same concerns. I'm also very concerned because apparently
the systemd push may happen on servers I already built if I forgot to
use Debian Stable, which I may have, because I've never had any issues
previous with riding on the edge, and I like to provide feedback
upstream where po
Thanks for your mail Joe,
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 04:08:10AM -0600, Joe Neal wrote:
> The thing is, Debian seems to be self-destructing. Can you blame me
> for wondering if I should upgrade my servers to Jessie when the time
> comes or migrate them to another distro entirely?
As a user, I think
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