Re: Interpreting the init system GR results

2014-11-20 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Matthias Urlichs > Hi, > > Tollef Fog Heen: > > Matthias Urlichs > > > Too true. This GR does not have winners. We all lost. > > > > No, we all won. We won because we said that «we have processes for > > this». > > We do have processes for this, but the interaction of reasonable people an

Re: Interpreting the init system GR results

2014-11-20 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Tollef Fog Heen: > Matthias Urlichs > > Too true. This GR does not have winners. We all lost. > > No, we all won. We won because we said that «we have processes for > this». We do have processes for this, but the interaction of reasonable people and working processes with not-so-reasonabl

Re: Interpreting the init system GR results

2014-11-20 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Matthias Urlichs > Russ Allbery: > > A lot of that analysis concludes that the pro-systemd "side" in Debian > > won some sort of conclusive victory. > > I have a different perspective. > > Too true. This GR does not have winners. We all lost. Not as a result of > this vote, bus because of the

Re: Interpreting the init system GR results

2014-11-20 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Russ" == Russ Allbery writes: Russ> I have a different perspective. Russ> I think we just had a GR in which the Debian developer Russ> community said that we, as a community, would like to work Russ> through all of the issues around init systems together, as a Russ> co

Re: Interpreting the init system GR results

2014-11-20 Thread Olivier Berger
Hi. Holger Levsen writes: > On Mittwoch, 19. November 2014, Russ Allbery wrote: >> I originally posted this in a thread on debian-private, but on further >> reflection it seems appropriate for a broader audience. > > my reply there: "lovely words, thanks a wow". > +1 FWIW Best regards, -- Ol

Re: Interpreting the init system GR results

2014-11-19 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Russ Allbery: > A lot of that analysis concludes that the pro-systemd "side" in Debian > won some sort of conclusive victory. > I have a different perspective. > Too true. This GR does not have winners. We all lost. Not as a result of this vote, bus because of the incessant arguing, trolling,

Re: Interpreting the init system GR results

2014-11-19 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mittwoch, 19. November 2014, Russ Allbery wrote: > I originally posted this in a thread on debian-private, but on further > reflection it seems appropriate for a broader audience. my reply there: "lovely words, thanks a wow". really, thanks for expressing this this way. My thoughts exactly, b