Re: linhdd concerns

2007-11-29 Thread Cyril Brulebois
On 29/11/2007, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote: > override files allow comments which means giving a justification is > already possible. So it seems this just needs to be documented as best > practice? Yes. -- Cyril Brulebois pgpwk92xgu5mY.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: linhdd concerns

2007-11-29 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 11:08:33AM +, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote: > On Thursday 29 November 2007, Kalle Kivimaa wrote: > > Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I know, but maybe (but that's sad if we need to do that) we should > > > have overrides validated by the QA people

Re: linhdd concerns

2007-11-29 Thread cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)
On Thursday 29 November 2007, Kalle Kivimaa wrote: > Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I know, but maybe (but that's sad if we need to do that) we should > > have overrides validated by the QA people … *sigh*. > > Should the override file have a justification field for each (error)

Re: linhdd concerns

2007-11-29 Thread Kalle Kivimaa
Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I know, but maybe (but that's sad if we need to do that) we should > have overrides validated by the QA people … *sigh*. Should the override file have a justification field for each (error) override? That would help generic DD's going through all ove

Re: linhdd concerns

2007-11-29 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 06:49:37AM +, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 02:19:21PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > > Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > or we could disallow the override of >= E: errors in lintian, and make > > > lintian reboot your computer, fill y

Re: linhdd concerns

2007-11-28 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 02:19:21PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > or we could disallow the override of >= E: errors in lintian, and make > > lintian reboot your computer, fill your gpg with /dev/random bits, and > > install windows over your Debian

Re: linhdd concerns

2007-11-28 Thread Russ Allbery
Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > or we could disallow the override of >= E: errors in lintian, and make > lintian reboot your computer, fill your gpg with /dev/random bits, and > install windows over your Debian if you override such errors. I'd love it if lintian were at a point wh

Re: linhdd concerns

2007-11-28 Thread Russ Allbery
Michael Banck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > One thing we could do is have a seperate report on > http://lintian.debian.org which lists all the lintian overrides (maybe > only those for errors, not for warnings), so they can be peer reviewed > by interested people. I've been wanting to add overri

Re: linhdd concerns (was: Re: Updated Debian Maintainers Keyring)

2007-11-28 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2007-11-28, Bas Wijnen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 02:49:38PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: >> On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 12:23:30PM +, Michael Banck wrote: >> > Another thing we could do is alert sponsors about checking for lintian >> > overrides when they review a pac

Re: linhdd concerns (was: Re: Updated Debian Maintainers Keyring)

2007-11-28 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Bas Wijnen dijo [Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 04:51:30PM +0100]: > > or we could disallow the override of >= E: errors in lintian, and make > > lintian reboot your computer, fill your gpg with /dev/random bits, and > > install windows over your Debian if you override such errors. > > Interesting idea.

Re: linhdd concerns (was: Re: Updated Debian Maintainers Keyring)

2007-11-28 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 02:54:39PM +, Michael Banck wrote: > On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 02:49:38PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > or we could disallow the override of >= E: errors in lintian, and make > > lintian reboot your computer, fill your gpg with /dev/random bits, and > > install windo

Re: linhdd concerns (was: Re: Updated Debian Maintainers Keyring)

2007-11-28 Thread Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan
Michael Banck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 06:55:10PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: >> aj, who'd just like to see some failure analysis / air crash investigation >> type conclusions out of this, rather than just "foo sucks and >> shouldn't upload" > > One thing we

Re: linhdd concerns (was: Re: Updated Debian Maintainers Keyring)

2007-11-28 Thread Brett Parker
On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 02:49:38PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 12:23:30PM +, Michael Banck wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 06:55:10PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > > aj, who'd just like to see some failure analysis / air crash investigation > > > type conclu

Re: linhdd concerns (was: Re: Updated Debian Maintainers Keyring)

2007-11-28 Thread Bas Wijnen
On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 02:49:38PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 12:23:30PM +, Michael Banck wrote: > > Another thing we could do is alert sponsors about checking for lintian > > overrides when they review a package. > > or we could disallow the override of >= E: er

Re: linhdd concerns (was: Re: Updated Debian Maintainers Keyring)

2007-11-28 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 01:23:30PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: >On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 06:55:10PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: >> aj, who'd just like to see some failure analysis / air crash investigation >> type conclusions out of this, rather than just "foo sucks and >> shouldn't upload"

Re: linhdd concerns (was: Re: Updated Debian Maintainers Keyring)

2007-11-28 Thread Michael Banck
On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 02:49:38PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > or we could disallow the override of >= E: errors in lintian, and make > lintian reboot your computer, fill your gpg with /dev/random bits, and > install windows over your Debian if you override such errors. Are you routinely ove

Re: linhdd concerns (was: Re: Updated Debian Maintainers Keyring)

2007-11-28 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 12:23:30PM +, Michael Banck wrote: > On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 06:55:10PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > aj, who'd just like to see some failure analysis / air crash investigation > > type conclusions out of this, rather than just "foo sucks and > > shouldn't uplo

Re: linhdd concerns (was: Re: Updated Debian Maintainers Keyring)

2007-11-28 Thread Michael Banck
On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 06:55:10PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > aj, who'd just like to see some failure analysis / air crash investigation > type conclusions out of this, rather than just "foo sucks and > shouldn't upload" One thing we could do is have a seperate report on http://lintian

Re: linhdd concerns

2007-11-27 Thread Daniel Baumann
[ late, but for the records. ] Kartik Mistry wrote: > linhdd introduce binary abs_fdisk which was modified copy of fdisk > from new version 0.4. It was arch:all before that too, and previous > maintainer set it to arch:all saying 'it will save achieve space'. hu?? the previous maintainer, me, did

Re: linhdd concerns

2007-11-27 Thread Bas Wijnen
On Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 11:38:06PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 09:51:35PM +0100, Leo costela Antunes wrote: > > What information does linhdd need from fdisk? > > Fdisk seems to run just fine as a normal user on Debian. The issues > > seems to be that /dev/{s,h}d* are dire

Re: linhdd concerns

2007-11-27 Thread Leo "costela" Antunes
Steve Langasek wrote: > No, that would be a security hole. Even making it setgid disk would be a > security hole, since the disk group has write access to all disk devices. I didn't mean a simple wrapper around the binary, I meant a wrapper around the binary with a specific set of arguments, lock

Re: linhdd concerns (was: Re: Updated Debian Maintainers Keyring)

2007-11-27 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 09:44:50PM +0530, Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan wrote: > As people have already explained, this is not the first mistake people > have commited. And at the same time, I agree that it was a grave > mistake on my part and I publicly apologize for this mistake. If you > care to r

Re: linhdd concerns

2007-11-26 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 09:51:35PM +0100, Leo costela Antunes wrote: > Anthony Towns wrote: > > Given the description of abs_fdisk on the linhdd site: > > ] 0.4 release now includes a customized version of fdisk (called > > ] abs_fdisk). Why? Well, daealing with SATA (scsi) in /proc was a bear --

Re: linhdd concerns

2007-11-26 Thread Leo "costela" Antunes
Anthony Towns wrote: > Given the description of abs_fdisk on the linhdd site: > > ] 0.4 release now includes a customized version of fdisk (called > ] abs_fdisk). Why? Well, daealing with SATA (scsi) in /proc was a bear -- > ] and the ease with which fdisk gave me the needed drive info made me wis

Re: linhdd concerns (was: Re: Updated Debian Maintainers Keyring)

2007-11-26 Thread Torsten Werner
On Nov 26, 2007 5:14 PM, Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you care to rectify this by removing my account, by all means do so. I do not like that idea and I have just sponsored an upload for Kartik because I think he is doing a great job for Debian. I agree that he was mi

Re: linhdd concerns

2007-11-26 Thread Kalle Kivimaa
Anthony Towns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > ] I could use fdisk. Just that on Slackware and Absolute, which I use, > ] you can only run fdisk as root. So -- I downloaded util-linux and > > makes it sound to me like you should be packaging abs_fdisk separately and > having linhdd Depend: on it;

Re: linhdd concerns (was: Re: Updated Debian Maintainers Keyring)

2007-11-26 Thread Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan
On Nov 26, 2007 8:57 PM, Anthony Towns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In this case it's inaction, and it'd be better if you'd acknowledge the > problem and do what you can to avoid it in future. From the above, it > seems like when sponsoring packages you're not always: > > - testing to see if

Re: linhdd concerns (was: Re: Updated Debian Maintainers Keyring)

2007-11-26 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 09:34:21PM +0530, Kartik Mistry wrote: > > Kartik what possible reason did you have for overriding the lintian > > error report, rather than changing your package to remove the error? > linhdd introduce binary abs_fdisk which was modified copy of fdisk > from new version 0.4

Re: linhdd concerns (was: Re: Updated Debian Maintainers Keyring)

2007-11-26 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 11:22:52PM +0530, Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan wrote: > [I did not recieve the original email addressed to me by aj, so I am > literally "reading between the lines" to digest the original message] It was sent to your @d.o address, and is in the list archives at: http://l

Re: linhdd concerns (was: Re: Updated Debian Maintainers Keyring)

2007-11-25 Thread Mohammed Adnène Trojette
On Sun, Nov 25, 2007, Anthony Towns wrote: > Mohammed and Jaldhar, as advocates (and AM) of Kartik, do you have > anything to add here? What I have to add is: 1) Kartik is very reactive in correcting his packages when an error is found 2) Kartik has not finished NM yet as I have to check (all) his

Re: linhdd concerns

2007-11-25 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Gunnar Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have sponsored several of Kartik's uploads as well, regarding > xosview (for which I am the previous maintainer). Some months ago, > yes, Kartik needed quite a bit of hand-holding. As of now, however, I > do agree his packaging (on what I have seen - this

Re: linhdd concerns (was: Re: Updated Debian Maintainers Keyring)

2007-11-24 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 09:18:46PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > So... Well, I do hope this public flaming regarding the fdisk messup > is enough to fix the mistake (not minor by any means, but still a > mistake) he did. I think this misses the point. Giving someone DM privileges is a declaration t

Re: linhdd concerns (was: Re: Updated Debian Maintainers Keyring)

2007-11-24 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Jaldhar H. Vyas dijo [Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 11:13:29AM -0500]: > >Mohammed and Jaldhar, as advocates (and AM) of Kartik, do you have > >anything to add here? > > > > Mainly I have worked with Kartik on Debian-IN packages and there I > have no complaints. Lately, I have been sponsoring some of his

Re: linhdd concerns (was: Re: Updated Debian Maintainers Keyring)

2007-11-24 Thread David Moreno Garza
On Sun, 2007-11-25 at 00:14 +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > Mohammed and Jaldhar, as advocates (and AM) of Kartik, do you have > anything to add here? Out of Kartik's NM page: Application Manager Comments P&P1: [done] 20070417 P&P2: [done] 20070529 T&S1: [done] 20070812 T&S2: [done] 20071007 p

Re: linhdd concerns (was: Re: Updated Debian Maintainers Keyring)

2007-11-24 Thread Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan
[I did not recieve the original email addressed to me by aj, so I am literally "reading between the lines" to digest the original message] "Kartik Mistry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Ramakrishnan, how did your sponsorship checking miss both this error >> and the RC bug (442093) the previous up

Re: linhdd concerns (was: Re: Updated Debian Maintainers Keyring)

2007-11-24 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Sun, 25 Nov 2007, Anthony Towns wrote: Mohammed and Jaldhar, as advocates (and AM) of Kartik, do you have anything to add here? Mainly I have worked with Kartik on Debian-IN packages and there I have no complaints. Lately, I have been sponsoring some of his other packages and on the oc

Re: linhdd concerns (was: Re: Updated Debian Maintainers Keyring)

2007-11-24 Thread Kartik Mistry
On Nov 24, 2007 7:44 PM, Anthony Towns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Ramakrishnan, Mohammed, Jaldhar, Kartik, Hi all, Please read me inline. > It's been pointed out that Kartik's latest upload of linhdd has included > an i386 binary in arch:all package, and explicitly overriden the lintian > w