Re: Update to reimbursement procedure (now: max 3 months after expense)

2014-10-07 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 07/10/14 at 09:18 +0200, Enrico Zini wrote: > On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 08:12:49AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > > Providing a rough estimate should not be a problem, given it is already > > required to get pre-approval. > > If it's already required to get pre-approval, why ask to send it aga

Re: Update to reimbursement procedure (now: max 3 months after expense)

2014-10-07 Thread Enrico Zini
On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 08:12:49AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > Providing a rough estimate should not be a problem, given it is already > required to get pre-approval. If it's already required to get pre-approval, why ask to send it again? Enrico -- GPG key: 4096R/E7AD5568 2009-05-08 Enrico

Re: Update to reimbursement procedure (now: max 3 months after expense)

2014-10-06 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 06/10/14 at 23:13 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > On Mon, Oct 06, 2014 at 11:26:25PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > >On 06/10/14 at 20:38 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > >> On Mon, Oct 06, 2014 at 12:38:31PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > >> >On 06/10/14 at 12:07 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > >>

Re: Update to reimbursement procedure (now: max 3 months after expense)

2014-10-06 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Mon, Oct 06, 2014 at 11:26:25PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: >On 06/10/14 at 20:38 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: >> On Mon, Oct 06, 2014 at 12:38:31PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: >> >On 06/10/14 at 12:07 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: >> >> >> >> Both 2008 and 2011 are more than a year ago, so I

Re: Update to reimbursement procedure (now: max 3 months after expense)

2014-10-06 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Oct 06, 2014 at 04:58:22PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > On Montag, 6. Oktober 2014, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > > > Both 2008 and 2011 are more than a year ago, so I don't see any > > > > justification for making this change and would like to see it reverted. > > /me too > > > Also, I d

Re: Update to reimbursement procedure (now: max 3 months after expense)

2014-10-06 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, October 06, 2014 23:26:25 Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > On 06/10/14 at 20:38 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 06, 2014 at 12:38:31PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > >On 06/10/14 at 12:07 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > > >> Both 2008 and 2011 are more than a year ago, so I don't s

Re: Update to reimbursement procedure (now: max 3 months after expense)

2014-10-06 Thread Philip Hands
Philipp Hug writes: > On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 10:04 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: >> Given the nature of Debian, I suspect that our travel reimbursements >> generally end up falling into one of the untaxed gift buckets of money, at >> least in the US, so the same reasons wouldn't apply. > > Usually you

Re: Update to reimbursement procedure (now: max 3 months after expense)

2014-10-06 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 06/10/14 at 21:09 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > Somewhat of a separate problem, but it seems we're currently punishing > our volunteers with delays of many months. AIUI, people are still > waiting for reimbursements for the release sprint nine months ago. According to a quick email search, o

Re: Update to reimbursement procedure (now: max 3 months after expense)

2014-10-06 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 06/10/14 at 20:38 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > On Mon, Oct 06, 2014 at 12:38:31PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > >On 06/10/14 at 12:07 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > >> > >> Both 2008 and 2011 are more than a year ago, so I don't see any > >> justification for making this change and would li

Re: Update to reimbursement procedure (now: max 3 months after expense)

2014-10-06 Thread Philipp Hug
On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 10:04 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: > Given the nature of Debian, I suspect that our travel reimbursements > generally end up falling into one of the untaxed gift buckets of money, at > least in the US, so the same reasons wouldn't apply. Usually you want to book expenses in the

Re: Update to reimbursement procedure (now: max 3 months after expense)

2014-10-06 Thread Russ Allbery
Lucas Nussbaum writes: > Also, I don't think that 3 months is unreasonable. My employer applies a > two-week soft deadline, and a one month hard deadline for travel > reimbursements. I don't know how much this carries over to other legal systems, but in the US these sorts of limits for reimburse

Re: Update to reimbursement procedure (now: max 3 months after expense)

2014-10-06 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Mon, Oct 06, 2014 at 12:38:31PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: >On 06/10/14 at 12:07 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: >> >> Both 2008 and 2011 are more than a year ago, so I don't see any >> justification for making this change and would like to see it reverted. > >There were other occurences of rei

Re: Update to reimbursement procedure (now: max 3 months after expense)

2014-10-06 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Lucas Nussbaum > On 06/10/14 at 13:33 +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Montag, 6. Oktober 2014, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > > > Both 2008 and 2011 are more than a year ago, so I don't see any > > > > justification for making this change and would like to see it reverted. > > > >

Re: Update to reimbursement procedure (now: max 3 months after expense)

2014-10-06 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, 2014-10-06 16:58 GMT+02:00 Lucas Nussbaum : > It takes 15 to 30 minutes to gather receipts, scan/snail-mail them, and > request reimbursement via email. If for good reasons, you are > temporarily so busy that it's not possible for you to find those 30 > minutes in 3 months, I can accept tha

Re: Update to reimbursement procedure (now: max 3 months after expense)

2014-10-06 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 06/10/14 at 13:33 +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi, > > On Montag, 6. Oktober 2014, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > > Both 2008 and 2011 are more than a year ago, so I don't see any > > > justification for making this change and would like to see it reverted. > > /me too > > > Also, I don't think

Re: Update to reimbursement procedure (now: max 3 months after expense)

2014-10-06 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Montag, 6. Oktober 2014, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > Both 2008 and 2011 are more than a year ago, so I don't see any > > justification for making this change and would like to see it reverted. /me too > Also, I don't think that 3 months is unreasonable. My employer applies a > two-week sof

Re: Update to reimbursement procedure (now: max 3 months after expense)

2014-10-06 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 06/10/14 at 12:07 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > ]] Lucas Nussbaum > > > As a general rule, no reimbursement requests will be processed if > > requested more than 1 year after the corresponding event (sprint, > > purchase, etc). > > > > I received a reimbursement request today for expe

Re: Update to reimbursement procedure (now: max 3 months after expense)

2014-10-06 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 06/10/14 at 09:51 +, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > Hi Lucas, > > i am a bit unhappy with that change, i can understand your move though. > See reason below. > > On Mon Oct 06, 2014 at 10:53:13 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > I also used that opportunity to update the wiki page so that it r

Re: Update to reimbursement procedure (now: max 3 months after expense)

2014-10-06 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Lucas Nussbaum > As a general rule, no reimbursement requests will be processed if > requested more than 1 year after the corresponding event (sprint, > purchase, etc). > > I received a reimbursement request today for expenses made in 2008 and > 2011. I don't think that we (esp. audito

Re: Update to reimbursement procedure (now: max 3 months after expense)

2014-10-06 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi Lucas, i am a bit unhappy with that change, i can understand your move though. See reason below. On Mon Oct 06, 2014 at 10:53:13 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > I also used that opportunity to update the wiki page so that it reads: > > As a general rule, '''no reimbursement requests will be

Update to reimbursement procedure (now: max 3 months after expense)

2014-10-06 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
(Cced -sprints@ and dsa@, as those groups are the most likely to be affected by this change) Hi, https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DPL/Reimbursement stated: As a general rule, no reimbursement requests will be processed if requested more than 1 year after the corresponding event (sprint, pur