Le Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 06:49:59AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland a écrit :
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 10:36:34AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> > Other early steps should include establishing a sub-project/group to
> > coordinate discussion and actions around the issue.
>
> I still think this. Perhaps
On 2022-09-21 06:49, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> I still think this. Perhaps starting with a dedicated mailing list;
> debian-sustainability or debian-climate or debian-?
>
> Does anyone interested in this topic feel strongly for or against the
> idea of creating a list to discuss taking it further?
On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 10:36:34AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
Other early steps should include establishing a sub-project/group to
coordinate discussion and actions around the issue.
I still think this. Perhaps starting with a dedicated mailing list;
debian-sustainability or debian-climate
Le vendredi, 13 mai 2022, 17.38:13 h CEST Thomas Goirand a écrit :
> Most of the time, "green energy" is just "green washing". If you buy
> "green energy" in France or Swiss (these are the only places I know for
> sure what's going on), you get a higher electricity bill, and a slot in
> the green
On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 05:38:13PM +0200, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 4/8/22 20:35, Julian Andres Klode wrote:
> > Sponsors: When receiving sponsored resources like electricity, we
> > should inquire about the carbon footprint of those resources, and
> > what the sponsor's approach to environmental
On 4/8/22 20:35, Julian Andres Klode wrote:
Sponsors: When receiving sponsored resources like electricity, we
should inquire about the carbon footprint of those resources, and
what the sponsor's approach to environmental affairs is.
Most of the time, "green energy" is just "green washing". If
On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 11:38:20AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Fri, 2022-04-08 at 20:35 +0200, Julian Andres Klode wrote:
>
> > Budget: We need to determine our current CO2 emissions as a project,
> > and then define a roadmap to carbon neutrality by an acceptable date,
>
> I would be wary of
On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 09:19:33AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> Am Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 10:20:16AM -0700 schrieb Russ Allbery:
> > This also has the advantage that, whether or not the specific framing of
> > this thread is inspiring to a given Debian contributor, everyone wants
> > longer laptop
Am Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 10:20:16AM -0700 schrieb Russ Allbery:
> This also has the advantage that, whether or not the specific framing of
> this thread is inspiring to a given Debian contributor, everyone wants
> longer laptop battery life and lower power bills for their data centers.
While I
Le Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 11:38:20AM +0800, Paul Wise a écrit :
>
> I would be wary of the legitimacy and effectiveness of carbon offset
> products. In Australia the carbon credit/offset scheme was recently
> revealed to be fraudulent in many cases and I would not be surprised if
> it were found to
On Fri, 2022-04-08 at 20:35 +0200, Julian Andres Klode wrote:
> Budget: We need to determine our current CO2 emissions as a project,
> and then define a roadmap to carbon neutrality by an acceptable date,
I would be wary of the legitimacy and effectiveness of carbon offset
products. In Australia
On 2022-04-13 11:01, Sandro Tosi wrote:
> please do not transform Debian in an activist project (i wont comment
> on the carbon neutrality proposal). Debian has one goal: provide a
> universal operating system. this is where it starts and this is where
> it ends, and that's all the "else" that we
On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 11:22:24AM -0400, micah anderson wrote:
On 2022-04-08 20:35:27, Julian Andres Klode wrote:
it just occurred to me that despite the climate crisis about to
destroy us all we don't really have anything in place to monitor
and reduce our carbon emissions.
Agreed.
I
Hi. I do share your worry and your overall sentiment, but:
Julian Andres Klode writes:
> For example, people could be encouraged to batch bug fixes into larger
> uploads rather than uploading them immediately, use compression
> algorithms that emit less CO2.
I suspect that if every DD who
Davide Prina writes:
> So, I think that if Debian must think about climate change, probably it
> must be focused on energy efficiency to gain more results.
I agree that energy efficiency is probably the place where we could most
directly contribute as a project while focusing on the things that
On 13.04.22 17:29, Steffen Möller wrote:
On 13.04.22 17:01, Sandro Tosi wrote:
While I see no problem with the services of Debian to turn carbon
neutral, Debian should think of ways not to end here. What else
could we do?
please do not transform Debian in an activist project (i wont comment
On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 11:01:04AM -0400, Sandro Tosi wrote:
> > While I see no problem with the services of Debian to turn carbon
> > neutral, Debian should think of ways not to end here. What else could we do?
> please do not transform Debian in an activist project (i wont comment
> on the
On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 11:01:04AM -0400, Sandro Tosi wrote:
> > While I see no problem with the services of Debian to turn carbon
> > neutral, Debian should think of ways not to end here. What else could we do?
>
> please do not transform Debian in an activist project (i wont comment
> on the
On 13.04.22 17:01, Sandro Tosi wrote:
While I see no problem with the services of Debian to turn carbon
neutral, Debian should think of ways not to end here. What else could we do?
please do not transform Debian in an activist project (i wont comment
on the carbon neutrality proposal). Debian
> While I see no problem with the services of Debian to turn carbon
> neutral, Debian should think of ways not to end here. What else could we do?
please do not transform Debian in an activist project (i wont comment
on the carbon neutrality proposal). Debian has one goal: provide a
universal
The idea is good.
There is Debian as an organisation that could immediately shift activity
towards renewable resources. There are carbon neutral compute centers.
And there is something close to carbon neutral travel if investing extra
money in these tree planing institutions.
An interesting
On Fri, Apr 08, 2022 at 08:35:27PM +0200, Julian Andres Klode wrote:
> Hi
>
> it just occurred to me that despite the climate crisis about to
> destroy us all we don't really have anything in place to monitor
> and reduce our carbon emissions.
>
> I believe we need to commit ourselves to
On 2022-04-08 20:35:27, Julian Andres Klode wrote:
> it just occurred to me that despite the climate crisis about to
> destroy us all we don't really have anything in place to monitor
> and reduce our carbon emissions.
Agreed.
> I believe we need to commit ourselves to reducing this, but I fear
On 08/04/22 20:35, Julian Andres Klode wrote:
Hi
it just occurred to me that despite the climate crisis about to
destroy us all we don't really have anything in place to monitor
and reduce our carbon emissions.
I believe we need to commit ourselves to reducing this
in Italian user list we
On Fri, Apr 08, 2022 at 02:52:18PM -0400, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
> On 2022-04-08 14 h 35, Julian Andres Klode wrote:> I think individual
> travel to DebConf and similar events is somewhat> out of our control, as
> is the personal behavior of individual> submitters.
> I'm not an expert on
On 2022-04-08 14 h 35, Julian Andres Klode wrote:> I think individual
travel to DebConf and similar events is somewhat> out of our control, as
is the personal behavior of individual> submitters.
I'm not an expert on estimating CO2 output, but I'm pretty sure DebConf
is our largest contribution to
Hi
it just occurred to me that despite the climate crisis about to
destroy us all we don't really have anything in place to monitor
and reduce our carbon emissions.
I believe we need to commit ourselves to reducing this, but I fear
the only way this could happen is via a general resolution
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