On Fri, 2019-03-29 at 08:42 +0100, Stacey Lee wrote:
> Hello everybody
> I'm an outsider here but I couldn't ignore what is going
> on.
[...]
Shut up Daniel.
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Sam Hartman writes ("Re: metaphors and feminism"):
> I always assumed debian member was a term that included developer and
> maintainer.
> I'm all for Debian member replacing developer, but if so, I'd like a
> term that encompasses maintainer and developer.
There are
On 31.03.19 11:22, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Mike Hommey:
>
>> That's the primary structural distinction as an effect, but OTOH, the NM
>> process is a rather extensive vetting process.
> Not all Debian Developers went through the NM process. Account
> creation was handled differently in the
* Mike Hommey:
> That's the primary structural distinction as an effect, but OTOH, the NM
> process is a rather extensive vetting process.
Not all Debian Developers went through the NM process. Account
creation was handled differently in the beginning. (I wasn't around
and don't know the
On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 08:31:48PM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote:
> I always assumed debian member was a term that included developer and
> maintainer.
In the Constitution, "Debian [Project] Member" is used as a synonym of
"Debian Developer". Hence it doesn't include Debian Maintainers. We
discussed
On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 10:58 AM Paul Wise wrote:
> Personally I think the phrase "Debian Developer" and the abbreviation
> DD is a relic of an earlier era when the set of tasks available to
> Debian contributors were more technical and less varied. I try to use
> "Debian member" in mails since
On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 04:54:04PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Mike Hommey writes:
> > On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 10:22:35PM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote:
>
> >> So, how about:
>
> >> DM: Debian Members. Full members of the project that can represent
> >> themselves as such, vote in elections,
I always assumed debian member was a term that included developer and
maintainer.
I'm all for Debian member replacing developer, but if so, I'd like a
term that encompasses maintainer and developer.
Mike Hommey writes:
> On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 10:22:35PM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote:
>> So, how about:
>> DM: Debian Members. Full members of the project that can represent
>> themselves as such, vote in elections, and have a @debian.org email
>> address. (Pretty much what a DD and
On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 10:22:35PM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote:
> Hi Ian
>
> On 2019/03/30 20:46, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > Paul Wise writes ("Re: metaphors and feminism"):
> >> Personally I think the phrase "Debian Developer" and the abbreviation
>
Hi Ian
On 2019/03/30 20:46, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Paul Wise writes ("Re: metaphors and feminism"):
>> Personally I think the phrase "Debian Developer" and the abbreviation
>> DD is a relic of an earlier era when the set of tasks available to
>> Debian
> I see other people doing this too. I like it.
>
> The problem of course is that the official term is not "member" so
> this is unclear and arguably wrong in some sense. It should be. I
> would second a GR to change it.
While I would agree with the phrase "DDs are full Debian members",
I
Paul Wise writes ("Re: metaphors and feminism"):
> Personally I think the phrase "Debian Developer" and the abbreviation
> DD is a relic of an earlier era when the set of tasks available to
> Debian contributors were more technical and less varied.
As the pe
On March 30, 2019 3:58:59 AM GMT+01:00, Paul Wise wrote:
>On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 6:19 PM Laura Arjona Reina wrote:
>
>> We call Debian Developer to the Debian contributors who have Debian
>finished the
>> New Member process: the process of becoming an official Debian
>Developer (DD) [1].
>
On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 6:19 PM Laura Arjona Reina wrote:
> We call Debian Developer to the Debian contributors who have Debian finished
> the
> New Member process: the process of becoming an official Debian Developer (DD)
> [1].
Personally I think the phrase "Debian Developer" and the
On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 08:42:30AM +0100, Stacey Lee wrote:
[SNIP]
>If you want to be so picky, there is no way Molly can call herself
>a developer. Where is her code?
What is the basis for the assumption that a "developer" must show code
for his or her work?
It is interesting to me
Hello Stacey and debian-project
El 29/3/19 a las 8:42, Stacey Lee escribió:
Hello everybody
[...]
You are all men
no.
and maybe you don't
understand empathy so this doesn't make sense to you.
[...]
When most women in tech quietly work so hard to get respect for our coding,
with all
Hello everybody
I'm an outsider here but I couldn't ignore what is going
on.
People are making a huge fuss about the choice of political metaphors
and some people seem to be against them and other people said they
are only metaphors.
I found them really helpful for understanding how some people
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