Hi,
we keep getting reports of httpredir.debian.org not working correctly,
such as intermittently just sending errors or redirecting to mirrors
that are out of date.
Only a few of those make it to the BTS, some make it to
mirr...@debian.org, and there are several on various IRC channels. I
suspe
Hi,
On Tue, 12 Apr 2016, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> So, it appears as if currently nobody has time or the energy to take
> care of httpredir.debian.org properly.
>
> I suggest we shut down the service for now. If, at some future point,
> somebody wants to maintain again we can always start it up a
On Tue, 12 Apr 2016, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Apr 2016, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> > So, it appears as if currently nobody has time or the energy to take
> > care of httpredir.debian.org properly.
> >
> > I suggest we shut down the service for now. If, at some future point,
> > somebody
On 12/04/16 at 07:04 +, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> Hi,
>
> we keep getting reports of httpredir.debian.org not working correctly,
> such as intermittently just sending errors or redirecting to mirrors
> that are out of date.
This doesn't solve the issue of finding someone to maintain it, but
wo
Hallo! Du (Peter Palfrader) hast geschrieben:
>> Will you make httpredir point to a normal mirror so as not to break
>> systems relying on it? (Or even to the geolocalized DNS entries if we
>> still have that)
>>
>> If yes, then it's certainly a sensible thing to do.
>
>I agree that breaking exis
Hey all,
On 04/12/2016 09:53 AM, Peter Palfrader wrote:
>> > I'd like also to note that once we have proper by-hash package indices in
>> > Debian too, it's entirely reasonable to rely on MirrorBrain as HTTP
>> > redirector. I use it for Kali for more than 3 years already.
>> >
>> > http://mirror
Hi,
On 12 April 2016 at 09:04, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> Hi,
>
> we keep getting reports of httpredir.debian.org not working correctly,
> such as intermittently just sending errors or redirecting to mirrors
> that are out of date.
[...]
> So, it appears as if currently nobody has time or the energ
On Tue, 2016-04-12 at 13:52 +0200, Raphael Geissert wrote:
[...]
> - the main code contributors (Simon and yours truly) have been
> EBUSY/ENOTIME for a while - Simon, please correct me if I'm wrong
[...]
I assume this means you don't have spare time. Are either of you (or
anyone else with knowledg
On Tue, 12 Apr 2016, Raphael Geissert wrote:
> - the main code contributors (Simon and yours truly) have been
> EBUSY/ENOTIME for a while - Simon, please correct me if I'm wrong
[*]
> What I propose is:
> 1. to fix the recent regressions and perform some maintenance on the
> service in an attemp
On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 3:33 PM, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> I'd like also to note that once we have proper by-hash package indices in
> Debian too, it's entirely reasonable to rely on MirrorBrain as HTTP
> redirector. I use it for Kali for more than 3 years already.
>
> http://mirrorbrain.org
BTW,
On 04/12/2016 07:52 AM, Raphael
Geissert wrote:
Hi,
What I propose is:
1. to fix the recent regressions and perform some maintenance on the
service in an attempt[1] to reduce the user-visible errors. Before the
end of April.
2. define the next steps towards
Sorry for the html earlier, my apologies.
Hi,
On Tue, 12 Apr 2016, Christian Rohmann wrote:
> It does wonderful things (http://mirrorbrain.org/features/):
Nice to see some much support but I would like to point out that not
everything is perfect either...
> * Load-Balance by GeoIP / AS matching (traffic stays very local)
That's clearl
Hi,
On 12 April 2016 at 15:25, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Apr 2016, Raphael Geissert wrote:
>
>> - the main code contributors (Simon and yours truly) have been
>> EBUSY/ENOTIME for a while - Simon, please correct me if I'm wrong
> [*]
>
>> What I propose is:
>> 1. to fix the recent regr
On 04/13/2016 10:23 AM, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
>> ** It can serve things down to the file level to a mirror that
>> > still/already has a certain file
> The "still" is wrong. It's actually an annoying bug that needs to be
> fixed for our usage... Kali wants to sponsor this bugfix but the
> upstr
Christian Rohmann schrieb am Donnerstag, dem 14. April 2016:
> It might sound like a very non technical argument: But what apart from
> mirrorbrain which is that powerful, free and field-proven is there as
> alternative? I would rather work on getting pull requests ready
> resolving the various li
On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 09:02:18AM +, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> You could argue (and I have), that that file-based redirects are not
> ideal if your update is downloading lots of little files. The latency
> hit of many redirects is non-trivial.
My last test showed problems with httpredir retur
On 04/13/2016 10:23 AM, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
>> * Intensive checks (even via rsync) regarding mirror consistency
> That's good too but the downside is that the mirrors must
> offer rsync service, either public or at least for the mirror redirector.
> It's not possible to use a mirror that cann
On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 11:49:12AM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 09:02:18AM +, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> > You could argue (and I have), that that file-based redirects are not
> > ideal if your update is downloading lots of little files. The latency
> > hit of many redir
On Thu, 14 Apr 2016, Christian Rohmann wrote:
> On 04/13/2016 10:23 AM, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> >> * Intensive checks (even via rsync) regarding mirror consistency
> > That's good too but the downside is that the mirrors must
> > offer rsync service, either public or at least for the mirror redir
On 2016-04-14 05:02:18, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> Christian Rohmann schrieb am Donnerstag, dem 14. April 2016:
>
>> It might sound like a very non technical argument: But what apart from
>> mirrorbrain which is that powerful, free and field-proven is there as
>> alternative? I would rather work on g
Le Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 10:53:10AM -0400, anarcat a écrit :
>
> Can people show specific bug reports they have filed that describe
> problematic behavior?
Hi all,
On my side of the World, httpredir never worked correctly. Here is an example
showing that despite it detects correclty that I am ba
On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Charles Plessy wrote:
> The reason why I refrained from reporting these bugs further is that I have do
> not have time to help solve them, and I was seeing http.debian.net as a "best
> effort" service.
If you have time to report bugs about the issues you found it
]] Bastian Blank
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 09:02:18AM +, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> > If we want to maintain some form of geographic closeness for it, then
> > pointing it to deb.debian.org seems like something we could try.
>
> What kind of setup is deb.debian.org?
It's ftp.debian.org fronte
]] anarcat
(In the interest of full disclosure: I work for Fastly.)
> On 2016-04-14 05:02:18, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> > If we want to maintain some form of geographic closeness for it, then
> > pointing it to deb.debian.org seems like something we could try.
>
> Note sure what that is. http://
On 04/14/2016 04:49 PM, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> So for all practical matters, only rsync is usable.
Agreed. So there will just be that requirement to provide (restricted)
rsync access for your mirror to be part of httpredr.debian.org.
How else would any other software achieve a completeness ch
Tollef,
since you work at Fastly, could you make the deb.debian.org to have IP
address? :) Currently it's accessible only via Legacy IP although
static.debian.org has records, it get's redirected to
global-nossl.fastly.net that's accessible only via Legacy IP which makes
me very sad.
Cheers
]] Ondřej Surý
Hi,
> since you work at Fastly, could you make the deb.debian.org to have IP
> address? :) Currently it's accessible only via Legacy IP although
> static.debian.org has records, it get's redirected to
> global-nossl.fastly.net that's accessible only via Legacy IP which makes
Hi,
On Mon, Apr 25, 2016, at 14:41, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> ]] Ondřej Surý
>
> Hi,
>
> > since you work at Fastly, could you make the deb.debian.org to have IP
> > address? :) Currently it's accessible only via Legacy IP although
> > static.debian.org has records, it get's redirected to
>
On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 03:07:40PM +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016, at 14:41, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> > > since you work at Fastly, could you make the deb.debian.org to have IP
> > > address? :) Currently it's accessible only via Legacy IP although
> > > static.debian.org has
On Mon, 25 Apr 2016, David Kalnischkies wrote:
> > I'll try in unstable first as this was a LXC guest with jessie.
>
> Be careful that this isn't behind a cache/proxy or such as these usually
> don't bother with SRV and instead rely on the (permanent?) HTTP redirect
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