Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-21 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One example is .config maintainer scripts, some of which are quite complex and worth writing in a higher-level language than shell. This is surely true; Steve Langasek asked if this was a real issue in Ubuntu or merely a potential issue. Granted if it

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-21 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 09:40:55AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: I asked this question earlier, and no one answered. Are there .config scripts being written in python today in Ubuntu? (Hmm, where are the python bindings for debconf, and what ensures

Re: python packaging infrastructure

2006-01-21 Thread Matthias Klose
Steve Langasek writes: On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 10:47:19AM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: Steve Langasek writes: On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 01:06:39PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: the design decision of putting the binary-all python packages in a separate directory into

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-21 Thread Agustin Martin
On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 11:14:19AM -0800, Matt Zimmerman wrote: If you won't acknowledge that, then know that upstream also object to the name python-base for something which has a stripped-down standard library. Both pythol-minimal and python-base sound to something an end user would expect to

Re: python-sqlobject v0.7 package?

2006-01-21 Thread Bob Tanner
Ramon Bastiaans wrote: I was wondering on the status of a version 0.7 package for python-sqlobject. It's current package is still at version 0.6, while version 0.7 has been released in October 2005. I'll confess that I'm partly to blame for the delay. v0.7 needs formencode and Fabio

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-21 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Martin Michlmayr wrote: I definitely agree we should listen to the Python community, Well, my *personal* view is this: I agree that it is highly desirable that the python package is the entire thing, with all batteries included. I'm uncertain what to think about offering systems that only have a

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-21 Thread Joe Wreschnig
On Sat, 2006-01-21 at 01:48 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One example is .config maintainer scripts, some of which are quite complex and worth writing in a higher-level language than shell. This is surely true; Steve Langasek asked if this was

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-21 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 01:48:11AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One example is .config maintainer scripts, some of which are quite complex and worth writing in a higher-level language than shell. This is surely true; Steve Langasek asked if

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-21 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Joe Wreschnig [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There's nothing that prevents us saying we aren't going to support every high-level language and stick to more than one (we already stick to two -- sh and Perl). It just means I'd like to write scripts in X alone isn't a good enough reason. Yes, this

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-21 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Granted if it is a real issue, then why not use perl? Yes, I hate perl too, but really, the argument hey, people like Python too implies that we should have a scheme interpreter, a perl, a python, emacs lisp, and well, everything anyone might want.

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-21 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 02:21:34PM -0600, Joe Wreschnig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Python is the official language of Ubuntu. If we want to merge work they're doing (Anthony Towns mentioned their work on boot speed, for example) it's a good idea to structure our Python like theirs is. This

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-21 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 01:04:25PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Granted if it is a real issue, then why not use perl? Yes, I hate perl too, but really, the argument hey, people like Python too

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-21 Thread Joe Wreschnig
Don't reply to me directly. I should not have to tell you this. On Sat, 2006-01-21 at 13:03 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Python is the official language of Ubuntu. If we want to merge work they're doing (Anthony Towns mentioned their work on boot speed, for example) it's a good idea to

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-21 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 01:04:25PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Granted if it is a real issue, then why not use perl? Yes, I hate perl too, but really, the argument hey, people like Python too implies that we should have a scheme

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-21 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Joe Wreschnig [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We can burn those bridges when we come to them. Right now there's only one such distribution, with one such language, which has already done all the work to strip it down to a small size. Scalability problems do not happen because someone failed to stop

what package name to decide

2006-01-21 Thread Rakotomandimby Mihamina
Hi, I want to Debian package the little shout-python software: http://icecast.org/download.php (in the midle of the page) The upstream tarball is: http://downloads.us.xiph.org/releases/libshout/shout-python-0.2.tar.gz What name should I give to it? - libhsout-python ? - python-shout ? -

Re: [Pkg-icecast-devel] what package name to decide

2006-01-21 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 00:18:57 +0100 Rakotomandimby Mihamina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to Debian package the little shout-python software: http://icecast.org/download.php (in the midle of the page) The upstream tarball is: