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2010-05-08 Thread Serafeim Zanikolas
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Re: Python talks at DebConf

2010-05-08 Thread Arto Jantunen
Jakub Wilk writes: > * Piotr Ożarowski , 2010-05-08, 10:55: >>The only reason I got from Ubuntu for doing transitions outside Debian >>and allowing Debian to do it later (and forcing us to fix after them) >>is... "because you are slow". > > That's quite ironic given the fact that the major inhibi

Re: Python talks at DebConf

2010-05-08 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
On 05/08/2010 10:55 AM, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: > The only reason I got from Ubuntu for doing transitions outside Debian > and allowing Debian to do it later (and forcing us to fix after them) > is... "because you are slow". Of course Ubuntu is faster, they fixed all the python2.6 bug by disabling

Re: Python talks at DebConf

2010-05-08 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi anatoly, On Sat, 08.05.2010 at 07:41:05 +0300, anatoly techtonik wrote: > three are used even though only one is default. But there is no > Python2.6 even in backports on Lenny and I need it for python-expect, > to automate my stuff. This also requires explanation to refer people > when they

Re: Python talks at DebConf

2010-05-08 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Piotr Ożarowski , 2010-05-08, 10:55: The only reason I got from Ubuntu for doing transitions outside Debian and allowing Debian to do it later (and forcing us to fix after them) is... "because you are slow". That's quite ironic given the fact that the major inhibitor of the Python 2.6 transi

Re: virtualenv (was: Python talks at DebConf)

2010-05-08 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi Piotr, On Sat, 08.05.2010 at 14:33:39 +0200, Piotr O??arowski wrote: > [Toni Mueller, 2010-05-08] > > On Sat, 08.05.2010 at 10:55:40 +0200, Piotr O??arowski > > wrote: > > > [anatoly techtonik, 2010-05-08] > > > > Why not use virtualenv for Packaging applications? > > > > > > Every single

virtualenv (was: Python talks at DebConf)

2010-05-08 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Toni Mueller, 2010-05-08] > On Sat, 08.05.2010 at 10:55:40 +0200, Piotr O??arowski > wrote: > > [anatoly techtonik, 2010-05-08] > > > Why not use virtualenv for Packaging applications? > > > > Every single DD understands that shipping two copies of the same file is > > one too many. > > actual

Re: Python talks at DebConf

2010-05-08 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Sat, 08.05.2010 at 10:55:40 +0200, Piotr O??arowski wrote: > [anatoly techtonik, 2010-05-08] > > Why not use virtualenv for Packaging applications? > > Every single DD understands that shipping two copies of the same file is > one too many. actually, I don't. Virtualenv has been a lif

Re: Python talks at DebConf

2010-05-08 Thread Jakub Wilk
* anatoly techtonik , 2010-05-08, 07:16: Cover stdeb (anything else?), the reasons (if any) political and technical, why it (or anything else) can not be used instead unpythonic and unfamiliar make/debhelper stuff. It is not really helper if no one understands how it works, and it is confusing fo

Re: Python talks at DebConf

2010-05-08 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
On 08/05/10 06:41, anatoly techtonik wrote: > 80kb of duplicated > code (even 8Mb) doesn't worth wasted time for troubleshooting in 2010. > It may be a reason for security, but why not just let packages > register their used version in Debian registry and track it there? Because if there's a secur

Re: Python talks at DebConf

2010-05-08 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[anatoly techtonik, 2010-05-08] > Only ideas. > "Using Python toolchain for Python modules/apps in Debian?" > Cover stdeb (anything else?), the reasons (if any) political and > technical, why it (or anything else) can not be used instead > unpythonic and unfamiliar make/debhelper stuff. It is not r