Re: roundup and dh_python2

2012-06-19 Thread Toni Mueller
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 07:54:27AM -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote: > X-P-V only ever refers to Python versions, never Python 3 versions. > There's X-Python3-Version for that. It's safe and correct to remove > the << 2.8. Thank you! Kind regards, --Toni++ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-pyth

Re: roundup and dh_python2

2012-06-18 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 01:09:55PM +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote: > * Toni Mueller , 2012-06-18, 12:55: > >debian/control: > >... > >X-Python-Version: >= 2.5, << 2.8 > > In any case, I'd get rid of the "<< 2.8" part. Surely roundup cannot &

roundup and dh_python2

2012-06-18 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, I'm trying to build the new roundup package with dh_python2. That is the right thing to do, right? I get this: ... lots of output (DH_VERBOSE=1), then: D: dh_python2:584: processing package roundup... D: dh_python2:464: package roundup details = {'requires.txt': set([]), 'shebangs': set([

Re: Future of python2.6 in Debian

2012-06-06 Thread Toni Mueller
On Wed, Jun 06, 2012 at 11:56:36AM +0100, Thomas Kluyver wrote: > On 6 June 2012 11:51, Toni Mueller wrote: > > Since some time, it's Plone > >   4.[01] that requires Python 2.6. Only the still-in-beta Plone 4.2 > >   even works with Python 2.7 (but 2.6 is still s

Re: Future of python2.6 in Debian

2012-06-06 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Wed, Jun 06, 2012 at 10:27:39AM +0900, Arnaud Fontaine wrote: > Toni Mueller writes: > >> +1. Time to retire Python 2.6. From Bernd's reply it sounds like > >> the Zope upgrade needn't block this. > > > > please DON'T! > >

Re: Future of python2.6 in Debian

2012-05-29 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 05:28:08PM +0600, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > You can make and then support a private repo with python2.6 based on the > last Debian release. yes, I can. :/ I actually did something like this to get 2.6 in Lenny. > If you expect official Debian support (including se

Re: Future of python2.6 in Debian

2012-05-29 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 06:43:23PM -0500, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Jan 04, 2012, at 01:58 PM, Luca Falavigna wrote: > >After switching python-defaults to python2.7, I'm not sure we discussed > >whether to keep python2.6 for Wheezy or not. In theory, we should be able to > >get rid of python2

Re: Upstream looks for a proper way to build the packages by itself

2011-06-01 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi Andriy, On Tue, 31.05.2011 at 14:59:25 +0300, Andriy Senkovych wrote: > I'm an uploader of the buildbot and buildbot-slave Debian packages and > a contributor to the buildbot project[1] itself. As you may wonder, > buildbot is a distributed continious integration tool written in > Python. An

Re: Switching to git

2011-03-09 Thread Toni Mueller
Ok, flogging the dead horse once more: On Wed, 09.03.2011 at 11:11:35 -0500, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Mar 09, 2011, at 10:57 AM, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > >in my experience, in contrast to bzr (but that was 1-2 years ago, since > >then those projects switched to GIT), it was also "robustness"

Re: Switching to git

2011-03-07 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi Steve, On Sun, 06.03.2011 at 14:18:40 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > AIUI Scott is talking here about the ease of transitioning an svn user to > bzr because of the similarity of the command model, not about using either > git or bzr to access the current svn repo. I was talking about the rob

Re: Switching to git

2011-03-06 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Sun, 06.03.2011 at 13:33:45 -0500, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Mar 06, 2011, at 05:43 PM, Sandro Tosi wrote: > >Do the 2 VCDs you mentioned have clear advantage that make then > >preferible to git except being Python-based? If so, I think it's a > >quite weak reason. > > Let me turn that ar

Re: Switching to git

2011-03-06 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Sun, 06.03.2011 at 16:01:04 -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote: > With bzr the transition from svn is a little easier than that. Almost any > svn > command you would use, the same command works with bzr, e.g. svn co and bzr > co. I can confirm that bzr-svn works much more smoothly than gi

Re: python transition incomplete

2010-09-27 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Mon, 27.09.2010 at 00:10:35 +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > Yes, and? We will have Python2.5 in Lenny thanks to your own fault of starting > the transition more than half a year too late. Please don't start to create a > mess now. I'm not sure I understand. Maybe s/Lenny/Squeeze/? Kind r

Re: problem installing a package

2010-08-09 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, one more data point: On Mon, 09.08.2010 at 16:38:07 +0200, Toni Mueller wrote: > I'm very hesitant to upload a package that I cannot install locally, > but would really like to see this version in the archive. for kicks, I installed this package on my Testing workstation w/o a

Re: problem installing a package

2010-08-09 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Mon, 09.08.2010 at 16:09:48 +0200, Toni Mueller wrote: > On Mon, 09.08.2010 at 15:48:18 +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote: > > > http://download.oeko.net/sw/misc/funkload/ > > Drop ", << 3.0" from XS-Python-Version. It's not needed and confuses > > pyt

Re: problem installing a package

2010-08-09 Thread Toni Mueller
rol file now reads: Package: funkload Version: 1.13.0-1 Architecture: all Maintainer: Toni Mueller Installed-Size: 860 Depends: python (>= 2.4), python-support (>= 0.90.0), python-pkg-resources, python-webunit (>= 1:1.3.10) Recommends: tcpwatch-httpproxy, gnuplot (>= 4.2), python-docu

Re: problem installing a package

2010-08-09 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi Jakub, On Mon, 09.08.2010 at 14:50:03 +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote: > * Toni Mueller , 2010-08-09, 14:00: > >But trying to actually install the package on a machine running > >Sid, current as of today, fails: > > Could you share your source package with us? Or at least post

problem installing a package

2010-08-09 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, while packaging a new version of funkload and trying to convert the packaging to the new 3.0 format, I have now arrived at a package that should work. At least, superficially inspecting the package's contents does not reveal any errors, as does running lintian (the package is almost lintian-c

Re: Packages whith ???except??? overwriting builtins

2010-08-08 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi Jakub, thanks for taking the effort to tour the code! On Tue, 03.08.2010 at 19:18:27 +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote: > Toni Mueller >roundup should be fixed in 1.4.15-2, just uploaded. Kind regards, --Toni++ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: karaage

2010-07-16 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Fri, 16.07.2010 at 10:03:24 +1000, Brian May wrote: > python path, and then karaage can import then using "import > karaage.conf.settings" for example. Use of dist-utils and cdbs makes > the debian/rules file very simple. > > However, from the point of view of the package, it would be

Re: [Half-OT] Plone and: Re: python 2.6 deb for lenny ?

2010-07-16 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Thu, 15.07.2010 at 16:50:02 -0400, Michael Mulich wrote: > So I'm fairly stuck at this point, but I'm not giving up. I'm going > to package plone no matter how many times it kicks me in the head > (or at least until brain damage ensues). Any one else feel like > joining me? :) I didn't r

Re: python 2.6 deb for lenny ?

2010-06-25 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Wed, 21.04.2010 at 06:46:27 +0200, Fabio Tranchitella wrote: > I'm definitely interested in co-maintaining the backport (and using my own > backport in production already). I'll have a look at the packages from > Toni, and see the difference with my own backport. FWIW, I've just updated

Re: [Half-OT] Plone and: Re: python 2.6 deb for lenny ?

2010-06-23 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Wed, 23.06.2010 at 19:49:04 +0200, Fabio Tranchitella wrote: > I personally use the unified installer with the system-wide python, using > --with-python; if you have system-wide python packages you don't want to > expose to the UI, you can use virtenv. well... that's a near miss. Maybe

[Half-OT] Plone and: Re: python 2.6 deb for lenny ?

2010-06-23 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Wed, 21.04.2010 at 06:46:27 +0200, Fabio Tranchitella wrote: > * 2010-04-21 01:17, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > > I think Fabio (kob...@d.o) also wanted to / is working on a backport, > > might make sense to co-maintain that with him. CCed him :) > > I'm definitely interested in co-maintaining

Re: Python talks at DebConf

2010-05-11 Thread Toni Mueller
On Tue, 11.05.2010 at 00:23:55 +0200, Piotr O??arowski wrote: > [Toni Mueller, 2010-05-10] > > PS: The address "www.griffith.cc" that you mention in your .sig, does > > not resolve, and afair, Berlios is not a good project host. > > To which IP your DNS point

Re: Python talks at DebConf

2010-05-10 Thread Toni Mueller
On Mon, 10.05.2010 at 21:17:40 +0200, Piotr O??arowski wrote: > [Toni Mueller, 2010-05-10] > > problem. It's their choice to deviate from Debian packaging, so why > > shouldn't it be also their problem (not ours) if they break stuff, too? > changes in Python inter

Re: Python talks at DebConf

2010-05-10 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi Piotr, On Mon, 10.05.2010 at 13:23:01 +0200, Piotr O??arowski wrote: > derivatives what to do, though. I'd never complain in public and would > let you do whatever you want (that's derivative's right after all)... if > Ubuntu's decisions would not have so strong impact on us - when I'm than

Re: Python talks at DebConf

2010-05-08 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi anatoly, On Sat, 08.05.2010 at 07:41:05 +0300, anatoly techtonik wrote: > three are used even though only one is default. But there is no > Python2.6 even in backports on Lenny and I need it for python-expect, > to automate my stuff. This also requires explanation to refer people > when they

Re: virtualenv (was: Python talks at DebConf)

2010-05-08 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi Piotr, On Sat, 08.05.2010 at 14:33:39 +0200, Piotr O??arowski wrote: > [Toni Mueller, 2010-05-08] > > On Sat, 08.05.2010 at 10:55:40 +0200, Piotr O??arowski > > wrote: > > > [anatoly techtonik, 2010-05-08] > > > > Why not use virtualenv for Packag

Re: Python talks at DebConf

2010-05-08 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Sat, 08.05.2010 at 10:55:40 +0200, Piotr O??arowski wrote: > [anatoly techtonik, 2010-05-08] > > Why not use virtualenv for Packaging applications? > > Every single DD understands that shipping two copies of the same file is > one too many. actually, I don't. Virtualenv has been a lif

Re: Python2.4 has been removed, now what for Zopistas and Plonistas? [ADDENDUM]

2010-04-27 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, I forgot to ask what'd be the best way to go forward for Plonistas? I really think that there should be some time for Plonistas to upgrade, which the current scheme does not allow for. I see the following options: * Compile everything from source, including Python 2.4 So far, Debian's P

Re: Python2.4 has been removed, now what for Zopistas and Plonistas?

2010-04-27 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Tue, 27.04.2010 at 15:42:45 +0200, Fabio Tranchitella wrote: > The current stable release of Plone requires python2.4 and Zope2.10, which > we cannot support in squeeze. I see no way to really support them, so I'd > prefer to have the packages removed. from my point of view, only Python

Python2.4 has been removed, now what for Zopistas and Plonistas?

2010-04-27 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, unfortunately, I've missed decision to remove Python2.4 from Debian, but the result is that Zope2.10, required for Plone 3.x, will not run on Squeeze anymore, and that the zope2.10 package from sid is now completely uninstallable. Even installing Zope from upstream's source, imho "the" recom

Re: python 2.6 deb for lenny ?

2010-04-01 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Tue, 30.03.2010 at 18:51:48 +0200, Sandro Tosi wrote: > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 17:00, Hermann Lauer > wrote: > > probably this is not the right place, but knows anybody of > > a way to build .deb packacks for python 2.6 on lenny ? > > The usually right move would be to write to the pac

Re: Bug#543689: please upload python2.6 to unstable

2010-01-14 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, I have to make a small correction: On Thu, 14.01.2010 at 10:44:53 +0100, Toni Mueller wrote: > * Newer versions of Zope 2, starting with 2.12, afair require Python > 2.6. Zope 2.12 requires a recent Python 2.5, but Plone 4.0, running on top of Zope 2.12, requires Python 2.6. Sor

Re: Bug#543689: please upload python2.6 to unstable

2010-01-14 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Tue, 12.01.2010 at 13:44:28 +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: > On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:21:34PM +0100, Bastian Venthur wrote: > > The information is there, it is unfortunately just well hidden: > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2009/12/msg00207.html > > Ahh, that's a good catch. I

backporting Python 2.6

2009-11-20 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, while trying to backport Python 2.6 to Lenny, I discovered that it conflicts with python-xml, which is required by several other packages in conjunction with earlier versions of Python. I don't understand why this module has to conflict, though, but rather see this conflict as an artifact of

Zope 2.12 now requires Python 2.6

2009-11-20 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, while I was trying to play with the upcoming Plone 4.0, which is technically vastly different from earlier releases, I found out that recent versions, or at least trunk, of Zope 2.12, appears to absolutely require Python 2.6. Or at least that's the way Andreas Jung, the Zope2 release manager,

Re: [kob...@debian.org: The future of Zope{2, 3} and Plone in Debian and Ubuntu]

2009-10-05 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Sun, 04.10.2009 at 00:00:16 +0200, Jonas Meurer wrote: > thus we need to migrate our debian/rules to build zope2.12 with the help > of buildout, whether we like it or not. unfortunately buildout seems to > be a real pain for building distribution packages. it hardcodes absolute > pathna

Re: python shebang, and other interpreters.

2009-09-21 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Mon, 21.09.2009 at 12:13:46 +0200, Wolodja Wentland wrote: > Hmmm, no. Python applications that need a specific version of Python > should use > > #!/usr/bin/env pythonX.Y > > or > > #!/usr/bin/pythonX.Y > > stating that they need this specific version of Python. how else is

Re: Backports: Django, web.py, Trac - anyone wants them?

2009-09-21 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Mon, 21.09.2009 at 01:54:13 +0200, W. Martin Borgert wrote: > for some reasons I need lenny backports of python-django, I could make use of python-django 1.1 in Lenny. Until I have a backport, I'll need to install it locally. > Is someone interested in doing the backports? :~) I brief

Re: pycentral pkginstall fails to byte-compile

2009-08-26 Thread Toni Mueller
On Wed, 26.08.2009 at 20:18:45 +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > Toni Mueller wrote: > > What's the right way to fix this, please? > No real idea, but I'd give python-support a try. Often it just works then... I hoped to be able to postpone this effort for a while, but yes, p

Re: Will python2.4 be present in Squeeze?

2009-08-26 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Wed, 26.08.2009 at 19:50:42 +0200, Nicolas François wrote: > Is there already a goal to drop python2.4 in Squeeze? I really hope that it isn't! Not that I'm a special fan of Python 2.4, but afaik there's no way to run Zope 2.x, and that includes most prominently Plone, on newer version

pycentral pkginstall fails to byte-compile

2009-08-26 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, while trying to fix my packaging, I found that my recent python-webunit package doesn't install cleanly. dpkg reports that the package be installed ("ii"), but I'd still like to get rid of the disconcerting error messages: # dpkg -i python-webunit_1.3.8-4_all.deb Selecting previously desele