Re: Proposal IRC meeting DPT

2024-07-01 Thread Scott Kitterman
On July 1, 2024 6:08:31 PM UTC, Matthias Klose wrote: >On 29.06.24 20:29, Scott Kitterman wrote: >> On Saturday, June 29, 2024 1:36:41 PM EDT Soren Stoutner wrote: >>> Scott, >>> >>> On Saturday, June 29, 2024 8:58:09 AM MST Scott Kitterman wrote: I would say no. Distutils is going to be

Re: Proposal IRC meeting DPT

2024-07-01 Thread Matthias Klose
On 29.06.24 20:29, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Saturday, June 29, 2024 1:36:41 PM EDT Soren Stoutner wrote: Scott, On Saturday, June 29, 2024 8:58:09 AM MST Scott Kitterman wrote: I would say no. Distutils is going to be with us for quite some time, even though it's no longer part of the standa

Re: Finalize Python 3.12. migration (Re: Proposal IRC meeting DPT)

2024-06-30 Thread Alexandre Detiste
Le lun. 1 juil. 2024 à 00:09, Emmanuel Arias a écrit : > On Sat, Jun 29, 2024 at 10:08:46PM +0200, Alexandre Detiste wrote: > > Here I was precisely asking about the remaining open 46 bugs [0] > > that ask to remove the (mostly stale) "python3-distutils" dependencies. > > > Making these bugs RC no

Re: Finalize Python 3.12. migration (Re: Proposal IRC meeting DPT)

2024-06-30 Thread Emmanuel Arias
On Sat, Jun 29, 2024 at 10:08:46PM +0200, Alexandre Detiste wrote: > Here I was precisely asking about the remaining open 46 bugs [0] > that ask to remove the (mostly stale) "python3-distutils" dependencies. > > python3-distutils has been removed from Ubuntu since 24.04 [1] > and a lot of these 46

Re: Proposal IRC meeting DPT

2024-06-29 Thread Louis-Philippe Véronneau
On 2024-06-29 2 h 29 p.m., Scott Kitterman wrote: According to codesearch.d.n over 600 packages reference disutils in their code. That doesn't mean that they all use it, but it's a lot of packages. FWIW, I wrote a lintian tag to flag these packages: https://udd.debian.org/lintian-tag.cgi?tag=

Re: Finalize Python 3.12. migration (Re: Proposal IRC meeting DPT)

2024-06-29 Thread Alexandre Detiste
Here I was precisely asking about the remaining open 46 bugs [0] that ask to remove the (mostly stale) "python3-distutils" dependencies. python3-distutils has been removed from Ubuntu since 24.04 [1] and a lot of these 46 packages carry there these single line patch: [2] while some Debian packages

Re: Proposal IRC meeting DPT

2024-06-29 Thread Soren Stoutner
Thanks for the followup information. For reference, one of the packages I maintain, electrum, only uses one command from distutils, which compares version numbers to determine if there is a new upstream release. Upstream decided to simply incorporate that distutils file with that one command

Re: Finalize Python 3.12. migration (Re: Proposal IRC meeting DPT)

2024-06-29 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2024-06-29 19:42:13 +0200 (+0200), Carsten Schoenert wrote: [...] > We could manage a migration to another Python build system > "somehow", but then I think the time until the freeze is to short > to fix all these packages if we wanted to drop distutils, beside > the other work that is needed to

Re: Proposal IRC meeting DPT

2024-06-29 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday, June 29, 2024 1:36:41 PM EDT Soren Stoutner wrote: > Scott, > > On Saturday, June 29, 2024 8:58:09 AM MST Scott Kitterman wrote: > > I would say no. Distutils is going to be with us for quite some time, > > even > > though it's no longer part of the standard distribution. > > > > Sc

Finalize Python 3.12. migration (Re: Proposal IRC meeting DPT)

2024-06-29 Thread Carsten Schoenert
Am 29.06.24 um 19:36 schrieb Soren Stoutner: Scott, On Saturday, June 29, 2024 8:58:09 AM MST Scott Kitterman wrote: I would say no. Distutils is going to be with us for quite some time, even though it's no longer part of the standard distribution. Scott K Can you please elaborate on this s

Re: Proposal IRC meeting DPT

2024-06-29 Thread Soren Stoutner
Scott, On Saturday, June 29, 2024 8:58:09 AM MST Scott Kitterman wrote: > I would say no. Distutils is going to be with us for quite some time, even > though it's no longer part of the standard distribution. > > Scott K Can you please elaborate on this some more? As a maintainer of a couple of

Re: Proposal IRC meeting DPT

2024-06-29 Thread Scott Kitterman
I would say no. Distutils is going to be with us for quite some time, even though it's no longer part of the standard distribution. Scott K On June 29, 2024 2:07:56 PM UTC, Alexandre Detiste wrote: >Hi, > >Should the severity of the distutils removal bugs be bumped now ? >Example such bug: ht

Re: Proposal IRC meeting DPT

2024-06-29 Thread Alexandre Detiste
Hi, Should the severity of the distutils removal bugs be bumped now ? Example such bug: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1065939 Greetings Le sam. 29 juin 2024 à 10:46, Matthias Klose a écrit : > binNMUs are now done, next thing is to get python3-defaults migrating, > filing b

Re: Proposal IRC meeting DPT

2024-06-29 Thread Matthias Klose
On 24.06.24 10:42, Matthias Klose wrote: On 22.06.24 00:06, Emmanuel Arias wrote: Hi team, As the Louis-Philippe and Andreas response to my last mail [0] I would like to propose a (regular?) IRC meeting to try to organize the work inside the team. I would like to propose an IRC meeting on 5 Jul

Re: Proposal IRC meeting DPT

2024-06-24 Thread Matthias Klose
On 22.06.24 00:06, Emmanuel Arias wrote: Hi team, As the Louis-Philippe and Andreas response to my last mail [0] I would like to propose a (regular?) IRC meeting to try to organize the work inside the team. I would like to propose an IRC meeting on 5 July, perhaps a good time could be around 12P

Re: Proposal IRC meeting DPT

2024-06-21 Thread Mechtilde
Time frame is ok for me Am 22.06.24 um 03:07 schrieb Emmanuel Arias: Hi, Thanks for your reply. Yes, day and time it's just a proposal. Cheers, Emmanuel On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 10:16:51PM +, weepingclown wrote: Hi, I do support the idea of an IRC meeting. although the availability of oth

Re: Proposal IRC meeting DPT

2024-06-21 Thread Emmanuel Arias
Hi, Thanks for your reply. Yes, day and time it's just a proposal. Cheers, Emmanuel On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 10:16:51PM +, weepingclown wrote: > Hi, > > I do support the idea of an IRC meeting. although the availability of others > (maybe even myself) is something I can't comment on. But I s

Re: Proposal IRC meeting DPT

2024-06-21 Thread weepingclown
Hi, I do support the idea of an IRC meeting. although the availability of others (maybe even myself) is something I can't comment on. But I still think trying this out, at the very least, would be nice. Hopefully this can be a catalyst for finishing up the 3.12 migration. 3.13 migration is prob

Proposal IRC meeting DPT

2024-06-21 Thread Emmanuel Arias
Hi team, As the Louis-Philippe and Andreas response to my last mail [0] I would like to propose a (regular?) IRC meeting to try to organize the work inside the team. I would like to propose an IRC meeting on 5 July, perhaps a good time could be around 12PM UTC and 4PM UTC? That date and time work